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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: grgfstr on February 19, 2025, 08:53:49 pm
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PCN wrongly states that appeals must be made within 21 days. Also says that after 28 days an NtK will be sent. If they send one exactly 28 days after issuing the PCN they will have breached PoFA because they would have requested the Keeper data from the DVLA too early. DVLA,data,cannot be requested, processed and received on the same day.
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I have removed that attachment - you should redact your VRM and the PCN reference number. You should show us all of the notice, even the back and any details you think are irrelevant.
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)
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I have removed that attachment - you should redact your VRM and the PCN reference number. You should show us all of the notice, even the back and any details you think are irrelevant.
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)
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Can you please show us the notice the driver found on the windscreen?
This site looks familiar, I'm sure I saw it crop up on the old site (PePiPoo), so it's a common trap. A good starting point would be to contact Manchester City Council (https://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/500344/roads_and_transport/1954/road_ownership_usage_and_plans/2) and see if they can confirm if where the vehicle was is part of a highway maintained at public expense (the Street Gazetteer doesn't provide a definitive answer: https://www.findmystreet.co.uk/map?usrn=24503745 (https://www.findmystreet.co.uk/map?usrn=24503745)).
Logic would suggest that the boundary where the private car park starts is here (https://maps.app.goo.gl/LY7bqBD21G8WYNvC8) where the line of bricks is. Even if the vehicle is parked on private land it is certainly not readily apparent from the signage or the lay of the land.
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Entered Great Street 10 Febuary AM, Parked Car in Image shown. PCN issued 10 Febuary PM on screen of car for alleged use of car park. Singage straddling the end of the road and entrance of the car park states that no car parking allowed, but this was attributed to the car park. No adjacent signage or road markings next to the car indicate that this part of the street was also subject to the rules on that sign.
PCN appeal was sent to SIP parking in which they rejected it due to 'Your veichle was parked in a manner other than in accordance withe the signange sitated at the car park' and an officer stated that the 'veichle was parked in front of a sign which clearly states no parking at any time'.
I would appreciate some advice on the matter/legal views, my personal opinion is that the sign is not clearly applicable to the location of the parked car, with other cars also parked adjacent to the subject car and not recieving a PCN notice. The subject car was also not in the car park which the ticket states that it is.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Q1FquLp8ssQqrUro6
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