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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: RegKeeper on March 14, 2025, 07:19:18 pm

Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 23, 2025, 05:54:43 pm
In the response there is a complaint number in the format 12345678-01PP, but on first look I thought that was just their internal complaint number not the BPA complaint number that we asked for, they didn't make it clear.

I have no idea what that number refers to. Try using it and see what the response is.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 23, 2025, 05:27:11 pm
In the response there is a complaint number in the format 12345678-01PP, but on first look I thought that was just their internal complaint number not the BPA complaint number that we asked for, they didn't make it clear.


So do I still send the response to them? Considering that they have told me I exhausted their complaints procedure and they did supply a complaint number?

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You have now exhausted our internal company complaints procedure. If you remain unsatisfied by our response you may contact the British Parking Association (BPA) for further escalation for complaints pertaining to parking enforcement.


I edited out those parts:


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Dear Sir/Madam,

Your response dated [insert date] fails to discharge your obligation under the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP).

Under Section 11.2, you were required to treat my formal complaint—because it relates to a parking charge—as an appeal. You have failed to properly consider the points raised, provided no meaningful response to the detailed issues of Keeper liability under PoFA, and crucially, have failed to issue a POPLA code, which is required if you reject an appeal.

If you continue to fail in your duties under the Code of Practice, I will report this separately as non-compliance. For the avoidance of doubt, I am also submitting a formal complaint to the DVLA regarding your misuse of keeper data and your failure to engage properly with the data subject. That complaint will proceed regardless of the outcome of your internal processes.

I expect your full response and the required reference number within 7 days.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]

And to the DVLA

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I wish to raise a formal complaint regarding Premier Park Ltd and their breach of the Keeper at Date of Event (KADOE) contract.

Premier Park obtained my keeper data from the DVLA under the terms of the KADOE contract, which requires full compliance with the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). However, they have failed to comply with key requirements of that Code.

Specifically, I submitted a formal complaint under Section 11.2 of the PPSCoP, which requires a complaint relating to a parking charge to be treated as an appeal. Premier Park failed to consider the appeal on its merits and did not issue a POPLA code, as they are required to do if rejecting an appeal.

This failure amount to breaches of the PPSCoP and therefore a breach of the KADOE contract. I request that the DVLA investigates this matter and takes appropriate enforcement or sanction action against Premier Park Ltd.

PCN Reference: [Insert PCN Reference]
Vehicle Registration Number: [Insert VRM]
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 23, 2025, 12:24:01 am
Do you have a complaint reference number? I have no idea because you only showed us the content of their rejection. If you do have a complaint reference number then edit accordingly.

With reference to the “invitation” to pay the charge, where does it say anywhere in the legislation that any obligations are inferred? The legislation clearly states thatnthe notice MUST invite the Keeper to pay the charge.

The same way that there can be no inference that the Keeper, on the balance of probabilities, must also be the driver, the notice cannot simply infer that the recipient is invited to pay it. The notice does not infer that and neither does it explicitly invite the Keeper to pay it. It does say that the driver is liable for the charge, but that is not what PoFA 9(2)(e)(i) requires.

Plenty of other operators manage to have an explicit invitation for the Keeper to pay the charge. They have had since 2012 to try and get this right. Some simply think that because they mention PoFA, they are covered. However, PoFA requires that ALL the conditions are complied with. Just like pregnancy, you either are or you aren’t. Being partially or even mostly PoFA compliant is NOT fully PoFA compliant.

I have discussed this point many times with a District Judge and after careful explanation of my point, as above, he agreed that if it was put to him like that, he would agree that the notice is not fully compliant with all the requirements of the act. That is a fact.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 22, 2025, 10:26:33 pm
Thanks for the reply.

Just want to check with you. When it says:

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That section requires operators to engage with complaints in a structured and transparent way, and where the complaint cannot be resolved, to confirm that the internal complaints process has been exhausted and issue a complaint reference number for escalation to the BPA.

and in the complaint to the DVLA

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They also failed to deal with the complaint as a complaint under Section 11.1, and have refused to confirm that their internal complaints procedure has been exhausted or to issue a BPA complaint reference number, thereby obstructing escalation.

Haven't they done that by this line in their complaint rebuttal?

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You have now exhausted our internal company complaints procedure. If you remain unsatisfied by our response you may contact the British Parking Association (BPA) for further escalation for complaints pertaining to parking enforcement.

