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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Mark_Fletch13 on February 19, 2025, 12:56:42 pm

Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on December 15, 2025, 06:44:07 pm
Thank you, I have fired this across to them as well to ponder upon. Will update agin when they have digested and responded.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on December 14, 2025, 02:41:11 pm
Reply to that email and CC yourself as follows:

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Subject: Article 14 request – incomplete response – your ref [BW ref]

Dear Sirs,

I refer to your letter about my UK GDPR Article 14 request. Your response is incomplete.

As you do not publish a DPO email address, I require you to ensure this request is immediately escalated to and actioned by your Data Protection Officer or the person responsible for data protection compliance. Confirm their name and contact details in your reply. Treat this email as part of the audit trail for my Article 14 request.

Pointing me to a website privacy notice is not Article 14 compliance. I require the specific information for this file:

1. Source of my personal data and the exact date you first received it from Countrywide Parking Management Ltd, plus any other sources used.
2. Categories of personal data you process for this matter.
3. Purposes for processing and the precise lawful basis relied upon for each purpose under Article 6(1).
4. Recipients or categories of recipients to whom you have disclosed my data, and the dates of any disclosures.
5. Your retention period for my data in this matter (not a generic schedule).
6. Whether you undertake automated decision-making or profiling in this case, and if so, meaningful information about the logic involved and envisaged consequences.
7. Contact details for your Data Protection Officer or the person responsible for data protection compliance.

Provide the above within 14 days. If you contend an exemption, identify it specifically and explain how it applies to the particular item withheld. Failure to provide a complete Article 14 response will be added to my ICO complaint.

Confirm that all correspondence and any proceedings will be served only at my current address below.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
[Current address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref]
VRM: [VRM]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on December 14, 2025, 10:47:59 am
As always,

Thank you for your continued support in this and for the hard work and dedication you always provide, especially with the addition of templated responses. It would be impossible to keep fighting them without this assistance. I have responded to BW Legal and CPM as you have recommended.

Out of interest, BW Legal also sent in the meantime a letter to me stating the following:

"We write to you in relation to your UK GDPR Article 14 request.

Information about Article 14 is available on the Information Commissioner´s Office website at www.ico.org.uk

We were instructed by Our Client, Countrywide Parking Management Limited on 23 May 2025. At this time, we were provided with your data and instructions to collect the outstanding balance. We have a Privacy Notice published on our website www.bwlegal.co.uk (attached for ease of reference). It provides useful information including details of the sources of your data, purposes and legal basis on which we process personal data together with out retention periods".
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on December 05, 2025, 10:43:18 am
You now have three leverage pillars. First, CPM’s own Zendesk SAR record names BW Legal as a recipient. Their earlier SAR bundle failed to list BW Legal. That is clear non-compliance with Articles 12 and 15 and directly undercuts their “we’ve disclosed everything” line.

Second, the Unity5 hybrid mail certificate proves they submitted for posting the breach letter on 29/08/2025 to your old address even though they already had your email from 28/08/2025. That makes their “notification” neither without undue delay nor effective for Article 34.

Third, their paperwork contradicts itself: the breach letter claims they reported the breach “in line with obligations”, while the attached ICO self-assessment says there was no need to notify the ICO. Force them to either provide the ICO report reference and submission timestamp or to admit they did not notify.

BW Legal’s refusal to provide RingGo integration and reconciliation is a red herring. You asked for those under the Pre-Action Protocol to narrow the issues, not under a SAR. Keep pressing that those materials go to the heart of your wrong-site payment case: app-only payment was mandated, the app’s map surfaced only “Cotlands Road”, and the correct code 819627 was mis-geolocated. Those documents are plainly relevant pre-action.

The Unity5 “hybrid mail” certificate is significant because it proves CPM submitted for posting the breach letter to the wrong address on the day after the breach. It shows they chose a slow, unreliable channel to an address they should have verified, despite having your email. That supports late and ineffective breach notification and a data-accuracy failure when read alongside your DVLA update timing. It also helps on conduct and costs if they litigate.

Your litigation posture remains strong. The merits are system design and consumer law: the mandated app workflow and mapping made the correct site unfindable and misdirected, so any “use this exact code” term was not transparent or prominent. That engages CRA 2015 transparency and prominence and the Digital Markets, Competition and Consumers Act 2024 (DMCC) on misleading omissions and lack of professional diligence. You also have frustration or impossibility because you took immediate reasonable steps to pay and were thwarted by their system. You will require strict proof of contemporaneous entrance and terms signage and precisely where the code was displayed at the decision point. The £70 add-on is unrecoverable as double recovery and should be challenged as an abuse if pleaded. Their SAR failures, breach notification delay, and address accuracy issues go to unreasonable conduct and support a costs application if they persist.

Next steps in simple terms. Send BW Legal a follow-up demanding PAPDC disclosure and Article 14 particulars and ask for a 30-day hold.


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Subject: Your ref [BW ref] – PAPDC disclosure outstanding/Article 14 particulars

Dear Sirs,

I refer to your letter dated 14 November 2025 and your email of 4 December 2025.

PAPDC disclosure
My request for RingGo integration details, adjacent-site location codes, change logs, and reconciliation for the material period was made under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims to narrow the issues. It was not a SAR.

The dispute concerns misdirection by your client’s mandated app/map workflow. Please disclose those documents, or give a reasoned refusal under the Protocol.

Also provide the signage pack and site plan as at 23/12/2024 (entrance and terms), proof of landowner authority (parties, dates/term, right to issue and litigate), your client’s consideration/grace-period policy then in force, and particulars for any sum beyond the headline charge. The £70 add-on is denied as unrecoverable/double recovery; confirm any claim will be limited to the principal, court fee and fixed legal costs only.

Article 14
Provide the source of my data and the date first received from your client, the categories processed, purposes and lawful bases, recipients, and the retention period. “Passed to the relevant department” is not compliance.

Address for service
Confirm that all correspondence and any proceedings will be served only at my current address below.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
[Current address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref] | VRM: [VRM]

Send the CPM DPO a letter/email pointing out the BW Legal omission, the late and ineffective breach notification, the contradiction about ICO reporting, and the missing personal data items.

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Subject: SAR still incomplete and breach notification failures – PCN [ref], VRM [VRM]

Dear Data Protection Officer,

Your latest message claiming you have met your SAR duties is incorrect.

Recipients
Your own Zendesk SAR record dated 21/11/2025 lists BW Legal Ltd as a recipient. Your earlier SAR bundle omitted BW Legal entirely. Provide a corrected disclosure log for this PCN showing, for each recipient including BW Legal and Trace, the identity, categories of data shared, and the date and time of each disclosure.

