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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: jody on February 24, 2025, 02:58:08 pm

Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: b789 on March 26, 2025, 12:53:19 pm
How many actual CCJs have been issued for parking at this location? I do not want to know how many PCNs are yet to be processed.

It is impossible to assist properly unless you answer the questions raised in previous posts. You say you've paid some of the CCJs but you are not making sense.

The fact that you only updated your V5C after the dates of the alleged contraventions means that all the correspondence for those PCNs went to your old address. Any correspondence that comes to the current address will be down to a debt recovery agent doing a simple credit file search to find your current address. The fact that all the claims were sent to the old address means that you missed crucial documents.

What we don't know is how many PCNs in total we are dealing with here. How many of those were issued a claim? Were they all on a single claim or were separate claims issued for each PCN? These questions are important and you will need to clarify with answers.

If they have made separate claims for each PCN, then they have breached a vital legal principle of estoppel. If the claims were served to an address you no longer resided at, irrespective of whether you had updated your V5C doesn't matter and you could have had each CCJ set aside.

However, I am not clear where you stand now as you say you have paid some money to DCBL already. If you've paid anything and it is more than 30 days since the judgment was entered, the CCJ stays on your record but is simply marked as 'satisfied' for the next 6 years and is only one degree less financially painful than not having it marked as satisfied.

As this seems extremely complex and has not been dealt with at all properly, I suggest you seek proper legal advice. However, I can recommend that you try and make contact with Jackson Yamba at Contestor Legal (https://www.contestorlegal.co.uk), as his track record in dealing with cases like this is exemplary/
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY-UKPC
Post by: jody on March 26, 2025, 11:48:30 am
Hey there,

So I now have a clearer picture of my charges after SAR request went through.

I have a total of 20 PCN from UKPC which I wasn't aware of due to address change

PCN notices as far back as June 2024

I have since had a CCJ issued with an enforcement officer collecting about £2000 ish pounds

I updated my license 11/12 and V5C 25/2(my fault obviously with the delays)

The date on CCJ is in January with my current address on it and yet they are still sending intial notices after this date to the old address and i am only getting them at the debt recovery/ legal stage.

I have obviously stopped parking at this premise.

I dont know if any of above makes sense but i am just looking for advice on how to proceed.

I was going to email UKPC to appeal remaining charges on grounds of incorrect address for the notices and now CCJ which has not only caused financial strain but also mental strain and its effect on my credit score. I also want to find out which of the 20 notices are covered by the CCJ

Any advice appreciated
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: b789 on March 21, 2025, 04:08:41 pm
You could show us the letter from BW Legal if you want our advice.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on March 21, 2025, 10:19:00 am
I have received a separate letter from BW legal all related to parking at the same place as all the other tickets including the one from the enforcement officer. I have written to UKPC to appeal as i never received any notices prior and to DPO to get all my notices but yet to hear from them.

Any advice on a way forward will be appreciated on how to proceed with BW legal
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: DWMB2 on March 09, 2025, 05:01:41 pm
This is looking like it might be outside the scope of expertise of this forum, and you may be wise to seek professional legal advice. Where enforcement is involved, over on the council section of this forum Bailiff Advice Online (https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk/) is often mentioned - they have a free helpline. I have no experience of their service first hand, so this isn't an endorsement of them.

I now have other debt recovery charges from UKPC that have also just arrived since I moved address and updated my address details. Please advice if I can appeal all charges..
Start a new thread for those.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on March 09, 2025, 04:43:58 pm
I have attached the letter.. I have called the officer and was adamant debt needed paid. I just never received any parking notices pertaining to this parking offence. As I have parked in the same area a few times unaware it was permitted only I now have other debt recovery charges from UKPC that have also just arrived since I moved address and updated my address details. Please advice if I can appeal all charges..

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Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: DWMB2 on March 07, 2025, 10:29:10 pm
Can you please show us this letter?

If enforcement agents have turned up to potentially seize goods this is a far more serious than a potential court case and means a CCJ has seemingly been secured against you, and presumably for more than a single charge if enforcement is involved.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on March 07, 2025, 10:19:42 pm
I now have a high enforcement officer at my house today while I was away who dropped off a letter saying to contact them to discuss reason for attendance and avoid further escalation and that they would return to collect my car Monday..
I just never received any letters and now I take it’s too late to do anything?
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: b789 on March 04, 2025, 12:37:39 am
Yes
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on March 03, 2025, 01:53:23 pm
I didn’t receive any NtK.just started getting debt recovery letters and now have 5 of them already. Can I send one of them?
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: b789 on March 03, 2025, 10:43:00 am
So, did you not give them any reference to which they can make sure you are the person who is eligible for the info? Just give them a copy of the NtK you received!
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on March 03, 2025, 10:39:51 am
I have updated my V5C and sent a subject access request and data rectification notice to DPO at UK parking control services.