Also would a complaint reference number look like this: 12345678-01PP?


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And just so I understand when it says:
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9(2)(e)(i) breach – failing to invite the Keeper to pay, instead stating the driver is liable.

We are attacking their failure to 'invite' the keeper to pay and just said that the keeper is liable. Instead of an direct invitation to pay it was information and who is liable, with the implied threat. And so the whole section is invalidated

In the NtK one of the first lines is "Please pay the reduced charge of £60.00 now."
And in the 'final reminder' it says "Pay your charge in full"

Could they claim these were invitations?

I looked through Pofa2012 and it does say: "the creditor will (if all the applicable conditions under this Schedule are met) have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that amount as remains unpaid"

Is that actually strong enough to invalidate the whole section? Even if it were to go to court? Do they have to directly say something like: "We now invite you, the keeper, to pay the outstand charge" under this regulation?
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 22, 2025, 07:16:32 pm
Premier Park’s response attempts to sidestep the central points of both your formal complaint and appeal, in clear breach of their obligations under the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). Here's a breakdown of the key failings in their response, and suggested next steps:

Key Failings in Premier Park’s Response

1. Failure to Treat the Complaint as an Appeal – PPSCoP Section 11.2 Breach

Your email was explicitly framed as a formal complaint concerning a PCN, and thus must be treated as an appeal under PPSCoP 11.2, which states:

“If a complaint relates to a specific parking charge, then the complaint must be considered to be an appeal and dealt with under the appeals procedure.”

Premier Park has not treated it as such. Their response failed to consider or refute the PoFA breaches raised and did not issue a POPLA code. This is a direct breach of the PPSCoP.

2. Misstatement of Keeper Liability under PoFA 2012

Premier Park insists that the Keeper is liable but ignores your detailed challenge to the NtK’s PoFA compliance, including:

• 9(2)(d) and 4(5) breach – claiming the charge may increase beyond £100.
• 9(2)(e)(i) breach – failing to invite the Keeper to pay, instead stating the driver is liable.
• These defects invalidate the transfer of liability to the Keeper.

Their response fails to address these points entirely, rendering their assertion of Keeper liability legally unsound.

3. Refusal to Issue POPLA Code on Invalid Grounds

Their justification for refusing a POPLA code—alleging that your appeal was late and not made via the “correct method”—is invalid in this context. PPSCoP 11.2 overrides standard appeal timeframes when a complaint about a PCN is made.

Once you submitted your formal complaint, they were required to consider it as an appeal regardless of when it was received, and to issue a POPLA code if rejected.

4. Misuse of DRP (Debt Recovery Plus) to Bypass Accountability

Passing the case to DRP does not relieve Premier Park of their responsibilities under the PPSCoP. The complaints process, including escalation to POPLA, remains Premier Park’s obligation. Referring you to a debt collector instead is a tactic often used to shut down challenges improperly.

For now, respond to that letter with the following:

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Subject: Re: PCN [Insert Reference] – Failure to Address Formal Complaint and Appeal (PPSCoP Sections 11.2 and 11.1)

Dear Sir/Madam,

Your response dated [insert date] fails to discharge your obligations under the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) in two respects.

Firstly, under Section 11.2, you were required to treat my formal complaint—because it relates to a parking charge—as an appeal. You have failed to properly consider the points raised, provided no meaningful response to the detailed issues of Keeper liability under PoFA, and crucially, have failed to issue a POPLA code, which is required if you reject an appeal.

Secondly, you were also obliged to address the matter as a formal complaint in its own right, under Section 11.1 of the PPSCoP. That section requires operators to engage with complaints in a structured and transparent way, and where the complaint cannot be resolved, to confirm that the internal complaints process has been exhausted and issue a complaint reference number for escalation to the BPA.

You have done neither.

I now require you to:

1. Confirm that my formal complaint has been fully considered and exhausted;
2. Provide a complaint reference number so that I may escalate the matter accordingly.

If you continue to fail in your duties under the Code of Practice, I will report this separately as non-compliance. For the avoidance of doubt, I am also submitting a formal complaint to the DVLA regarding your misuse of keeper data and your failure to engage properly with the data subject. That complaint will proceed regardless of the outcome of your internal processes.