Breach notification
You say the breach occurred 28/08/2025 and was identified 29/08/2025. The Unity5 certificate of postage shows you submitted for posting a breach letter on 29/08/2025 to my previous address. You held my email from 28/08/2025 yet failed to notify me until 13/10/2025. That is not “without undue delay” and was not effective communication to the data subject.

Breach reporting contradiction
Your breach letter says you reported the breach in line with obligations. Your attached ICO self-assessment says there was no requirement to notify the ICO. Provide your ICO report reference and submission date/time, or confirm you did not notify and explain why.

Missing personal data still outstanding
Provide the ANPR event log for my VRM for the material period (all reads/timestamps/camera IDs/retention entries), RingGo/payment back-office records that reference my VRM or this PCN including any matching/mismatch notes for the material window, internal notes and portal/web-form audit logs referencing me/this PCN, DVLA KADOE request/response for this PCN (single request date/time and the address returned) and any address-verification or trace records that refer to me, particularly before the Final Notice of 12/05/2025 and before instructing BW Legal, any data-accuracy records explaining use of my former address after my DVLA update in early April 2025, and your retention policy as it applies to my data for this PCN with any deletion logs you rely on. If you claim an exemption for any item, identify the specific exemption and explain how it applies to that item.

Unless you supply the above within 7 days I will file or extend my complaint to the ICO for failures under Articles 12/15, 33/34, and 5(1)(d)/5(1)(f)/32, enclosing your contradictory documents (Zendesk record, Unity5 proof, the self-assessment and breach letter).

Yours faithfully,

[Name]
[Current address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref] | VRM: [VRM]

File or extend the ICO complaint using the documents you now have: Zendesk SAR page naming BW Legal, Unity5 certificate, the breach letter, the ICO self-assessment screenshot, your DVLA update proof, and BW Legal letters to the correct address. Keep all RingGo screenshots and receipts ready and take current photos of entrance and terms signs if you have not already.

If a claim is issued before they comply, plead the consumer-law points, signage/contract formation, frustration, the unrecoverable add-on, and their procedural conduct. The defence will be short and focused, reserving detailed evidence for the witness statement stage.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on December 04, 2025, 07:47:30 pm
Good evening,

I recieved 2 Responses from BW Legal, one via email and one via letter in the post, the former relates to the data breach I was subjected to, the latter essentially just re-states the parking charge with the original "evidence".

I also recieved a response from CPM asserting that they are satisfied that they have submitted all their SAR obligations and also that I firstly stated an address change on 27/09/2025. They have also included an attachment from the ICO relating to the risk to my personal data.

I have included below the attachments mentioned above for reference.

(On the image platform "imgbb", in each album when viewing images please select "AZ" to arrange in the correct order as were sent to me).

Thanks in Advance.


BW Legal email date 4th December referring to data breach
https://ibb.co/album/dJjwMx


BW Legal physical letter 14th November 2025 re-stating the original parking charge
https://ibb.co/album/BLSLcP


CPM Attachments to incomplete SAR email
https://ibb.co/album/9HWYvG


CPM Response to incomplete SAR Challenge
https://ibb.co/album/42wMtW
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 05:16:06 pm
You'll never hear from CPM again once it has been Nanded over to BW Legal. They are your only point of contact from now on.

If you've had any initial response to anything you've sent them, then just wait for them to get back if the ball is currently in their court.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on November 10, 2025, 11:14:11 pm
Thank you for your ongoing support with this case. I have submitted the ICO complaint along with the evidence you suggested. I know that it must consume a significant amount of your time to compile responses to each of the cases that come across your table and to provide the in depth support that you do. I can only extend my sincere and continued thanks regarding the support, hard work and guidance that you have provided to help continue the fight.

There seems to be bit of a communications blackout with BW Legal and CPM from any contact coming to me. Do you reckon I should chase them up or take it as a good sign that they must be scratching their puny heads for now?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on November 03, 2025, 04:02:30 pm
Yes—add these specifics so the ICO has everything they need and can see the scale of non-compliance.

What to include:

Exact chronology (with dates):
• Alleged contravention: 23/12/2024
• SAR made: 28/08/2025
• Breach occurred: 28/08/2025 (identified 29/08/2025)
• “Breach letter” dated: 29/08/2025 (but not delivered to you)
• Operator’s first notification to you: 13/10/2025
• Note: that’s ~45 days to notify the data subject.

Breach notification timing checks:
• Ask ICO to verify whether CPM notified the ICO within 72 hours of awareness (UK GDPR Art. 33). Require CPM’s ICO reference number and submission date/time.
• They failed to notify you “without undue delay” (UK GDPR Art. 34). Quantify the delay and point out you only learned of it after you challenged their SAR.

Breach notification content gaps (Art. 34(2)):
• Did not promptly provide: nature of breach, likely consequences/risks, measures taken/proposed, steps you should take, and clear DPO contact.
• Their “letter” was not actually served to you (neither to your current address nor electronically), despite them successfully sending other letters to your current address.

Security & governance failures:
• Failure to ensure appropriate technical/organisational measures (UK GDPR Art. 5(1)(f) and Art. 32).
• The breach occurred during a SAR—a high-risk process—suggesting inadequate checking/authorisation workflows.

Incomplete/incorrect SAR (Arts. 12 & 15):
• Omitted BW Legal from the recipient list (Art. 15(1)(c)).
• Withheld/failed to supply personal data you specifically requested (ANPR event log for your VRM; RingGo/VRM back-office references; internal notes; portal/audit logs; DVLA KADOE request/response; any address-verification records).
• Provided a blanket assertion of “lawful deletion” without retention schedule or deletion logs.

Data accuracy concern (Art. 5(1)(d)):
• Final Notice dated 12/05/2025 was sent to your old address despite your DVLA updates being effective well before that date. Ask ICO to examine their address-accuracy process before escalation/third-party sharing.

Harm & risk:
• Distress, anxiety, and risk of misuse due to disclosure of full name, address, phone, email to an unauthorised individual.
• Extra time and cost spent chasing a compliant SAR and correcting their record.
• Ongoing litigation risk worsened by inaccurate processing and late breach notification.

Evidence list (attach):
• CPM email (13/10/2025) + attached “breach letter” dated 29/08/2025.
• Original SAR request (28/08/2025) and CPM’s SAR bundle omitting BW Legal.
• Your follow-up demanding recipients (explicitly naming BW Legal).
• BW Legal letters to your current address (proving they had the correct address).
• Proof of DVLA update timing.
• RingGo receipts/screenshots.
• Any CPM statements about “lawful deletion” and retention (to highlight gaps).

