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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Oscar.25 on March 13, 2025, 02:20:51 pm
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Outcome (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rlnBidKaNTn_i_qzvWdBMuc4A-zlwc56/view).
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;D They sought a reschedule which was denied and no evidence adduced. Mr Peter Brady must have been the representative - The Invisible Man. 8)
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A formal complaint is next on my list as they have allowed some, but not others.
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I have an identical situation, I sent a letter pointing out the above flaw and they responded with a rejection letter. Do you charge for representations? Thanks. Just I have another day to pay £65 (letter just arrived very late) and I have to consider my overall costs and effort. My original post which I believe you responded to at the time is here:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/haringey-52-m-failing-to-comply-with-prohibition-on-motor-vehicles-boundary-road/msg65797/#msg65797
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Appeal filed.
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I will get on with this shortly.
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Hello, they replied with a rejection, I sent you the letter in private message. Thank you.
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Happy to do so. They will reject almost certainly.
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Hello,
I sent them what you just said just now, I will update you when I hear back.
Yes, if you could represent me please I would be really grateful, I appreciate your help.
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Hi
Just send them this:
Dear Haringey
I make a collateral challenge as your PCN is invalid for the following reasons:
The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above, with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.
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Please see the case I posted BUT do not mention it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mq9MAnLdByhCxR5IzpKhvDT7LKlTOHUJ/view
I am happy to represent you for free by video and/or phone link. Takes less than half an hour usuaully.
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Hello, thank you for your advice, I'm not entirely sure I understood what you are saying, but I think you are saying that they did not tell me my rights properly, they missed something from the actual law?
I never done an appeal, so if you don't mind, how would you recommend I appeal this, what should I say to the council? And will I have to go to some sort of hearing if I appeal?
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https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/lambeth-no-entry-51-j-auckland-hill/msg62342/#msg62342
The PCN is invalid. Statement above the photos. My submissions re 224038612A
The PCN wrongly states which action triggers the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate: “If the Penalty Charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of this notice an increased charge of £195.00 maybe payable. We may then send you a Charge Certificate.” The law states at Schedule 1 5:
1)Where a penalty charge notice is served on any person and the penalty charge to which it relates is not paid before the end of the relevant period, the enforcing authority may serve on that person a statement (in this paragraph referred to as a “charge certificate”) to the effect that the penalty charge in question is increased by 50 per cent.
(2)The relevant period, in relation to a penalty charge notice is the period of 28 days beginning—
(a)where no representations are made under paragraph 1 above, with the date on which the penalty charge notice is served;
Case here:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/haringey-52(m)-pcn-nor-help-(downhills-park-rd-n17)/msg54603/#msg54603
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Sorry I didn't explain properly, I came in the correct way and parked on where I circled, I did not come in from the no entry sign. I parked there and when I came back I turned the car around and left this time yes going the wrong way, I assume there is nothing I can do to appeal it, but thought of asking here if there was any chance.
I know but if you don't tell anyone I won't.
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Sorry I didn't explain properly, I came in the correct way and parked on where I circled, I did not come in from the no entry sign. I parked there and when I came back I turned the car around and left this time yes going the wrong way, I assume there is nothing I can do to appeal it, but thought of asking here if there was any chance.
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There's no evidence in the video of you breaching a direction arrow. The signs at the start of the road are no entry signs.
(https://i.imgur.com/HM1QOp8.gif)
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I left my car parked where I circled for 2h, when leaving I forgot that it's a one way, and that I could not turn back and go back the way I came, the rest of the road before that junction with the arrow is a two way that's why I just subconsciously went back, is there any way I can appeal it? the contravention is 32D failing to proceed in the direction shown by the arrow on a blue sign, I should've noticed it when coming in, that is my fault, but I forgot about it. Any way I can appeal it?
Pictures of the letter: https://imgur.com/a/W40hiMT (https://imgur.com/a/W40hiMT)
Google maps location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/qfcvWKtRGRaashmy6