I expect your full response and the required reference number within 7 days.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]

You should also submit the following to the DVLA here: https://contact.dvla.gov.uk/complaints

Select the "Making a complaint or compliment about the Vehicles service you have received" option.

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I wish to raise a formal complaint regarding Premier Park Ltd and their breach of the Keeper at Date of Event (KADOE) contract.

Premier Park obtained my keeper data from the DVLA under the terms of the KADOE contract, which requires full compliance with the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). However, they have failed to comply with key requirements of that Code.

Specifically, I submitted a formal complaint under Section 11.2 of the PPSCoP, which requires a complaint relating to a parking charge to be treated as an appeal. Premier Park failed to consider the appeal on its merits and did not issue a POPLA code, as they are required to do if rejecting an appeal. They also failed to deal with the complaint as a complaint under Section 11.1, and have refused to confirm that their internal complaints procedure has been exhausted or to issue a BPA complaint reference number, thereby obstructing escalation.

These failures amount to breaches of the PPSCoP and therefore a breach of the KADOE contract. I request that the DVLA investigates this matter and takes appropriate enforcement or sanction action against Premier Park Ltd.

PCN Reference: [Insert PCN Reference]
Vehicle Registration Number: [Insert VRM]
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 22, 2025, 06:36:01 pm
Update!

This is the reply I received to the complaint I made:

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Dear ****

We write in response to your email dated 16th March 2025.

The PCN was issued because the vehicle was at ***Address***  for 2 hours and 22 minutes on the 14th January 2025 for ‘Failure to Pay for the Duration of Stay’.

This car park is monitored by Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR) cameras which capture time and date stamped images of vehicles entering and exiting the car park to measure how long they remain on site.

The vehicle remained on site for 2 hours and 22 minutes, we can confirm we received payment for 2 hours however, as the vehicle remained on site for an additional 22 minutes without further payment, a PCN was issued.  

On the reverse of the PCN you received, there is a ‘useful information’ section that provides further information on Appeals and or Enquiries. This provides the relevant information regarding the appeals process. ‘All appeals must be submitted within 28 days (beginning with the day after that on which this notice is given)’, as we had not received an appeal in time and via the correct methods, we are unable to supply you with a POPLA code.

The PCN was issued on the 17th January 2025, as no payment or correspondence was received, a reminder letter was sent on 3rd February 2025. Both letters were sent to the same address provided to us by the DVLA. We cannot be held liable for your not having received these. It is the responsibility of the Registered keeper to ensure their address is correct and up to date with the DVLA.

After the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which this notice is given - the amount of the unpaid parking charge specified in this notice has not been paid in full, and we do not know both the name and current address of the driver, under paragraph 9(2)(f) of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 we will have the right to recover from the keeper so much of that parking charge amount as remains unpaid. If we are required to take further action to recover this Parking Charge the amount due may increase to up to £170.00.

Pursuant to the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, we are entitled to hold the Registered Keeper of a Vehicle liable for any Parking Charges which result from a breach of contract should the Registered Keeper be unable and/or declined to provide the full name and full serviceable address of the Driver of the Vehicle on the contravention date. This information has not been provided, and consequently, you as the Registered Keeper are the liable party in relation to the above Parking Charge Notice.

As set out above, our position remains that the Parking Charge Notice was issued correctly. 

Please be advised, that we have instructed Debt Recovery Plus Limited to recover the outstanding balance of the Parking Charge Notice and they continue to have conduct in this matter. Accordingly, all further correspondence concerning the Parking Charge Notice and settlement of the same will need to be sent directly to them and not ourselves. 

We thank you for contacting us and trust the above response addresses your queries. Please note, any further correspondence received from you will be logged but may not be responded to.

You have now exhausted our internal company complaints procedure. If you remain unsatisfied by our response you may contact the British Parking Association (BPA) for further escalation for complaints pertaining to parking enforcement.

You will be required to upload a copy of this response as part of your evidence submission to the BPA. If this is not provided, the BPA will be unable to consider your complaint.

Further information can be found by visiting the BPA’s AOS Complaints Portal can be found by visiting https://www.britishparking.co.uk/Contact-Us-Public

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So they didn't give me a POPLA code and conveniently avoided addressing any of the actual points in the complaint ::)
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 16, 2025, 08:28:44 pm
DOn't expect these greedy scammers to give up so easily. Even if it goes t POPLA, there is no guarantees. POPLA is funded by the very companies you are appealing agent. The easiest way to will is if they try to make a claim. They usually hope that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who will give in a pay up once they threaten litigation, out of ignorance and fear.