What you want the ICO to do (remedies):
• Require CPM to deliver a complete, compliant SAR (including full recipient/disclosure log and the missing personal data).
• Assess Art. 33/34 compliance (timeliness and content); if late/inadequate, require remedial action.
• Require CPM to implement enhanced SAR handling controls (dual-check before disclosure, audited recipient confirmation, staff retraining) and to evidence those measures to you/ICO.
• Record enforcement as appropriate; consider a formal reprimand.
• (Optional) Note you reserve rights to compensation under Art. 82 UK GDPR and s.168 DPA 2018 for distress.

Here's a draft you could use:

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Subject: Complaint re Countrywide Parking Management Ltd – Late breach notification, incomplete SAR, and data accuracy failures

Dear ICO,

I wish to lodge a complaint against Countrywide Parking Management Ltd (CPM) for multiple breaches of the UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018 in relation to Parking Charge Notice [PCN reference] concerning vehicle [VRM].

Chronology (all dates 2024/2025)
• Alleged contravention: 23/12/2024
• SAR submitted to CPM: 28/08/2025
• Personal data breach occurred: 28/08/2025 (identified by CPM: 29/08/2025)
• CPM “breach letter” dated: 29/08/2025 (not received by me)
• CPM first notified me of the breach: 13/10/2025 (via email)
• CPM’s SAR output omitted BW Legal as a recipient, despite ongoing BW Legal correspondence to my current address.

Issues and legal basis

1. Late and inadequate breach notification (Arts. 34 and 33)
• CPM disclosed my full name, postal address, phone number and email to an unauthorised individual during the SAR process on 28/08/2025, identified 29/08/2025.
• I was not notified until 13/10/2025 (circa 45 days later), which is not “without undue delay” (Art. 34).
• Please verify whether CPM notified the ICO within 72 hours of awareness (Art. 33) and obtain their ICO reference and submission date/time.

2. Security and governance failures (Art. 5(1)(f) and Art. 32)
• The breach occurred during a high-risk process (SAR disclosure), indicating inadequate technical/organisational measures and quality controls.

3. Incomplete/incorrect SAR (Arts. 12 and 15)
• CPM’s SAR response omitted BW Legal from the recipient list (Art. 15(1)(c)) though CPM and BW Legal were actively processing my data.
• CPM failed to provide personal data I requested that clearly relates to me/this PCN:
– ANPR event log for my VRM (reads/timestamps/camera IDs/retention entries)
– RingGo/payment back-office records referencing my VRM/PCN (matching/mismatch notes)
– Internal notes; portal/web-form audit entries; decision records
– DVLA KADOE request/response for this PCN (single request date/time, address returned)
– Any address-verification records referring to me before a Final Notice and before instructing solicitors
• CPM asserted “lawful deletion” but did not supply the applicable retention schedule or deletion logs.

4. Data accuracy and reasonable steps (Art. 5(1)(d))
• A Final Notice dated 12/05/2025 was sent to my former address despite my DVLA updates being effective weeks earlier. By contrast, BW Legal letters have reached my current address. This suggests CPM failed to take reasonable steps to ensure accuracy before escalation and sharing with third parties.

Harm and risk
• Disclosure of my name, address, phone and email to an unauthorised individual caused distress and risk of misuse.
• Additional time and expense incurred to obtain a compliant SAR and correct CPM’s record while facing parallel pre-action correspondence.

What I ask the ICO to do
• Require CPM to provide a complete and accurate SAR response, including a full recipient/disclosure log (identifying BW Legal and the unauthorised recipient with dates, purposes and lawful bases) and the missing personal data listed above, or a specific, justified exemption for each withheld item.
• Assess CPM’s compliance with Arts. 33 and 34 (timeliness and content of notifications) and with Arts. 5(1)(f)/32 (security controls), and require remedial action.
• Require CPM to implement enhanced SAR handling controls (dual checks before disclosure, supervised sign-off, audited recipient confirmation, staff training) and to evidence those measures.
• Record appropriate enforcement.
• Note that I reserve my rights to compensation under Art. 82 UK GDPR and s.168 DPA 2018 for distress.

Attachments (evidence)
• CPM email to me dated 13/10/2025 and attached “breach letter” dated 29/08/2025
• My SAR (28/08/2025) and CPM’s SAR bundle omitting BW Legal as a recipient
• My follow-up correspondence requesting a complete recipient log (explicitly naming BW Legal)
• BW Legal letters to my current address (showing correct address in use)
• Proof of DVLA update timing
• RingGo receipts/screenshots
• CPM statements asserting “lawful deletion” and “full disclosure”

My details
Name: [Full name]
Address: [Current postal address]
Email: [Email]
Phone: [Phone]
Controller: Countrywide Parking Management Ltd (DPO: [if known])
Third parties: BW Legal; Trace Debt Recovery; [unknown unauthorised recipient]

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on November 03, 2025, 02:23:56 pm
Ok will get on with that thank you. Is there anything specific, other than what you’ve already mentioned I should include in the complaint? I.e. they are in breach of the various articles and took too lo my to inform me of their data breach?
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on November 01, 2025, 07:13:02 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on November 01, 2025, 06:33:51 pm
Good evening,

It’s now been over 7 days since I sent the letter to CPM without response. Should I now escalate in the form of sending a complaint to the ICO as you suggested?

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 29, 2025, 10:57:26 am
Ok thank you, sent. Shall return after 7 days/ if they respond before then.

Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on October 24, 2025, 05:48:14 pm
Yes. They're legally obliged to provide you with ANY records that contain your personal information or VRN.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 24, 2025, 03:18:08 pm
Okay understood thank you for clarification regarding the time and date requirement which they omitted.

Should I also maintain they ‟did not include BW Legal as a recipient in their SAR output”? (They did include them in their email which had the SAR output attached, but NOT in the attachment itself).

Sorry for my questions on this I just want to make sure I get it right and they can't come back to me later on and say that I was wrong or misleading.

Thank you.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on October 23, 2025, 08:28:52 pm
Of course you chase them for ALL data they have that references you or your vehicle/address.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 23, 2025, 04:14:54 pm
To clarify one point regarding the above, they did not include the dates and times they sent my data to BW Legal in the document bundle they attached via email, they just stated the fact that they did disclosed to BW Legal in the body off their email reply. There was no date or time associated with that statement however
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 23, 2025, 03:57:36 pm
Thank you I will send this today.

Regarding the incomplete SAR, as mentioned previously they did include BW Legal in their emailed response on 28th August. Should I therefore remove that part of your responses that references that?

