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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: savi711 on March 10, 2025, 12:45:48 pm

Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: savi711 on March 18, 2025, 09:05:25 am
Hi @Hippocrates,  

The 14 day period is ending tomorrow so just checking if am I resigned to paying up based on the street view images shared? I will accept my losses and mark this down as a costly mistake.

Thanks
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: savi711 on March 17, 2025, 06:04:03 pm
Appreciate the responses.

1st video - assuming other verhicles are permit holders.

Street View images of the approach, warning signs are in place:

(https://i.imgur.com/NbKlV3C.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DQIrFwe.jpeg)

2nd contravention Street View showing relevant signs on approach and turning into Holmesdale Rd.

(https://i.imgur.com/Y1MJuPm.jpeg)
(https://i.imgur.com/T0jJsbp.jpeg)

Thanks
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: Hippocrates on March 17, 2025, 08:52:02 am
They have fixed their website issues unfortunately. I did attend in person but it was a parking contravention. Now hearings are held by video and/or telephone.

First video: several vehicles go through which suggests there is not adequate warning signage?

Second video: does not show sign allegedly passed. Warning signage in place?
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: Incandescent on March 17, 2025, 12:46:50 am
Hi @Hippocrates, thank you for the referral to the previous case
 
As a newbie I'm not sure I've fully understood the grounds that the case was worn but think it's related to he website being inadequate.

In that particular case, did you show up in person or was this an online appeal of a decision to POPLA?

On what grounds should I appeal the ticket on the council website and anything else to note based on the images of the council website I have uploaded ?

Apologies for the multiple questions.
POPLA is nothing to do with council PCNs, it handles appeals against private parking tickets issued by parking companies.
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: savi711 on March 16, 2025, 11:02:58 pm
Hi @Hippocrates, thank you for the referral to the previous case
 
As a newbie I'm not sure I've fully understood the grounds that the case was worn but think it's related to he website being inadequate.

In that particular case, did you show up in person or was this an online appeal of a decision to POPLA?

On what grounds should I appeal the ticket on the council website and anything else to note based on the images of the council website I have uploaded ?

Apologies for the multiple questions.
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: savi711 on March 10, 2025, 02:00:55 pm
Screenshots of website uploaded to the original post.

Thanks
Title: Re: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: Hippocrates on March 10, 2025, 01:48:51 pm
Please screenshot the website and rep[ort back. It is useless and this can be used at the Tribunal. I have looked just now and won a case on it recently.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/bensham-lane-croydon/msg46690/#msg46690
Title: CROYDON, code 53J - Restricted road (timings), Lodge Rd, by Elmwood Rd Croydon
Post by: savi711 on March 10, 2025, 12:45:48 pm
I received the PCN as shown in links below:

PCN
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VG1zpUe9LDH5GdCb9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/GYNjfKz47sZgCgRD8
https://photos.app.goo.gl/b2dRqwncjhHi83V18

Video
https://photos.app.goo.gl/hnA4VczLLkbYzh6g9

Google Maps Street View
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8vSxWbYZgzJqEtrC8

My only defence is that I am new to the area, I was parked on Elmwood Rd and was looking to get my orientation right for my navigation app (meaning that I was trying to face the right direction.

I also received another contravention less than 10 minutes late for a similar contravention in the same council which I will post separately. Again, my only defence is that I am new to the area but is there something in case law which means that you cannot be charged with the same offence on the same day ?

Details of 2nd PCN - code 52J, prohibiiton on certain types of vehicles, Holmesdale Rd SE25 near Park Rd SE25 by Park Rd

Photos
https://photos.app.goo.gl/L74jpRVWFGNZ4u489
https://photos.app.goo.gl/mzAdSAYz6sgWVC9c9
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LeTfNKHD8vNRTP2D6

Video
https://photos.app.goo.gl/RbxNWpYo3wHfVmEk8

Google Maps Street View
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JAzcEF3AkQX7ttNn8

Any help / advice much appreciated.

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