I have since received the following email:

Thank you for your email.

I am in receipt of your request under Article 15 of the General Data Protection Regulations 2018 (GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018 for the personal data which we hold in relation to the above Parking Charge. However, before we can process your request, we must comply with our Data Protection Policy and guidelines from the DVLA ensuring that only the driver or registered keeper are sent information in relation to the Parking Charge.
 
Unfortunately, we are unable to process your enquiry due to you not providing one of the following:
 
Parking Charge Reference
Vehicle Registration
 
After consultation with the Information Commissioners Office (ICO) we can request further documentary evidence to confirm the identity of the requester of the information we hold. Therefore, we ask if you would confirm if you were the driver/registered keeper of the vehicle at the date of the Parking Charge and submit ID evidence (Driving licence/passport) which confirms your details and signature.
 
Emails sent as requests for data release can only be actioned if a signed letter and ID as above are attached to the email.
 
If you are able to provide all of the above, we will be able to look into your enquiry and advise you accordingly.

Shall I just proceed with sending my driving license details as requested.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jfollows on February 24, 2025, 07:12:31 pm
The letters from DCBL should indicate for whom they are operating.
If not, you should be able to find out who “enforces” the parking at your partner’s site.
You can send them a Subject Access Request to obtain the information they hold on you, including the parking charge notices.
You can also serve them with a formal notification of your current address, which they must use in future correspondence.

Just not DCBL in any way, ignore them at all times.

Once you receive the notices you can post here and we can advise - there is a good chance that you don’t owe them anything but without the information we can’t guess.

Please stop going on about your “DL”, by which I think you mean your driving licence. It contains no details about your car.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: b789 on February 24, 2025, 07:04:22 pm
By failing to update your V5C in a timely manner, you run the risk of a real "penalty" of up to £1,000. Get your priorities and understanding right!
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jfollows on February 24, 2025, 06:59:55 pm
Your driving licence and its address details have no relevance at all here.

Your V5C document is the one used to find your address. I strongly suggest you update it as a matter of priority. Otherwise you may miss mail which results in a default judgement against you.
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on February 24, 2025, 05:53:50 pm
Sorry yes December 2024.

I am yet to update the V5C. I havent received any PCN as i think they may have been going to the previous address on the DL. Should i email UKPC to find out how many and where those PCN were posted to? Or try access the mail from my old address which is miles away from my current address? All abit messy i know!

My patner doesnt drive so he has no allocated parking at the premise. I only found out about the permit after asking his landlord about the parking rules when i started getting the debt recovery charges.

So my question really is
How do i find out how many more tickets i have and how do i somehow settle this?
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: DWMB2 on February 24, 2025, 03:23:52 pm
In addition to what your partner's lease says about parking, it will also be important to know where the vehicle was parked. Was it in a specific space allocated/demised to your partner as part of his lease, or somewhere else?
Title: Re: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jfollows on February 24, 2025, 03:12:47 pm
Please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

On a technicality (apart from the date), updating your driving licence will have been irrelevant, it’s the V5C document which connects your car to your address. Or the V5C is still incorrect, but DCBL has traced you by other means.

In general, ignore and do not contact DCBL in any way, but the PCNs you received will be relevant, please post here.

The rules covering your partner’s address may also be important, is it rented and what does the lease say about parking if so? This is important because the lease will trump any secondary arrangements.
Title: DCBL DEBT RECOVERY
Post by: jody on February 24, 2025, 02:58:08 pm
Newbie want some advice.

I updated my DL details in December 2025 and i have since then been receiving DCBL recovery charges from parking at my patners address. I have been parking at the same place for over a year mostly at the weekend when i visit and neither I or him were aware of permit requirements until i got the letters. I did pay for two of the initial ones just because i didnt want trouble but now there's 3 more that have arrived in the post all £170. I dont know how many more there are going to send given how long i have been parking at the address and how to proceed with this.

Advice much appreciated.