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Title: Re: Councils force enforcement officers to issue PCN's
Post by: stamfordman on February 16, 2025, 05:58:55 pm

Quote from: andy_foster on February 16, 2025, 12:53:27 pm

In principle, quotas or bonuses for enforcement are contrary to the principles of natural justice, but natural justice went out the window the moment they allowed local authorities to issue tickets and keep the revenue.

We probably have more process in place for natural justice for PCNs than most countries.
What is against people on the receiving end is complexity, which is more a function of lawmakers.
There are some authorities who abuse their responsibility but I'd say they are a small minority and incompetence is more likely.

Title: Re: Councils force enforcement officers to issue PCN's
Post by: Hippocrates on February 16, 2025, 01:42:30 pm

I discovered this pertaining to Hammersmith and Fulham some years back:

BANTER!

· Another record for us. Well done all

· ....good month last month. That’s despite the system problems we had. So well done everyone

· The late shift PCNs helped matters, so well done everyone

· Hand F: Office Banter

· The e-mails show enthusiastic staff dedicated to doing a good job, chatting amongst themselves.

· .....a worrying start as PCNs seem to reduce

· We may get a negative hit on the U turn tickets for this month

· To the Head of Parking Services: Dave asked me to project management the procurement...of specialist...close circuit TV equipment. Aim of project: To increase parking revenue. Target: Additional £5 million.

· H and F: Wrong and from a management trainee temporarily seconded to the Council.

· The e-mails do not represent the council’s formal approach to enforcement or demonstrate a “culture” of revenue raising.

· Hi Dave. I think the FOI team need a rap across the knuckles.

· Deputy Head of Parking to Mayor: If you receive any PCNs please send an e-mail to me about it and I’ll deal with it.

· Re impact assessment: we do not have that information.

· The council holds information about traffic flow in the Borough, but not the relationship between traffic flow and CCTV.

· Before we started enforcing some drivers knew they could get away with blocking junctions or driving in a bus lane. They now know that they will get a penalty charge.

Title: Re: Councils force enforcement officers to issue PCN's
Post by: andy_foster on February 16, 2025, 12:53:27 pm

In principle, quotas or bonuses for enforcement are contrary to the principles of natural justice, but natural justice went out the window the moment they allowed local authorities to issue tickets and keep the revenue.

Title: Re: Councils force enforcement officers to issue PCN's
Post by: stamfordman on February 16, 2025, 11:37:08 am

I don't see this as 'forcing' - there are always plenty of vehicles in contravention so it's not unreasonable to task CEOs with finding them to serve traffic management purposes.

Title: Councils force enforcement officers to issue PCN's
Post by: Korting on February 16, 2025, 12:04:47 am

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