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General discussion => News / Press Articles => Topic started by: DancingDad on September 10, 2023, 03:16:03 pm

Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: andy_foster on October 08, 2023, 01:34:43 pm

If you are "caught" speeding by a policeman (or even Doris from across the road) driving a panda car with an ordinary speedo that can over-read by up to 10%, following you at a reasonably constant distance, above what tolerance could a court be certain beyond any reasonable doubt that you were actually speeding?

Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: tonys on October 08, 2023, 08:00:50 am

I've often wondered why the threshold is so high particularly at higher speeds. No competent driver would be doing 78 mph without being well aware they're exceeding 70, so what is that tolerance intended to allow for?

It's not really the same at lower speeds, exceeding 23 in a 20 limit or whatever threshold they use in 15.

Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: DancingDad on September 12, 2023, 04:24:00 pm

It does seem that many authorities are taking an alternative approach rather then relying on enforcement of existing limits
They are simply reducing them

Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: The Rookie on September 12, 2023, 02:28:42 pm

These same authors once called for the dropping of the 14 day requirement for NIPs as the Police couldn't always trace the DRIVER in time to serve it.
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Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: cp8759 on September 11, 2023, 01:25:48 am

I can't see either of the major parties taking this up so I'm not too concerned. I suspect the authors of the report know that too.

Title: Re: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: andy_foster on September 10, 2023, 03:53:38 pm

Clearly the way to improve road safety for cyclists and pedestrians is to recite the mantra "Speed kills" and tell vulnerable road users that it is drivers, not them who are responsible for their safety.

But lets not concern ourselves with unregistered, unlicensed, uninsured and non-compliant with just about all C&U regulations mechanically propelled vehicles that routinely drive on pavements with no regard for stupid pedestrians who fail to get out of their way (e-scooters and e-bikes), or even the proportion of e-bikes that are complaint with the exemptions.

Obviously a "pedestrian and cyclists" group will deliver a balanced view on all road users, particularly motorists as they are "all party".

Can anyone name an approved speed detection device with a claimed accuracy better than +/- 2kph?

Obviously as speed limits are set for sound and well considered reasons, and even 1mph over the limit should be prosecuted (regardless of whether or not it can be reliably measured) because it defeats the sound technical purpose of setting the limit at that number, the fact that speed limits are always multiples of 10 is just a coincidence.

Title: MPs and Peers want zero otlerance on speeding
Post by: DancingDad on September 10, 2023, 03:16:03 pm

Daily Mail so make of it what you will
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12501365/Group-MPs-peers-says-drivers-fined-going-just-1mph-speed-limit.html