If so, should I still however maintain that their SAR still incomplete with regards to articles 12 and 15)(1)(c) because of the following omissions?:


4. Incomplete SAR – missing personal data:
• Full ANPR event log for my VRM for the material period (all reads/timestamps/camera IDs/retention entries).
• RingGo/payment back-office records that reference my VRM/this PCN, including matching/mismatch notes for the material window.
• Internal notes, decision records, and portal/web-form audit logs referencing me/this PCN.
• DVLA KADOE request/response (single request date/time and address returned) and any address-verification/trace records referencing me, particularly before your Final Notice of 12/05/2025 and before instructing solicitors.
• Any data accuracy records explaining continued use of my former address after my DVLA update in early April 2025.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on October 20, 2025, 08:26:46 pm
You have some good leverage there. First, send the following email to Countrywide's DPO and CC yourself:

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Subject: Personal data breach & incomplete SAR – PCN [ref], VRM [VRM] – ICO escalation if not rectified in 7 days

Dear Data Protection Officer,

I acknowledge your email of 13 October 2025 and the attached breach letter dated 29 August 2025.

Personal data breach
You admit there was “an incident in which personal data relating to you was inadvertently disclosed to an unauthorised individual” on 28 August 2025, identified 29 August 2025. You did not notify me until 13 October 2025. That is not “without undue delay” as required by UK GDPR Article 34. The breach also indicates failures under Article 5(1)(f) and Article 32 (integrity/confidentiality and security of processing).

You also omitted BW Legal from the recipient list in your SAR output, despite you and BW Legal actively processing my data. That renders the SAR incomplete and inaccurate (Articles 12 and 15(1)(c)) and undermines your claim that you had “disclosed in full”.

Accordingly, within 7 days please provide:
1. ICO breach report evidence: date/time you notified the ICO; ICO case/reference number; and a copy of the report/online submission (or your full narrative if by phone).
2. Breach particulars (Art. 34 content requirements):
• nature of the breach; precise data items disclosed;
• likelihood and severity of risk to me;
• steps taken by you;
• specific advice to me to mitigate adverse effects;
• the identity and contact details of your DPO.

2. Recipient/disclosure log (corrected): a complete log for this PCN showing all recipients (including BW Legal): identity, categories of data shared, and date/time of each disclosure; the log entry for the unauthorised recipient; and evidence of your “return/deletion” request and confirmation.
4. Incomplete SAR – missing personal data:
• Full ANPR event log for my VRM for the material period (all reads/timestamps/camera IDs/retention entries).
• RingGo/payment back-office records that reference my VRM/this PCN, including matching/mismatch notes for the material window.
• Internal notes, decision records, and portal/web-form audit logs referencing me/this PCN.
• DVLA KADOE request/response (single request date/time and address returned) and any address-verification/trace records referencing me, particularly before your Final Notice of 12/05/2025 and before instructing solicitors.
• Any data accuracy records explaining continued use of my former address after my DVLA update in early April 2025.

5. Retention schedule & deletion evidence: You asserted data may have been “lawfully deleted”. Provide your retention policy as it applies to my data for this PCN and deletion logs for any items you say are no longer held.

If you claim any exemption, identify the specific exemption and explain how it applies to the particular item withheld.

Unless the above is supplied within 7 days, I will file a complaint with the ICO for (i) failure to comply with Articles 12/15, (ii) breach notification failures under Article 34, and (iii) integrity/confidentiality/security failures under Articles 5(1)(f)/32. I also reserve my rights to seek compensation under Article 82 UK GDPR and s.168 DPA 2018 for distress arising from this breach and your non-compliance.

Acknowledge receipt today. All future correspondence must use my current postal address below.

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]
[Current postal address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref] | VRM: [VRM]
Second, send the following to BW Legal and CC yourself:

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Subject: Your ref [BW ref] – Put on hold – Controller breach & data accuracy; Article 14 info required

Dear Sirs,

I dispute the alleged debt. The matter is not ready for litigation.

On 13 October 2025 Countrywide Parking Management (CPM) disclosed to me that on 28 August 2025 they inadvertently disclosed my personal data to an unauthorised individual during a SAR process and only identified it on 29 August 2025. They failed to notify me until 13 October 2025. Their SAR output also omitted BW Legal as a recipient, despite your active use of my data. I have demanded their corrected recipient/disclosure log (including the dates they disclosed my data to you) and their ICO breach report reference.

Given the controller’s admitted breach and SAR inaccuracies, please:
1. Place the matter on hold for 30 days and confirm you will not process further nor issue proceedings until CPM has completed corrective steps and provided the missing disclosure materials.
2. Provide your Article 14 information for this file:
• source of my data and the date first received from CPM;
• categories of personal data processed;
• purposes and lawful bases;
• recipients or categories of recipients;
• retention period for this file.

3. Confirm that all correspondence and any proceedings will be served only at my current address below.

My outstanding PAPDC requests also remain: signage pack/site plan as at 23/12/2024; proof of landowner authority; RingGo integration/payment reconciliation for the material period (including adjacent sites’ codes and change logs); consideration/grace-period policy; and particulars for any sum beyond the principal (the £70 add-on is denied as unrecoverable).

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]
[Current postal address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref] | VRM: [VRM]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 20, 2025, 05:19:13 pm
Good evening,

I have received an email from CPM which I believe includes some possible serious leverage in my favour. (I have not yet heard back from BW Legal since I sent the letter to them on 3rd October, and also from my previous portal submitted letter previously on 28th August)

Interestingly it seems CPM have given my data away 'inadvertently' or as the describe it

an ″incident in which personal data relating to you was inadvertently disclosed to an unauthorised individual″.

I do note that they did not inform me of this on any earlier occasion, only after the previous email you advised me to send advising them they have not correctly completed the SAR.

Below is a copy and paste of their email,

..............................................................................................

″Subject: Re: Subject Access Request (SAR)
 
Dear Mr [xxx],
 
We acknowledge receipt of your correspondence.
 
Following a comprehensive review, we confirm that all personal data currently held by Countrywide Parking Management in relation to you and the referenced Parking Charge Notice has been disclosed in full, up to and including today’s date.
 
For your reference, we have attached the RingGo receipts that were submitted with your original appeal, along with a copy of the letter that was generated on 29/08/25.
 
Please note that our records are maintained in accordance with our data retention policy and statutory obligations. Certain categories of information are retained for a fixed period and are securely purged once that period has expired. As such, data that has been lawfully deleted in line with our retention schedule would no longer be available for disclosure.
 
Having reviewed this matter in full, we are satisfied that we have met all of our obligations and commitments under data protection legislation, and therefore, we are unable to provide any further assistance on this matter.
 
For the avoidance of doubt, you retain the right to raise any concerns with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO).
 
We remain committed to ensuring full compliance with all obligations under the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR) and the Data Protection Act 2018.
 
Kind regards,
Administration Team
Countrywide Parking Management Ltd″


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Please find their data breach letter below which they included as an attachment on their latest email. The email was dated 13th October, the data breach was from 29th August. They never sent the letter to me electronically or to my new address, where other threatening letters from BW Legal have been arriving successfully.

