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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: Pipps on March 05, 2025, 07:58:00 am

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: jfollows on March 05, 2025, 01:38:51 pm

Good result!

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: Pipps on March 05, 2025, 01:36:29 pm

I emailed Derbyshire CREST this morning and three hours later I received a response stating that the second notice has been cancelled!

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: jfollows on March 05, 2025, 11:10:53 am

Send both replies together with covering letter stapled to both, I suggest, if I wasn’t clear. Plus proof of posting from the Post Office as usual.

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: Pipps on March 05, 2025, 10:16:21 am

Both NIPs from Derbyshire CREST.

It seems @DurhamDriver was successful here (https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/received-2-nips-on-same-journey-17-minutes-apart/msg35433/#msg35433).

I will enclose covering letters.

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: RichardW on March 05, 2025, 10:05:44 am

It has a fair chance if they are the same force, but we have seen several cases on this stretch recently where the offences were 2 separate forces, and the request was denied.  But as jfollows says, worst that can happen is they say no, and you have the 2 offences to deal with.

Title: Re: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: jfollows on March 05, 2025, 09:44:15 am

Reply to both NIPs correctly and attach a covering letter to both replies requesting that the offence be considered as a single continuous offence rather than two separate offences.

If you don’t ask, you won’t get, and the police are reasonably tolerant of this argument.

Title: Two NIPs received for immediately consecutive average camera locations
Post by: Pipps on March 05, 2025, 07:58:00 am

I have received two separate NIPs, referring to images from two pairs of average speed cameras time-stamped seven minutes apart, on the same stretch of motorway at immediately consecutive locations on the M1.

Would it be possible to get the second NIP struck-out?

How should I respond to both NIPs?