We a quite a way off the for now. Wait and see what happens next. I suggest a formal complaint to the DVLA will be next, depending on their response to the formal complaint.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 16, 2025, 07:41:50 pm
Yeah makes sense.

I have received a reply from the pub the car park is attached to:

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I m afraid we don't actually own the car park its owned by Premier park you will have to contact them. Sadly we hold no say over them.

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So I guess that rules out that out.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: John Glacier on March 16, 2025, 07:24:17 pm
They don't accept appeals. No money in that.

They will send a POPLA code and you can try your luck there.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 16, 2025, 06:48:02 pm
Sent! Amazing write up thanks for your time and effort!

Are we expecting them to reject this appeal and then we get a POPLA code or is there a possibility they could give up at this stage?
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 16, 2025, 01:12:30 pm
If you send a formal complaint they are required to consider it as an appeal according to the PPSCoP section 11.2.

Send the following to complaints@premierpark.co.uk and CC in yourself:

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Subject: Formal Complaint & Appeal Under PPSCoP Section 11.2 – Incorrect Service of PCN & Keeper Liability Dispute

PCN Reference: [PCN Reference]

Dear Premier Park,

I am submitting a formal complaint under Section 11.2 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP)regarding the procedural handling of Parking Charge Notice [PCN Reference]. As this complaint concerns a parking charge, you are required to consider it as an appeal and, if rejected, issue a POPLA code so that I can escalate the matter.

1. Formal Complaint – NtK Not Correctly Served

The Notice to Keeper (NtK) was originally sent to an incorrect address for service because, at the time, my V5C had not yet been updated. As a result, the NtK was not "given" to me in accordance with Paragraph 9(6) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA) within the required timeframe.

By the time I received the NtK, it was too late to appeal within your standard deadlines. Upon receipt, I immediately served a Data Rectification Notice (DRN) to update my address, which you have since acknowledged.

Under PPSCoP Section 11.2, you must treat this formal complaint as an appeal and respond accordingly.

2. Appeal – No Keeper Liability Under PoFA

Even if the NtK had been properly served, it fails to meet the strict requirements of PoFA, meaning I cannot be held liable as the Keeper.

(a) Misrepresentation of the Amount Recoverable (PoFA 4(5))

The NtK states:

"If we are required to take further action to recover the Parking Charge, the amount due may increase up to £170."

This contradicts PoFA Paragraph 4(5), which states:

"The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 9(2)(d)."

-PoFA strictly limits the amount recoverable from the Keeper to the sum stated in the NtK, which is £100.
-Stating that the charge may increase misrepresents the Keeper’s liability and renders the NtK non-compliant.

This fact is already fully established in persuasive appellate case law in Excel v Wilkinson (2022), where the court ruled that inflating charges beyond the original NtK amount was unenforceable.

(b) No Invitation for the Keeper to Pay (PoFA 9(2)(e)(i))

PoFA Paragraph 9(2)(e)(i) requires an NtK to:

"Invite the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charges; or if the keeper was not the driver, to notify the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver."

Your NtK fails to include a clear invitation for the Keeper to pay. Instead, it:

-States that the driver is liable to pay.
-Tells the Keeper to provide the driver’s details and to pass the notice on.

As the Keeper is under no legal obligation to identify the driver, the only fulfilled requirement is to "pass the NtK on." There is no explicit invitation for the Keeper to pay, meaning the NtK is defective under PoFA.

3. PoFA Compliance is an All-or-Nothing Requirement

PoFA is like pregnancy—you either are or you aren’t. You cannot be “a little bit” pregnant, just as an NtK cannot be “a little bit” PoFA compliant.

For an NtK to trigger Keeper liability, it must be fully compliant with every requirement of PoFA. Your NtK fails multiple PoFA requirements, meaning it does not transfer liability to the Keeper. The only party that can be held liable is the driver, who has not been identified.

4. Resolution Required

As this is a formal complaint and an appeal under PPSCoP Section 11.2, you are required to:

1. Provide a response to this complaint and appeal.
2. If you reject my points of appeal, issue a POPLA code so that I can escalate the matter.

