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Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on September 08, 2025, 05:24:24 am
Just your name and address should be redacted.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on September 07, 2025, 10:49:30 pm
Do I need to hide any details when posting it ?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on September 07, 2025, 08:54:59 pm
Please post a copy of the N279 Notice of Discontinuance.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on September 07, 2025, 08:00:55 pm
Just a quick update I received a letter saying they will be withdrawing the claim and closing the file . Thank you so much for your help
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on May 30, 2025, 01:24:28 am
Thank you
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: DWMB2 on May 29, 2025, 04:52:50 pm
Now merged.
Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: Jiya on May 29, 2025, 04:51:25 pm
I wasn't aware I did this .. I thought it was all on the same thread . May have been a mistake . Sorry
Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: b789 on May 22, 2025, 02:25:27 am
Why on earth are you starting a new thread each time you have something to tell us? Please keep everything to a single thread!!
Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: b789 on May 22, 2025, 02:24:06 am
Normal and as expected. Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
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• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: Jiya on May 21, 2025, 06:17:17 pm
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Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
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Title: Re: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: Jiya on May 21, 2025, 06:12:32 pm
Here is the letter and questionnaire

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Title: Received a response from DCB legal that client parking eye wants to proceed
Post by: Jiya on May 21, 2025, 06:07:20 pm
Hi,

So I filed a defence using a template provided here. It was for a parking charge from parking eye through their client DCB legal. Cbnc said they have 33 days to respond. The 33 days were up on Saturday 17th may so I called on Monday and they informed me that they have not heard anything and that the case should be stayed.
 However there was a backlog so In the mean time there still could still possibly some correspondence.
I received this letter today which was posted on 15th may. I want to know should I think anything of it and respond .. or is it just another threat and final attempt ?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on May 07, 2025, 03:46:15 pm
Hi there,
I was curious as to checking the progress of the claim so decided to login to the moneyclaims website but it doesn't recognise my claim number anymore. Any idea why that is please?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 23, 2025, 12:41:18 pm
I would take your word  and not risk a bet 🤣 I have high hopes that you're right.. I believe that myself too tbh but needed that reassurance.. Thank you 😌
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on April 23, 2025, 12:14:44 pm
If you're willing to take the bet, I'll offer £100 that they will never let this go as far as a hearing.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 23, 2025, 11:34:35 am
Thank you that sounds reassuring as I can't handle the stress of it all. Hopefully it won't go further. I will update on here and again I greatly appriciate your help. Thank you so much
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: DWMB2 on April 23, 2025, 11:17:14 am
Of the cases that have come to this forum involving DCB Legal, I think we've seen one or two (total) where the hearing fee has actually been paid. The vast majority end with discontinuation. Even if they did pay the fee, you'd have a decent chance of winning any subsequent hearing.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 23, 2025, 11:07:49 am
I know that it can go either way but how likely is it that they will proceed to court. Do you have an idea of this?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on April 23, 2025, 10:58:58 am
That letter tells you what to expect.

When you receive the letter that says that their client intends to proceed, the usually include a copy of their N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ). Here is the advice we give:

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 23, 2025, 10:14:16 am
Hi I received this letter today. What should I expect now? Any advice will be appriciate. Thanks

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Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 02, 2025, 11:22:52 am
Thank you
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on April 02, 2025, 10:49:40 am
You do not use any of the forms that came with the N1SDT Claim Form.

The defence should be combined with the draft order and the two transcripts into a single PDF document with the following order for the documents:

1. Defence (2 pages)
2. Draft order (1 page)
3. Both transcripts (8 pages in total)

You can use a free online pdf assistant such as this: https://www.pdf2go.com
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 02, 2025, 07:13:53 am
Sorry, can I just clarify, the draft order is the fist of three documents you have provided to attach? And then there's 2 transcripts to attach. Is there any other relevant document or form that needs to be completed which was sent with the N1STD or related to sending a defence?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 02, 2025, 06:39:31 am
I will do this today. Thank you so much. Really appriciate your help.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on April 01, 2025, 06:33:49 pm
If you send an email to the claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk, you should get an immediate auto response email.

In due course the claimants will acknowledge receipt of your claim. It is sent to them by the CNBC.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 01, 2025, 05:14:37 pm
Would I get an automated reply to confirm they have received this as if I am submitting the defence I don't think think il need extra time I can do it right away. So I need to do anything else and will the claimant be contacting me?
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: b789 on April 01, 2025, 12:23:54 pm
If ParkingEye are using DCB Legal instead of their own internal legal department to issue a claim you know that they have very little faith that their claim stands a chance.

With an issue date of 26th March, you have until 4pm on Monday 14th April to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 28th April to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit the claimant's name (as it appears on the claim form), your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send all the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order' and then the 2 'transcripts') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of ParkingEye Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

ParkingEye Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zc23txk7poctyyxiv2ytx/Strikeout-order-1-a-v2.1.pdf?rlkey=pancly3z6zwqt2cra5rvvh3ls&st=nq7a58tz&dl=0)

CEL v Chan Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nb9ypbecuurpmln00dily/CELvChan-appeal-transcript.pdf?rlkey=7mpuvpmpe45s2zbhch21om1ez&st=i8dnbod3&dl=0)

CPMS v Akande Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y631olc61z1slr6xfrdsk/CPM-v-AKANDE.pdf?rlkey=kltpojedcxiwarxr0sdfyjo05&st=qi4lv3fv&dl=0)

If you want an editable MS Word file with everything in a single document which you can then save/export as a single PDF file when ready to send, use this:

MS Word .docx file for defence [CPR 16.4(1)(a)] (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/krubcbnf27bsis66pq4yg/Short-defence-strikeout-CPR16.4-1-a-3.docx?rlkey=z87f3h8is3hgnp7sqr8plsz99&st=ldawlubu&dl=0)
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 01, 2025, 12:11:32 pm
I didn't keep any of the original letters. I briefly recall they just had picture of the vehicle entering and exiting. Thank you for your help
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: jfollows on April 01, 2025, 11:48:48 am
Obviously bad advice, but the good news is that claims by DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye will be discontinued if you follow the process, submit a defence, and then wait.
Can you post up any of the original letters you ignored here? Don’t obscure any dates if you do, just your personal details.
Title: Re: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye l
Post by: Jiya on April 01, 2025, 11:41:30 am
Sorry the signage was *obstructed with other vehicles and the rain was so heavy anything was hardly visible. When the driver entered morrisons daily there were no signs at the entrance or around the shop. He waited in the vehicle for the rain to calm down a little as visibility was so poor.
Title: N1SDT sent for PCN issued in November 2023 HM courts and Tribunals service from DCB Legal on behalf of Parking Eye ltd
Post by: Jiya on April 01, 2025, 11:38:14 am
I received this yesterday. I received a few letters before which I ignored. I was not the driver. It was a local shop that changed to morrisons and on the day of the incident it was heavily raining the driver drove into the car park and was not aware of any changes the signage were not very visible as they were instructed with other parked vehicles (there are only two signs in the car park) not sure as it has been so long but on visiting the car park again I'm pretty sure there was only one sign at the time which was not too clear. I visited again yesterday and saw they had 2 signs and one at the entrance.
I've not responded to anything previously and because I was not the driver I thought they will eventually stop sending me letters. I was acting on advice by someone. Can you please help.
 I will be sending AoS today.

Also on the moneyclaim website there is no where I can login with the password they have given me. I have been looking and can't find anywhere to access it.

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