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″29th August 2025

Issue date: 03/01/2025

I am writing to inform you of an incident in which personal data relating to you was inadvertently disclosed to an unauthorised individual.
On 28th August 2025, as part of a Subject Access Request process, we mistakenly shared your personal data, which included your full name, address, contact number and email address, with another individual. The error was identified on 29th August 2025, and we took immediate steps to request the return and secure deletion of the data.

We want to assure you that:
The error was a genuine administrative mistake and not the result of malicious activity.
We have contacted the unintended recipient, who has confirmed that they have deleted the information and will not retain or use it.
We have reported this breach in line with our obligations under the UK GDPR and Data Protection Act 2018.

We recognise the seriousness of this incident and sincerely apologise for the distress this may cause. We have taken the following steps to prevent this from happening again:
Additional staff training on handling Subject Access Requests.

Implementing extra checks to ensure responses are only sent to the correct individual.
If you have any concerns about this matter, please do not hesitate to contact our Data Protection Officer at [insert contact email/phone number]. You also have the right to raise a complaint with the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) should you wish to do so: www.ico.org.uk.

Once again, we apologise for this error and thank you for your understanding.

Yours sincerely,
Benita Excel
Data Protection Officer
Countrywide Parking Management Ltd″

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P.s. I tried to include the attachments on imager as usual but it seems to have been 'blocked' in the U.K. hence why I copied and pasted it.

Thank you in advance.



Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 03, 2025, 07:37:26 am
Thank you, I have sent the letter as you have advised. I did take screenshots so have also included those. I will post again when I have got a response. Thank you once again.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on October 01, 2025, 03:27:47 pm
Send the following letter by post, and include the letter you originally attempted to send. Send it first class and get a free certificate of posting from any post office. You do not have to use signed for/recorded delivery. A certificate of posting is enough to prove deemed delivery.

Quote
[Your full name]
[Your full postal address]
[Your email address]

[Date]

BW Legal
[Their postal address]

Your ref: [XXXX]

FORMAL CHASER & COMPLAINT – PAPDC NON-ENGAGEMENT/REFUSAL TO USE PORTAL

Dear Sirs,

I wrote to you on [insert date]. Over 30 days have elapsed with no substantive response.

Your online portal has been unreliable and live chat returns “technical difficulty” messages. From now on, I will not use any portal. Communication must be in writing by email or post only.

Please confirm a working email address for this matter within 14 days. Failing that, correspondence will proceed by post.

Any postal correspondence you send will be rebuttable on presumption of delivery unless you can evidence proof of posting (e.g. Certificate of Posting or tracked service). It is therefore in your interest to use email where possible.

Please treat this as:
(a) A chaser for a substantive response to my letter of [date] (copy enclosed); and
(b) A formal complaint regarding your failure to engage and to provide a functioning written channel, contrary to the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC).

For the avoidance of doubt, my address for service is:
[Insert full, correct address including building and flat numbers].

If your records differ, rectify them immediately and confirm erasure of any incorrect address data.

Do not commence proceedings until you have provided a PAPDC-compliant, point-by-point response to my letter of [date]. Should you issue regardless, I will rely on this correspondence on costs for unreasonable conduct.

Please reply within 14 days with:
• Your substantive response to the [date] letter; and
• Confirmation of the correct email and postal channels you will use going forward.

Yours faithfully,

[full name]

Enclosures:
• Copy letter dated [date]
• Screenshots: portal/live-chat failures (if available)
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on October 01, 2025, 11:51:30 am
Good morning.

I tried to send the message to BW legal, however their online portal is not working. I then tried to start a live chat and they send an automatic response saying that they’re having technical difficulty so cannot reply. Therefore the only option is to phone them. I’d prefer not to do that way since it’s not written down as evidence.

Also it’s been now over 30 days since I sent the previous letter to BW legal. I have not had a response from them.

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on September 27, 2025, 03:33:05 pm
Just send the email/letter to BW Legal. They are acting on behalf of their client so you do not communicate with CPM from nw on, except to wait for the response to your SAR. If they do not respond to the SAR within 30 days, you report them tot he ICO.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on September 27, 2025, 01:59:36 pm
Apologies with the formatting, when I hear a response I shall endeavour to format post in a clearer way.

I have sent the amended email to CPM. Regarding the BW Legal one, should I wait until I have a response from the previous correspondence I sent to them, before sending the one you have posted above, or just send it in addition before hearing back from them. (It’s been 30 days today since I sent the last correspondence to them and have not yet heard back).

Thank you
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on September 26, 2025, 04:07:49 pm
In which case just remove the bit about failing to show that BW Legal were given your data.

It really would help us if people at least tried to format what they are trying to show us.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on September 26, 2025, 03:53:50 pm
I will send that letter to BW Legal, thank you once again for your time and effort in providing the framework to combat this.

Regarding the letter to CPM. In their email they did state the following (which I have copied and pasted):


“ We have shared your data with the below third parties:
 
Trace Debt Recovery Ltd 2. BW Legal Ltd
             PO Box 1448  Enterprise House
             Northampton  1 Apex View
             NN2 1DW   Leeds
LS11 9BH ”


Before I send the reply to CPM, it appears however from the extract that they have listed BW Legal as a recipient of my personal data. Am I mistaken?

Thank you once again.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on September 24, 2025, 11:20:45 am
Send the following to BW Legal. You may have to use their portal, in which case just upload it as a pdf letter:

Quote
Subject: Countrywide Parking Management Ltd v [Your Name] – Your ref [BW ref] – PAPDC disclosure + Article 14 request

Dear Sirs,

I dispute the alleged debt. This matter is not ready for litigation. Please place it on hold for 30 days and provide the documents and information below so the issues can be narrowed, per the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC).

Core documents needed (PAPDC):

a) Signage pack and site plan for 20–28 Cotlands Road (as at 23/12/2024), including entrance and terms signage and installation/inspection dates.
b) Proof of landowner authority/contract showing Countrywide Parking Management Ltd’s standing (parties, dates, term, the right to issue and to litigate—commercial rates may be redacted).
c) RingGo integration/payment reconciliation for the material period, including location codes for all adjacent/related sites (Cotlands Road; Cotlands Road Overflow; 20–28 Cotlands Road), any change logs, and reconciliation for my VRM/time window to evidence payment/misdirected payment.
d) Your client’s consideration/grace-period policy in force on the material date.
e) The particulars your client relies on to justify any sum beyond the headline charge. For the avoidance of doubt, the £70 add-on is denied as unrecoverable/double recovery; please confirm any claim will be limited to principal, court fee, and fixed legal costs only.

