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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: pepipoo_is_gone on March 18, 2025, 09:17:02 pm

Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: stamfordman on March 18, 2025, 09:55:27 pm
The code is 232, where the last 2 means goods loading bay, so the PCN does go some way to describing the contravention. Without the suffix there have been cases won as the wording doesn't say what exactly you did wrong.
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: Incandescent on March 18, 2025, 09:53:26 pm
Bay is for goods vehicle loading only, and with no times or days, applies 24x7. So why did you parkethere ? Did you just chance your arm a CEO wouldn't turn up, or is there something more serious we could maybe use.
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: pepipoo_is_gone on March 18, 2025, 09:47:05 pm
Thank you for pointing me to that! Here are full details:

Council: Brent
Contravention: 232 (Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle)
Location: Lakeside Drive Loading Bay (https://maps.app.goo.gl/hwmKzNDc4ET6wGS97)

[PCN LINK (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VCsKtaUZlCiPZAn3ZHuUSjJy8Plpejhs/view?usp=drive_link)]
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: stamfordman on March 18, 2025, 09:38:16 pm
If you want help read this.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: pepipoo_is_gone on March 18, 2025, 09:35:35 pm
The photo timestamp is 1 minute after the PCN issue... sounds like that's how its meant to be?
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: disgruntchelt on March 18, 2025, 09:27:14 pm
 Only if the timestamp of the photo is before the pcn issue time.  It’s more likely the evidence is to show the pcn was actually served.
Title: Re: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: MrChips on March 18, 2025, 09:26:26 pm
What do you mean by 'already'?

Post up the PCN please.
Title: Evidence picture shows car with PCN already in the windshield?!
Post by: pepipoo_is_gone on March 18, 2025, 09:17:02 pm
Have a ground 23 (Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle) PCN, where the evidence images on the council website show the car with the yellow ticket already on the windshield. Is this a ground that could be used to dispute the ticket? Everything else about the PCN looks fine. Many thanks!