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General discussion => News / Press Articles => Topic started by: Southpaw82 on March 26, 2025, 01:42:46 pm

Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: andy_foster on April 07, 2025, 04:09:03 pm
*Whoosh" - the issue is p*ss-poor "journalism.

"Read More" implies that it is more about the same case, and the headline quoted is within the article originally linked, although it concerns a different case. That however is not the point at issue.

The point is that the Daily Fail claimed that a driver had been "ordered" to do a road safety course. I forget whether I was responding to DWMB2's post regarding the same moronic lie, or whether I picked up on it on my own and our posts simply crossed, but to the extent that the claim is not simply meaningless gibberish, i.e. to the extent that an offender can meaningfully be "ordered" to complete some form of restitutional justice, it must have been ordered by a court upon conviction. Obviously, he was not ordered by a court to complete the course, as he was not "ordered" to do it at all. He was merely offered it as an out of court disposal.
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: dannyno on April 07, 2025, 12:31:32 pm
That would be the bit that says "Read More Driver who taunted speed camera with sign saying 'No photographs please' as he flicked V-sign is ordered to so road safety course"

Generally, we are here to offer legal advice, rather than teach posters how to read. In general, text based online forums are not ideally suited for such a task, regardless of their overall purpose.

Um, could I gently point out that the "read more" article relates to a different case to the "grandfather of 14" who blocked a speed camera van, and if you actually do the "read more" bit, you can see that it wasn't a court which ordered the driver with the "no photographs please" sign in that case to do a road safety course.  Instead, as we'd expect, they were offered it by the police to avoid penalty points.

The "grandfather of 14" who blocked a speed camera van was not ordered by the court to do a road safety course, but given 120 hours community service and ordered to pay costs and compensation.
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: andy_foster on April 06, 2025, 12:12:12 pm
That would be the bit that says "Read More Driver who taunted speed camera with sign saying 'No photographs please' as he flicked V-sign is ordered to so road safety course"

Generally, we are here to offer legal advice, rather than teach posters how to read. In general, text based online forums are not ideally suited for such a task, regardless of their overall purpose.
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: baroudeur on April 06, 2025, 11:59:57 am
And we, being f*cking idiots, have been telling posters that courts can't sentence drivers to a course.

Where, in the link, is there a reference to a Court imposing the course?   
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: andy_foster on March 27, 2025, 10:02:17 am
And we, being f*cking idiots, have been telling posters that courts can't sentence drivers to a course.
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: DWMB2 on March 27, 2025, 09:41:51 am
This related article that was advertised within the shared one made me chuckle: Driver who taunted speed camera with sign saying 'No photographs please' as he flicked V-sign is ordered to do road safety course (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13222937/Driver-taunted-speed-camera-road-safety-course.html)
Title: Re: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: disgruntchelt on March 27, 2025, 09:16:54 am
Idiot. All he had to say was to the scammer man was he had parked up to take his mandated break and couldn’t move now by law until his break was over.  If he said it ever so politely with a knowing smile and he would have been fine.
Title: Man convicted of obstructing speed camera van
Post by: Southpaw82 on March 26, 2025, 01:42:46 pm
Daily Mail  (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14538145/Grandfather-blocked-speed-camera.html)

Convicted of obstructing an accredited person and a public order offence.