Address accuracy & service:

Your client sent a Final Notice dated 12/05/2025 to my previous address despite my DVLA updates being effective well before that date. Confirm in writing that all correspondence and any proceedings will be served only at my current address below. Any attempt to serve elsewhere will be opposed as unreasonable and contrary to PAPDC.

Your data handling (UK GDPR Article 14):

Please confirm, for this file:

• the source of my personal data (controller identity and the date first received from your client);
• categories of personal data processed;
• purposes and lawful bases;
• recipients or categories of recipients to whom you have disclosed my data;
• your retention period for this matter.

SAR inconsistency (for the record):

Your client’s SAR output failed to list BW Legal as a recipient of my data, despite your active use of it. I have required your client to correct this and produce a full disclosure log (recipients, dates, purposes, lawful bases). Please ensure your disclosure to me aligns with the corrected log.

Until you provide the above, I am unable to complete the PAPDC Standard Financial Statement or respond on liability/quantum beyond the dispute already stated.

Yours faithfully,

[Full name]

[Current postal address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref]
VRM: [VRM]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on September 24, 2025, 10:55:38 am
Respond to the DPO with the following email (and CC yourself):

Quote
Subject: Incomplete SAR – You omitted BW Legal from the recipient list (PCN [ref], VRM [VRM])

Dear Data Protection Officer,

Your SAR response (received 28 August 2025) is not complete. You’ve failed to list BW Legal as a recipient of my personal data, even though you (and BW Legal) are actively using my data in live pre-action correspondence. That omission is blatant. It renders your disclosure inaccurate and incomplete under UK GDPR Articles 12 and 15.

Fix it. Here’s what you will provide, in full, within the statutory deadline (28 September 2025):

A complete disclosure/recipient log for this PCN showing all recipients — including BW Legal — with:

• identity of recipient;
• categories of personal data disclosed;
• date/time of each disclosure;
• purpose and lawful basis.

DVLA KADOE audit trail for this PCN: date/time of the single DVLA request, the address returned, and any subsequent address-verification/trace records that refer to me, especially before your Final Notice dated 12/05/2025 and before instructing solicitors.

The personal data you withheld despite my request:

• Full ANPR event log for my VRM for the material period (all reads/timestamps/camera IDs/retention entries).
• RingGo/payment look-ups and back-office records referencing my VRM/PCN (matching/mismatch notes for the material window).
• Internal notes, decision records, and portal/web-form audit logs referencing me/this PCN.
• Any data accuracy records explaining why you used my former address after my DVLA update in early April 2025.
• Your retention schedule as applied to my personal data for this PCN.

If you want to claim an exemption, name the specific exemption and explain how it applies to the precise item withheld. Do not fob me off with generic boilerplate.

You’ve already pushed my data to BW Legal, yet pretended otherwise in your SAR pack. That is unacceptable. If you do not correct this and supply the missing data by 28 September 2025, I will file an ICO complaint for failure to comply with Articles 12/15 and for data accuracy breaches (Art. 5(1)(d)). I will include your contradictory disclosures and timeline.

Acknowledge receipt today. Send the corrected SAR output to this email and use my current postal address below for all future correspondence.

[Full name]

[Current postal address]
[Email]
PCN: [ref]
VRM: [VRM]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: mickR on September 23, 2025, 06:09:46 pm
what location is on the sign in the pic they supplied?
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on September 23, 2025, 05:54:42 pm
Hi, thank you for your message.

Sorry for the lengthy reply, I have written below what they sent to me in text form since otherwise I would be anonymising a large file before uploading images, however if it would be more helpful to have the information in the original form I will go ahead and do that).

This is the response I received from CPM (it was sent to me 33 mins after my message requesting the data).

...................................................................................................

"We write in response to a Subject Access Request that we received on 28th August 2025.
 
As per your request, please find enclosed all of the personal data, photographic evidence, and correspondence that we hold on our secure systems.
 
You will also be aware that we have passed all of the information provided within this SAR to our Debt Recovery Agents and solicitors to pursue Parking Charge(s) that remain outstanding. We notify Drivers and Keepers of our intention to share your personal information on both our ‘Notice to Driver’ and ‘Notice to Keeper’ letters.
 
We have shared your data with the below third parties:
 
Trace Debt Recovery Ltd 2. BW Legal Ltd
             PO Box 1448  Enterprise House
             Northampton  1 Apex View
             NN2 1DW   Leeds
LS11 9BH
 
Please note, should you require SAR from the below parties, you must contact them directly to request this.
 
We will hold the enclosed information until any outstanding Parking Charge(s) in relation to the above vehicle have been settled.
 
If you have any further data-related requests or concerns, please contact us by either writing to us or emailing dp@countrywideparking.co.uk. Otherwise, we consider our duties in relation to your SAR to be met and you should now direct any further correspondence in relation to any outstanding Parking Charges to our solicitors, BW Legal Ltd.
 
Yours sincerely"

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The additional information they added in a zip file was as follows:

"Generated on: 20/08/2025 09:36 AM
Enforcer :Countrywide Parking Management Ltd
PCN: CPM755149
[my name, address, tel no, email]
Type: Driver
Source: Appeal
VRM: [my number plate]
Make/ model/ colour (all correct)
Contravention date: 23/12/2024 16:56 PM
Site: 20-28 Cotland´s Road"

"CONTACT HISTORY
ID [a 6 digit number]
[my name, address]
Type: Keeper
Source: DVLA"

Then there are a series of photos of my vehicle entering the car park, leaving the car park - displaying my number plate.

Then there are a number of attachments, as follows:
1) An image of the ringo sign with location number and the terms and conditions
2) Final notice letter (12/05/2025) addressed to my previous address where I left on 30/04/2025. I submitted my application with my new address on 31/03/2025 for my new licence and V5C owner certificate, and received them both 2 weeks later, well before that letter from CPM was issued - is this something I could use to exploit against them?
3) The rejection reply to the appeal which I submitted, dated 11/02/2025
4) Another Image of the Ringo app location number and the terms and conditions
5) The appeal I submitted on 17/01/2025, which has a note: ´Driver was the elected choice´
6) Original notice to keeper dated 03/01/2025



That is all the information they provided. As far as I can make out then they did not provide the following, which was asked for:
a) ANPR Logs
b) Ringo/ payment look-ups and reconsolidating
c) Call/ portal logs
d) Internal notes
e) DVLA request/ response
f) site plan
g) contract/ policies relating to this site

Thank you in advance
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on September 11, 2025, 01:33:45 pm
s there anything in the SAR info they have sent you that is not clear? Can you see anything where they have failed to properly advance this, based on your account of what has happened?
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on September 11, 2025, 12:48:50 pm
Good Afternoon,

I received a response from CPM which has the information they have in me and who they’ve passed it on to. I also submitted a query to BW Legal with the information you provided. I have yet to hear back from BW Legal regarding the letter I sent to them via their online platform, as of yet however.

