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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Fazzy on February 17, 2025, 05:18:41 pm
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Thanks Incandescent.
Here's the map view of the location.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cz2uYy4nZPfmwc7n7
Well, having now seen the location, and looked at the video, I reckon you were in the bus lane for over 67 metres, or 73 yards and their video shows you charging past already in the bus lane so it may be more. This is way, way, over any possibility of a de minimis argument.
So you are back to a 'technical' appeal argument, which I pass on to others more experienced in holding TfL's hand to the fire. Funny, isn't it, that in none of the videos I've seen of cars in bus lanes, one never, ever , sees a bus in them !
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Thanks Incandescent.
Here's the map view of the location.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cz2uYy4nZPfmwc7n7
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The first thing that comes to mind is that the location given on the PCN is not specific enough. However, you've told us you drive along this road, (and beside the bus lane) four times a day, so would be reasonably aware where the alleged contravention took place.
So as you are familiar with the location, please post up a GSV link to the bus lane concerned.
As well as the contravention, there have been serious issues with TfL management of the enforcement process such that appeals have been won on that basis, rather than refuting the alleged contravention
So wait a bit until those expert in these matters respond. As for your reason for entering the bus lane, this is mitigation, so could not be considered at London Tribunals.
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Hi all,
I need advice again. we have this bus route next to our home. Its a route we take minimum 4 times back and forth doing the school runs every day and avoid using bus lane or getting a ticket. On this occasion, 12 year old was dying to pee, so my husband overtook right at the end of the bus lane to get into the left lane to exit the roundabout. Is there any chance of appeal with these grounds? I received a ticket for my car on this spot when they first introduced this camera a good few years ago and I appealed by sending in the bus lane camera template that was provided on pepipoo and the PCN was cancelled but things have changed I'm sure since that.
Please kindly advice.
Full PCN here: https://ibb.co/84gD2V8w
The Video received from TFL here on 13/2/25: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/624oltzz0zy5t562tt0az/3446239.mkv?rlkey=nt189xclyu2xsmnqccy6yb1ve&st=k7qeb4o8&dl=0
Thank you.
From TfL site (Called twice to chase the video):
28 January 2025On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received
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24 October 2024On Hold: SUS20 - Enquiry Received
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15 October 2024PCN Batched
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