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Title: Re: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: Hippocrates on February 20, 2025, 09:42:11 pm

Quote from: Incandescent on February 20, 2025, 06:58:58 pm

Quote from: Hippocrates on February 20, 2025, 01:55:13 pm

AFAIR Brent may now have updated their website?

So no 'technical appeal' there, then ?

They have not.

https://brent.tarantoportal.com/PCN/PCN/MakeRepresentationBarbourLogic

Title: Re: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: SimonL on February 20, 2025, 07:01:13 pm

This is my first time getting fined for going into a part-time pedestrian zone and I have been driving for a while.  The signs are confusing and I was trying to find a way to someone's house that I was providing with a quotation for some work. 

It is a nuisance - driving has become difficult and there are so many cameras looking to profit from unsuspecting people that are going about their business. 

I am so sad and upset as it feels as though I have been penalised for being an older driver that struggles with all the restrictions that are being introduced.  I have to navigate, pay attention to the speed limits, the roads, and be aware of restrictions while knowing the correct time.  It is so difficult.

Thieving councils and complicit government should be removing barriers to business, but instead they make it harder and harder.

Title: Re: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: Incandescent on February 20, 2025, 06:58:58 pm

Quote from: Hippocrates on February 20, 2025, 01:55:13 pm

AFAIR Brent may now have updated their website?

So no 'technical appeal' there, then ?

Title: Re: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: Hippocrates on February 20, 2025, 01:55:13 pm

AFAIR Brent may now have updated their website?

Title: Re: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: Incandescent on February 20, 2025, 12:43:22 pm

OK, so here is the sign that you passed, and it has been there for four years as this GSV view is January 2021
https://maps.app.goo.gl/fXFbUajJaHKb3Ds26

GSV for December 2020, shows an advance sign, although if it's still there, it should have been changed to reflect the vehicles allowed to pass that the current sign has on it.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/y73EiqLAHRnWo2aQ9

So, did you jus misjudge the time, knowing the sign was there ? 5 minutes into the restriction times is rather too much for a de minimis appeal, frankly.

IN recent times, the councils have started to introduce web pages that accept representations against a PCN, and these have been found to be riddled with errors, such that appeals have been won on them. So see what the others say, but don't miss the PCN deadline to pay or submit reps

Title: PCN Brent: Contravention 53J Driving into Pedestrian Zone, Old Kenton Ln NW9 / Larkspurs Cl NW9
Post by: SimonL on February 20, 2025, 11:38:59 am

I just received a PCN for driving into a pedestrian zone at 1435.  The zone comes into effect at 1430, so I entered 5 minutes too late to miss the penalty.

Is there a defence that I can use?

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