Please confirm your response within 14 days, as required under the PPSCoP.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 16, 2025, 11:04:40 am
@b789

Thank you for that, seems promising especially with that court ruling!

I am passed the time allowed for appeal on the Premier Park website and just get this message:

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This PCN has been transferred to our Debt Recovery Agent
Please contact us if you wish to enquire about this PCN

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But they also state:

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APPEALS CANNOT BE CONSIDERED OVER THE TELEPHONE OR BY SENDING AN E-MAIL. WE CURRENTLY ONLY ACCEPT APPEALS SENT USING THE ONLINE FORM BELOW OR SENT TO US BY POST.

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So at this point should I just wait for the LOC to come through as I can't get a POPLA number if I can't make a claim with the company correct?

Thanks
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 16, 2025, 10:59:27 am
Do you know if the land is part of the Pub?

I used the free service on the land registry website and it stated that the area of the car park fell under "***Pub Name** and grounds" so I guess I can assume that it is.

In either case I've emailed the pub to ask if they can intervene but as of yet haven't heard anything back.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 15, 2025, 11:36:27 pm
The Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA. There is a sentence on the back which states:

"If we are required to take further action to recover the Parking Charge the amount due may increase up to£170."

You may ask why this invalidates Keeper liability under PoFA. PoFA, Paragraph 4(5) states:

"The maximum sum which may be recovered from the keeper by virtue of the right conferred by this paragraph is the amount specified in the notice to keeper under paragraph 9(2)(d)."

POFA Paragraph 9(2)(d) states:

"The notice must—specify the total amount of those parking charges that are unpaid, as at a time which is—specified in the notice;"

• This strictly limits the amount recoverable from the keeper to the sum stated in the NtK under Paragraph 9(2)(d) which is £100.
• If the NtK states that the amount may increase beyond this, it fails to comply with PoFA because it misrepresents the potential liability of the keeper.

An NtK must be fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA for the operator to transfer liability from the driver to the keeper. If an operator includes a non-PoFA compliant demand (e.g., suggesting an increase to £170), the NtK is defective, meaning they cannot hold the keeper liable—only the driver (if identified) can be pursued.

Court Rulings & Legal Precedent

In Excel v Wilkinson (2022) (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/35c7pvc0z10yuvc18pett/excel_v_wilkinson.pdf?rlkey=yzrgfkx675lbgqcm4wbm9f6hu&st=0os6hajw&dl=0), the judge ruled that debt recovery charges were not legitimate and that attempts to inflate the charge beyond what was stated in the original NtK were unenforceable.

Courts have also criticised misleading language in NtKs that misrepresent the true liability of the keeper.

The second PoFA failure is that there is no invitation for the Keeper to pay the charge. PoFA 9(2)(e)(i) states:

"The notice must-state that the creditor does not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and invite the keeper—

(i)to pay the unpaid parking charges; or

(ii)if the keeper was not the driver of the vehicle, to notify the creditor of the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver and to pass the notice on to the driver;

The NtK says that the driver is liable to pay the charge and tells the Keeper to provide the drivers details and to pass the notice on. However, as the Keeper is under no legal obligation to provide the drivers details, the only element that is fulfilled is the requirement to pass the NtK on to the driver. There is no invitation to the Keeper to pay the charge.

The notice must "invite" the Keeper to pay. Even if the actual word "invite" is not used, then with the use of a synonym there must be a clear invitation. There isn't. There can be no inferred obligation.

So, the operator has failed to fully comply with all the requirements of PoFA. Just like you can't be a little but pregnant, you either are or you aren't, then they can't just be a bit compliant with PoFA. They either are fully compliant or they are not. In this case, they are not.

What this means is that you should follow this advice for now:

There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Premier Park has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. Premier Park have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 15, 2025, 09:03:26 pm
Here you go :)

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Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 15, 2025, 08:36:40 pm
You need to un-redact the dates on the NtK.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 15, 2025, 07:54:00 pm
Here is a picture of one of the signs:

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Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 15, 2025, 07:50:35 pm
This is the original email I sent to change my address:

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Dear Sir/Madam,



Please send all correspondence regarding car with registration **** to:

***Correct Address***

Please can I ask you to resend any previous correspondence to the above correct address:

***Correct address***

Please erase from your records the incorrect address of:

***Incorrect address***

I have attached for the purposes of proof the V5C logbook for ***Reg*** and a bank statement.

