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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Abi90 on March 03, 2025, 04:56:26 pm

Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: stamfordman on March 11, 2025, 11:51:31 am
Yes the bay markings have worn away as they often do on cobblestones - it's something but the context there is not favourable in my view as there are bay signs and it's an area which is most unlikely to be controlled.
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Abi90 on March 10, 2025, 10:59:08 pm
Also, we've just realised there are either no markings on the floor or they are so faded they don't appear to be there. we have viewed the images of the vehicle from all angles and cannot see white lines marking the bay. This is another valid ground for appeal, no?

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Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Abi90 on March 10, 2025, 10:25:57 pm
Hi all,
Thanks for youtr responses so far.

Any suggestions on how to write an appeal?

Many thanks
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Abi90 on March 03, 2025, 09:56:28 pm
Thanks all for your responses.  I've never had a pcn on the car like this. However, if it was a pcn sent to them, they usually contact me via email to say they have given my details and I should await correspondence from the issuing authority. They have never laid a pcn on my behalf.

How would I word a challenge based on the technicality of a wrong pcn issue?
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: stamfordman on March 03, 2025, 07:08:49 pm
Another point is that it isn't a resident's bay but a permit bay.

I think Mr Mustard could be keen on the two flaws here.
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Incandescent on March 03, 2025, 06:39:16 pm
Well see what others think but they have technically given a wrong contravention. Problem is the lease car as Greenwich will probably reject the informal challenge and then the NTO is sent to the lease co.
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The problem is it being a lease car. You need to check with them what they do with PCNs and NtOs that arrive for people leasing their cars. Far too many just cough-up and on-charge the lessee, (adding 20% "admin fee" on the way, of course !)
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: stamfordman on March 03, 2025, 06:27:06 pm
Well see what others think but they have technically given a wrong contravention. Problem is the lease car as Greenwich will probably reject the informal challenge and then the NTO is sent to the lease co.
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Abi90 on March 03, 2025, 06:02:29 pm
Unfortunately we didn't. We saw no marked bay, didn't see the signs and thought as it was Sunday, it was free parking. I know.  Palm face. It's Greenwich how we thought that, it was confusion.
Title: Re: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: stamfordman on March 03, 2025, 05:29:03 pm
Did you pay for parking?

I have something - they've given you a 12S contravention, where the S means a shared use bay as per the ones opposite. But you were in a permit only bay.

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Title: PCN- Greenwich- parking in residents only-Ballast Quay- leased vehicle
Post by: Abi90 on March 03, 2025, 04:56:26 pm
Hi everyone,

I received a PCN for parking in a residents-only area (left on the windscreen), and it was an honest mistake. The opposite side and the road leading up to it were for permit holders or pay-at-machine parking. My partner and I were running late, and our baby was hysterically crying—honestly, we were completely distracted and blanked on checking the signs.

We know there's no real excuse, but we’re in a tough spot and would appreciate any advice on how to handle this. To make matters worse, it's the third PCN we’ve received in a week (different timelines, all arriving together), and I’m really at my wits' end. Maternity pay is tight, and it’s been a lot to deal with.

Many thanks

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