I did since receive another physical letter asking for money from them dated 28/08, the same day I submitted the query.

Is there anything in the interim I should do?

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on August 27, 2025, 08:24:36 am
Thank you so much for your help, I will reply with the information provided.

Thank you for the continued support with this - these guys have certainly got persistence, it´s only been 9 months they have been trying to get money out of me!...

Cheers!
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on August 26, 2025, 01:29:08 pm
Respond to the LoC with he following:

Quote
Subject: Countrywide Parking Management Ltd v [Keeper/Driver name] – Your Ref [xxx] – PAPDC Response (Disputed)

Date: [today]

I dispute the alleged debt in full.

Background: On 23 December 2024 I arrived at 20–28 Cotlands Road, Bournemouth. Your client mandates app-only payment. Using RingGo, the in-app map presented only a single nearby option, “Cotlands Road” (code 59037), and did not display “20–28 Cotlands Road” or “Cotlands Road Overflow”. The code stated on your client’s paperwork (819627) either could not be located via search or mapped to a point in the mid-Atlantic; exporting to Google Maps returned “no location found”. I paid promptly using the only surfaced car park. Payment was therefore made and any alleged breach stems from your client’s defective payment journey and signage, not from consumer fault.

Legal position:

1. Any term requiring use of a specific code was not transparent or prominent (CRA 2015 ss 62, 68). The mandated app did not surface the site and mis-geolocated the code.
2. Your client failed to exercise professional diligence, and the presentation of material information was misleading by omission (CPUTR 2008 regs 3, 5–6).
3. No contract was formed to pay a charge for a “wrong location” where the requirement could not reasonably be known at the decision point (Thornton; Beavis signage tests).
4. In the alternative, performance was frustrated by your client’s own system design.
5. The £70 “debt recovery” add-on is unrecoverable in law; if pleaded I will seek strike-out (CPR 3.4/27.14) and costs for unreasonable conduct.

Documents required under the Protocol (please supply within 30 days):

a) The contract (unredacted) showing your client’s authority at 20–28 Cotlands Road on 23/12/2024.
b) The full signage pack and site plan in place on the material date (entrance and terms boards), with proof of installation dates.
c) The RingGo integration pack for this site: location codes, geo-fencing, and any change logs; plus RingGo back-office logs showing all sessions and look-ups by my VRM and device in the hour spanning the event.
d) The payment reconciliation for the material hour (so the court can see payment was made at the only surfaced location).
e) All ANPR images, logs and syncing data; and your client’s policy on consideration/grace periods.
f) A copy of the Notice to Driver/Notice to Keeper and all correspondence.
g) A calculation and legal basis for any sum beyond the principal charge (you are put on notice that the £70 add-on is denied as an abuse of process).

Until you provide the above, the claim is not ready for litigation. Please place the matter on hold for 30 days in accordance with the PAPDC while these documents are supplied. Should you issue regardless, I will invite the court to apply sanctions for non-compliance and will defend.

Yours faithfully,

[Name]

[Postal address and email]

Also, send the following to the Countrywide DPO:

Quote
Subject: Data Subject Access Request – [VRM], PCN [ref], 23/12/2024

Under UK GDPR and DPA 2018, please provide all personal data you hold relating to me and the above event, including: ANPR images and logs; RingGo/payment look-ups and reconciliation; call/portal logs; internal notes; DVLA request/response; the full signage pack and site plan relied upon; and your contracts/policies relating to this site.

Please also confirm the origin of the £70 “debt recovery” figure and all third parties with whom my data has been shared.

[Name, address, email, proof of ID]
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on August 26, 2025, 11:37:44 am
Good morning,

I received the "Letter of Claim" from a company called "BW Legal" on behalf of "Countrywide Parking Management Limited". The letter has given me a deadline of 06/09/2025 to reply to them. The balance they have stated remains at the moment at £170.

Any assistance of how to proceed is very much appreciated.

The link below has the letter uploaded:
https://imgur.com/a/QhrL67A
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on June 05, 2025, 03:07:28 pm
Understood, will do. Now **blocked. Will update in due course.

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on June 03, 2025, 10:59:49 pm
Understood, will do. Now booked. Will update in due course.

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on June 03, 2025, 08:33:39 pm
Block all calls and texts from BW Legal. You've already been advised that your IAS appeal was a wasted effort. There is nothing more you can do for now except to wait for the inevitable Letter of Claim (LoC) which is going to come from BW Legal in their capacity as a bulk litigator, not as a debt collector.

When you receive the LoC, come back and show us and we will provide a suitable response.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on June 03, 2025, 08:22:18 pm
Good evening,

I received as expected a reject letter of appeal from the ÍAS´on 13 March stating they dismiss my appeal (as advised by the forum). I am now receiving telephone calls, text messages and and emails from ´BW Legal´demanding the sum of £170.

I haven´t replied to either the IAS or the these ´BW Legal´ characters, the only time I spoke to the,m was the first phone call when I didn´t know who they were, they asked me for my address to pass ´security checks´ to which I said, on the phone, words to the effect of I do not give out personal details over the phone.

I have attached the ´IAS´email and the communications from ´BW Legal´ for review.

If anyone has any advice on how to proceed, would be much appreciated.

https://imgur.com/a/2D96QpB


 
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on March 31, 2025, 02:16:45 pm
Without knowing precisely what you sent as your appeal in the first place, it is impossible to advise except that if you are adamant that you are in the right, you can ignore any appeal rejection and you now wait and see if/when they decide to make a claim in the county court.

You can safely ignore all debt recovery letters. Debt collectors are powerless to actually do anything except try and make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree pay up out of ignorance and fear. Never, ever, communicate with a useless debt collector. Ignore Tham and we don't need to know about any useless letters you get from them.

If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) or an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC, come back and we can advise further.

You could query why they have not complied with Annex F.1 or F.3 of the PPSCoP (https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/NEW%20Redesigned%20Documents/sectorsingleCodeofPractice.pdf) and either cancelled the charge for a "minor keying error or singly reduced it to £20 for a major keying error.
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on March 31, 2025, 10:18:53 am
Good morning,

I have heard back from the ´Independent Appeals Service´ regarding the subject in this feed, who have, as you expected, ´dismissed´ my appeal. I still believe I was not in the wrong, could you please advise on what I should do next - if anything? My plan was to effectively ignore any further letters or emails unless they're from any authoritative body, since there doesn´t seem to be any appeal options left.

Here´s a summary of what they said, for interest:

..................................................................................................

