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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: whyRecon on March 31, 2025, 03:20:06 pm
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Ah, yes, in which case, they threw in the towel to save themselves some money. Well done!
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On the POPLA system it never got past the issuer evidence, so I'm assuming they knew they wouldn't win and avoided the bother?
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Not sure is any of the other stuff helped
The assessor should have set out the grounds upon which they upheld your appeal.
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I realise this reply is a little late, but wanted to share the notice was cancelled after I appealed with POPLA!
I gave evidence on serveral front, including the Airport Bylaws, lack of signage both in and around the McDonalds requiring validation, and a few other bits. Not sure is any of the other stuff helped, but in any case thank you for you help in this thread and hopefully anyone else having to deal with this location can have the same result =]
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Thank you for the advice and appeal reccomendation, I have submitted the appeal and will respond when I have had an update =]
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Appeal with the following:
I am the registered keeper. MET cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, MET will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Gatwick Airport is not 'relevant land'.
If Gatwick Airport wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Airport Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because MET is not the Airport owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for MET's own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and NCP has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. MET have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Don't try to overthink this. THw initial appeal will be rejected but that will get you a POPLA code where you can go into detail in an appeal.
If you want to understand more, simply to a form search for "Gatwick" and you'll have a better idea of why you will not be paying a penny to MET if you follow our advice.
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I have recieved a "Notice to Keeper" letter from MET Parking Services for "Failure to Validate".
To my knowledge the driver and passenger ordered food, and upon pickup were not given the opportunity to validate thier ticket.
When leaving the carpark they entered the ticket several times into the machine and after a time the gate opened.
(A copy of the passengers bank statement showing a purchase was made exists, as a reciept was not held onto)
I saw in a previous post about this carpark that people have had the notice dropped, it makes mention of several potential reasons as to why they dropped the claim (
My question is what are peoples reccomendation, as the vehicle keeper should I put forward an appeal with MET using this post as a guide? (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/met-parking-services-gatwick-mcdonalds/msg24793/#msg24793)
Thank you for any and all help! (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji172.png)
General Parking Signage (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/McDonald's/@51.1585885,-0.1555265,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipM9jX-9VPyh6fheZdpblSH_zN8HaaHaivF_bPpb!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipM9jX-9VPyh6fheZdpblSH_zN8HaaHaivF_bPpb%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i2560!8i1920!4m9!3m8!1s0x4875f00ce4c242d5:0xdaca624380c15453!8m2!3d51.1585885!4d-0.1555265!10e5!14m1!1BCgIgAQ!16s%2Fg%2F1tn0586g?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMyNS4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjQwSAFQAw%3D%3D)
"Pressing the button may lead to a charge" Signage (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/McDonald's/@51.1585885,-0.1555265,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipMPy8c9jxiCR_cfuWvsG7vVUHO8vdt316D-qicz!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipMPy8c9jxiCR_cfuWvsG7vVUHO8vdt316D-qicz%3Dw203-h114-k-no!7i4160!8i2340!4m9!3m8!1s0x4875f00ce4c242d5:0xdaca624380c15453!8m2!3d51.1585885!4d-0.1555265!10e5!14m1!1BCgIgAQ!16s%2Fg%2F1tn0586g?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDMyNS4xIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExNjQwSAFQAw%3D%3D)
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