Thank you for your time.

Yours faithfully,

***Name***

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After further research on this forum I then sent this one the next day:

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Dear Sir/Madam,

Car Registration: ***Reg***

I am writing to request the rectification of my personal data under Article 16 of the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR). I instruct Premier Park Ltd to update their records to reflect my current address for service:

***Correct Address***

Additionally, I request that you erase any other address or addresses you may currently hold for me in compliance with Article 17 of the UK GDPR.

It has come to my attention that a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) may have been issued and sent to an address that is now out of date. To ensure compliance with data protection laws and to avoid any further miscommunication, I require you to rectify this issue by updating your records accordingly.

Furthermore, if my personal data has been shared with any third parties, I instruct you to ensure that they also rectify their records and erase any incorrect or outdated address information. Under Article 19 of the UK GDPR, it is your responsibility to notify such third parties of the rectification or erasure of personal data.

To verify my identity and current address, I am providing a copy of my V5C document. This document serves as sufficient evidence for data verification purposes.

Please confirm in writing that:

1.My address has been updated in your records.
2. All other addresses held have been erased.
3. Any third parties with whom my data has been shared have been notified to rectify or erase my data.

I also request that any time frames/time limits and processes for any outstanding Parking Charge Notices be reset due to the possibility that correspondence has not been received, allowing the opportunity to appeal. Furthermore, I request that all correspondence be resent to the above address allowing sufficient time to respond.

Yours faithfully,
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Yesterday they responded to my first email:

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Dear ***Name***

We write in response to the below email.



Please accept this email as confirmation that we have updated your address on our systems and have notified Debt Recovery Plus of the same.

Whilst we note that you have requested erasure of your prior address, as this was provided by the DVLA, due to our obligations we are unable to erase the same.

We note your request for correspondence previously sent and can confirm that we have attached the same to this email for your perusal.

If, for any reason, you are dissatisfied with this response you have the right to raise a complaint with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) via https://ico.org.uk/make-a-complaint/. 

Prior to making a complaint, you may wish to contact the ICO helpline on 0303 123 1113, which will advise you in relation to your rights and our obligations under Data Protection legislation. 

We thank you for contacting us.

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They, as of yet, haven't responded to my second email.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: b789 on March 15, 2025, 12:45:40 pm
Simply updating your V5C address with the DVLA after receiving a PCN sent to an old address, does not alter the fact that the operator holds an incorrect address for service which puts you in the danger of receiving a CCJ by default.

Before you do anything else, you MUST send a Data Rectification Notice DRN to the Premier Park DPO, instructing them to update their records with your current address for service and to erase your old address. The highlighted words are there for a reason and you should use them.

You can get the DPO contact address in Premier Parks privacy statement on their website. It should have an email address you can use but if you use snail mail, make sure you send it first class with a free proof of posting certificate from any post office. Never use registered/recorded delivery which is expensive and at best can only prove non delivery.

When you’ve submitted your DRN, come back for advice on how to proceed with dealing with your PCN.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: Dave65 on March 15, 2025, 10:48:04 am
Do you know if the land is part of the Pub?
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 14, 2025, 07:50:51 pm
Thanks for replying. I’ll upload them as soon as I get home.

Yes the driver was a customer of the pub.

I haven’t contact the pub yet no, there is a sign in the car park saying that they don’t have anything to do with it. But I will email them to try at least.
Title: Re: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: G6PRK on March 14, 2025, 07:32:17 pm
Un-redact dates/times etc. from the NtK - they are important. Also post signage/cams etc. - anything else relevant you have (not debt collector letters)

Were you/the driver a customer of the pub? Have you complained to the pub?
Title: Premier Park - Failure to pay for the duration of stay - Pub car park new
Post by: RegKeeper on March 14, 2025, 07:19:18 pm
Hi all.

I wonder if you could have a look at this NTK and reminder to see if there is anything I could fight with this PCN.

This is already at the debt collector stage as the NTK and Reminder weren't originally received because of incorrect address on V5C (corrected now).

A parking ticket was purchased for 2 hours.

I can post the debt collector letter aswell if needed. I also have pics of the signs and ANPR cam locations.


Thanks for your help.

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