"The Appellant challenges the parking charge on the basis that the driver paid for parking however it would appear from the comments made and evidence provided that they did not enter the sites location code correctly when making payment. I am satisfied that it is the driver's responsibility to ensure that the terms of parking are properly complied with. Signs are located throughout the site making clear the terms of parking at the location. Whether a driver feels that they have permission to park or not, the contractual terms require the driver to pay for parking using the correct location code and by not ensuring that their location was entered correctly when making payment they agree to pay the charge.

As the guidance to this appeal explains I am bound by the law of contract and cannot consider mistakes or extenuating circumstances, only legal challenges. It would appear that the payment systems were working correctly at all material times and simply that an error was made by the Appellant in not entering their location details correctly when making payment. I am satisfied that no payment was made for the vehicle registered XXXX on the day in question at this location. I appreciate that mistakes can be made, however, as the guidance to this appeal explains I have no discretion. The terms of parking have been breached by the Appellant as they did not ensure that their correct location was entered at the time payment was made and accordingly this appeal is dismissed."

..................................................................................................


Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on February 21, 2025, 10:51:27 am
Since the second round of appeal also requires keeper of the vehicle to be identified, and an appeal cannot be made without selecting this option, do you think it would be more harmful to my case later on if I selected keeper and submitted the appeal, rather than not appealing the 2nd time at all?

Thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on February 21, 2025, 09:34:25 am
Thank you for the response,

Unfortunately I believe was required to make the driver ´selection´on their first round of appealing, so I am afraid that golden ticket will have been blown. I will continue to challenge them for the sake of due process however will go all the way because it´s a problem with their interface on the app (which motorists are forced to use due to their lack of investment in ticket machines).

I´ll update as and when I hear back from them.

Many thanks
Title: Re: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: b789 on February 19, 2025, 02:47:39 pm
Whilst you have documented very clearly what has happened, it will not make one iota of difference. You are dealing with an ex-clamper who is out scam you. They are a member of the IPC, a breakaway organisation from the BPA set up by a couple of solicitors with extremely dubious reputations and their only remit is to protect their cabal of members from having to deal with the hoy polloi of gullible motorist victims.

Your secondary appeal will be a waste of time and effort. The IAS is not quite as "independent" as you may think. Check out the company directors of both the IPC and the IAS and don't be surprised at what you find out. The IAS is a kangaroo court and any appeal has less than 4% chance of being successful. However, if you insist, fill your boots.

I don't know whether you have identified the Keeper as the driver in your initial appeal, but if you have, you threw away a perfectly good appeal and, more importantly, legal defence, where this is eventually going to end up. Why? The Notice to Keeper (NtK) was not fully compliant with all the requirements of PoFA because it was not "given" within the relevant period according to paragraph 9(4)(b).

What that meant was that as long as the drivers identity is not revealed, they cannot transfer liability from the unknown driver to the known Keeper. There is no legal obligation on the known Keeper to identify the unknown driver to an unregulated private parking company. The known Keeper and the unknown driver are separate legal entities.

The only way that the operator could identify the Keeper as the driver is if the Keeper blabs it to them, inadvertently or otherwise with silly statements along the lines of "I parked her for there" instead of only referring to the driver in the third person with "The driver parked here or there". The secret is not to tell 'em your name Pike!

So, if you've identified the driver, the "golden ticket" defence is blown. If you haven't, then keep your power dry as it will come in handy if this ever gets litigated on. However, don't worry too much because, even when they eventually issue a debt claim, the odds of it ever reaching a hearing are less than 1%. In most cases that we advise on, the claim is either struck out or discontinued.

No one who is here receiving advice and following it, pays a penny to ex-clampers like Countrywide.
Title: Parking charge notice, 20-28 Cotland´s Road, Bournemouth countrywide parking: Failure to pay, 25 min
Post by: Mark_Fletch13 on February 19, 2025, 12:56:42 pm
Good afternoon,

I´ve had a ticket through from Countrywide Parking and would like if someone could cast an eye over my proposed second appeal and perhaps offer some guidance or supporting arguments that I can add. My first round appeal was rejected by them, so now am onto the second round appeal.

The long and short of it is that I parked in a car park for a quick drop off, saw the signs for ANPR and the associated camera, and went to purchase a ticket.

Due to Countrywide Parking cost saving techniques and decision not to install a pay machine, I was forced to have to use and app - one of the options for which was “Ringo”.

I then went about downloading the app and inputting my details and card details in order to register, following confirmation email links and the like and eventually was in a position to locate the car park in question.

From previous experience on other apps such as “pay to park” app, it’s usually easier to find associated car parks using the map function, since the codes they use aren’t always searchable. Therefore I went on the map function, pressed the arrow to focus on in my current position, and then found “Cotlands Road” car park. This was the only car park in the vicinity of where I was showing up on the map.

This process took me 11 minutes to achieve, due to the arduous enrolment process and also patchy mobile signal coverage in the area.

I then got an unexpected letter through the post demanding a sum of £100.00, discounted to £60.00 of course if paid within 14 days of the letter.

Since this was an unexpected arrival, I did some investigation work into what happened as I was under the impression that I was paid up and parked in accordance with their rules. I’d assumed it was the 11 minutes it took to have the ticket issued from first arrival into the car park, however that was not their reasoning. They said I did not have a ticket for their car park “20-28 Cotland´s Road”, but rather I had one for “Cotland´s Road” which is different car park nearby.

As it turns out the map function of Ringo does not have the 3 car parks in the immediate vicinity (20-28 Cotland´s Road, Cotland´s Road and Cotland´s Road Overflow) listed, just Cotland´s Road which is located to the North East of the car park. In fact if you search in the car park code specifically 819627, the map goes to a location somewhere over the mid-atlantic along the equator. Also if you use the function to extract to google maps, there is “no location found”.

(In the evidence folder I have included a screenshot in situ whilst physically stood in 20-28 Cotland´s Road, and another screenshot as proof that the app map function only has the Cotlands Road Car park (59037) shown to the North East).

Being that this particular car park is in Bournemouth, it seems unreasonable to me for the motorist to be able to deduce whether they should go for the only car park listed on the map in the vicinity (with almost the exact same name as the one in question, bar the 20-28 numbers at the front), or the car park in the mid-atlantic but with the correct code. At best it’s a 50/50 choice, and for me the one in the middle of the ocean seemed like the most risky option since it appeared to not exist, hence I went with Cotland´s Road.

I will be writing words to this effect to the 2nd round appeal process and would appreciate any additional arguments. I´ve attached the relevant documents to the file associated for consideration. I have also included some images from the adjacent council car park Cotland´s Road, although didn’t take any of the third car park around the corner Cotland´s Road Overflow as I didn’t think it would bring anything additional to the table.



Many Thanks

https://imgur.com/a/20-28-cotland-s-roads-U14vZ21