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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: StewardStreet5744 on February 19, 2025, 02:07:11 pm

Title: Re: UK Car Park Management / Dept Recovery Plus - Vehicle not registered - Milton Keynes
Post by: StewardStreet5744 on February 19, 2025, 07:13:26 pm
Cheers for the advice, appreciate it!
Title: Re: UK Car Park Management / Dept Recovery Plus - Vehicle not registered - Milton Keynes
Post by: b789 on February 19, 2025, 05:37:56 pm
They are required to have signs notifying users of the material changes for at least four months.
Title: Re: UK Car Park Management / Dept Recovery Plus - Vehicle not registered - Milton Keynes
Post by: StewardStreet5744 on February 19, 2025, 03:19:41 pm
I paid the one notice before the others started rolling in.
As soon as the other letters arrived I didn't make payment for them.

I don't believe there were changes in the signage prior to December, but I will check this week.

The parking is for 4 retail units for 15-ish cars.


Title: Re: UK Car Park Management / Dept Recovery Plus - Vehicle not registered - Milton Keynes
Post by: b789 on February 19, 2025, 03:01:12 pm
Why on earth did you pay one of them? They have no idea who the driver is and their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA. Only the unknown driver is liable and as long as the known Keeper doesn't blab the unknown drivers identity, there is nothing they can do about it.

Also, you state that there has been a material change to the terms and conditions of parking as they have "implemented" ANPR recently. Has the recent introduction of ANPR and any other changes in terms and conditions been notified prominently at the entrance and throughout the car park?

Section 3.4 of the PPSCoP requires UKCPM to:

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3.4. Material changes – notices

Where there is any material change to any pre-existing terms and conditions that would not be immediately apparent to a driver entering controlled land that is or has been open for public parking, the parking operator must place additional (temporary) notices at the site entrance for a period of not less than 4 months from the date of the change making it clear that new terms and conditions/charges apply, such that regular visitors who might be familiar with the old terms do not inadvertently incur parking charges.

NOTE: Examples of material changes can include introduction of parking enforcement where none has previously applied, introduction of time-limited free parking, or reductions in the time limit within which free parking is available. Given the need to avoid confusion and clutter at entrances the test is whether the fact that a change has been made is clearly signalled to drivers on entering the land and the nature of the change is clearly displayed thereafter – it may also be necessary to install repeater notices depending on the scale of the premises.

So, before we go any further, have UKCPM complied with their own ATA rules?
Title: UK Car Park Management / Dept Recovery Plus - Vehicle not registered - Milton Keynes
Post by: StewardStreet5744 on February 19, 2025, 02:07:11 pm
I park where I work and the establishment does not have permits for staff.
Prior to December, they had not implemented the ANPR system.
After parking there for a week in December, I received parking charge notices for the periods I was working.
I paid for one PCN in December, but none of the others.
I also received another PCN in January:
https://imgur.com/a/kwY4yq6

Fast forward to this month, 3 of the December PCNs have moved to Debt Recovery Plus:
https://imgur.com/vnFXLn2
https://imgur.com/6ZxuSml
https://imgur.com/bthrK0f

How should I proceed moving forwards?