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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: rjcbooth666 on February 11, 2025, 10:52:50 am

Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on September 29, 2025, 03:03:55 pm
Send the lease, but add a clear cover note explaining that Places for People (PfP) is acting as the landlord’s agent and has already adopted the complaint under its Housing Ombudsman-linked procedure. The Ombudsman’s remit can cover a landlord via its appointed managing agent; your complaint is about PfP/RMG’s handling, not about UKCPS directly.

What to attach
1. Your original formal complaint to RMG/PfP.
2. Your lease (showing the parties and your parking right).
3. Evidence tying PfP/RMG to the estate management and to this complaint:
• RMG’s published complaints procedure stating “RMG customers on developments RMG manages for Places for People will have their complaints dealt with under Places for People’s complaints process which the Housing Ombudsman oversees.”
• Stage 1 and Stage 2 responses (including Michelle Wood’s letter on behalf of Places for People).
• The latest “clarification” email from Jessica.
• Any service-charge/estate-charge demands or communications showing PfP/RMG acting for the landlord/freeholder in relation to the car park/common parts.

How to “play it” since RMG isn’t named in the lease
Make it explicit that:
• The lease is between you and [freeholder/landlord named in lease].
• Places for People Group Limited (through its agent RMG) has been appointed after grant of lease to manage the estate/common parts including the car park and has handled your complaint as “the landlord” under the PfP complaints process.
• Your complaint is therefore about the landlord’s handling (via its agent), not about UKCPS per se.

Send the following response to Saber Uddin:

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Subject: Case 202513367 – Further documents and clarification of landlord/agent role

Dear Mr Uddin,

Thank you for your email. Please find attached:
1. My initial formal complaint submitted to Places for People/RMG.
2. A copy of my lease.
3. Evidence demonstrating Places for People’s role and adoption of this complaint under its Housing Ombudsman-linked procedure:
– RMG’s complaints procedure confirming that complaints on developments managed for Places for People are handled under Places for People’s complaints process overseen by the Housing Ombudsman.
– Stage 1 and Stage 2 responses, including the final response signed by Michelle Wood (Director of Home Ownership, Places for People).
– The subsequent email from the Property Manager (RMG) confirming management of the estate car park and the position taken on the PCN.

For clarity, my lease is between me and [name of freeholder/landlord shown in the lease]. Places for People (through its agent RMG) was appointed subsequently to manage the estate/common parts including the car park. Places for People has adopted and determined my complaint under its own complaints process that is overseen by the Housing Ombudsman, and issued the landlord’s final response.

My complaint is therefore about the landlord’s (Places for People’s) handling of my reports and its management of its appointed contractor and agents in relation to my leasehold right to park, rather than a complaint about UKCPS directly.

Please let me know if you require any further documents.

Yours sincerely,

[Your name]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on September 29, 2025, 01:32:20 pm
So the ombudsman has gotten back to me. They are reviewing whether my complaint is within their remit to investigate.

They are asking me for a copy of the original formal complaint, which I have. However, they are also asking me for a copy of my leasehold to confirm there is a leaseholder/freeholder relationship between me and RMG places for people.

RMG are not mentioned in my lease. They were not even contracted when I received my lease. How should I play this do you think?

Thanks as always for any help you can offer. Email is included below.

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Complaint: 202513367 - Places for People Group Limited
Landlord complaint reference: 04108974
 
I am writing to you in relation to the above case and complaint you have raised with your landlord.
 
I am the Dispute resolution Advisor recently assigned to your case at Dispute Support.
 
I am currently reviewing your case file and the information provided. I really do appreciate your patience while I look into your case.
 
The complaint
 
In summary, I understand the complaint is about the landlord’s handling of reports of a parking ticket being issued in 2023 and the subsequent escalation and involvement of a debt recovery company.
 
More Information required
 
I am currently reviewing whether your complaint is within our remit to consider under our Scheme rules. Please can you provide the following information:
 
.  A copy of the initial formal complaint submitted to Places for People
 
. A copy of the leasehold agreement which confirms there is a leasehold/freehold relationship between you and Places for People
 
Once received, I will review and advise further.
 
Please note that the Housing Ombudsman will only be in position to investigate complaints in relation to the actions of the landlord who is a member of our Scheme. We are not able to investigate the actions or complaints you have against UKCPS itself. We are aware you would have a procedure available to you to dispute the parking charge notice with the parking management company, or with the debt recovery company it has been referred to. I would recommend you seek independent legal advice on the matter so you are fully informed on your options.


Yours sincerely
 
Saber Uddin
Dispute Resolution Adviser
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on August 12, 2025, 05:31:50 pm
Amazing, thank you.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on August 12, 2025, 05:05:39 pm
That reply from RMG is an attempted face-saving exercise, but it’s legally hollow and still doesn’t deal with the core problem — the fact that the “permit scheme” is not optional in practice and is being used to penalise leaseholders despite their lease rights.

The contradictions in their response are quite stark:

• They say the scheme is “not intended” to override your lease rights, but in your case it has already done exactly that — a PCN was issued to you while you were exercising your right to park in your own space.
• They claim it’s “not a variation” of the lease, but then assert you must comply with the scheme to avoid PCNs. That is imposing a condition on your leasehold right, regardless of whether they label it a “practical measure.”
• They’re still avoiding the core legal reality that UKCPS acts as their agent, meaning RMG always retains the power to instruct them to cancel a PCN — whether it’s at “debt recovery” stage or not.
• They are conflating “site management” with enforcement against a leaseholder — it’s one thing to deter unauthorised parking, another entirely to fine the very people whose rights they claim to be protecting.

You should respond to RMG’s latest email, but keep it short, factual, and on the record, because:

• The Ombudsman will review all correspondence — so it’s useful to clearly point out, in writing, that their latest position is still contradictory and fails to resolve the core issue.
• You don’t want to get into a drawn-out back-and-forth — just one concise reply noting their continued failure and that the matter is now with the Ombudsman.
• It prevents RMG later claiming you accepted their position or failed to dispute any part of it.

I suggest you respond to RMG with the following:

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Dear Jessica,

Thank you for your response.

While I note your assurance that the permit scheme is “not intended” to override my leasehold rights, the fact remains that it has done exactly that in practice — a PCN was issued to me while I was exercising my right to park in my own space, which is unconditional under my lease.

Your position is contradictory: you state that the scheme is not a variation of my lease, yet you also require compliance with it to avoid PCNs. This is, in effect, the imposition of a new condition on my leasehold right, and is exactly the interference I have raised from the outset.

I also note that you continue to assert that the PCN cannot be cancelled because it has been passed to your contractor’s own agents. This demonstrates either a misunderstanding of the basic principal–agent relationship in contract law or a refusal to exercise your authority as principal.

As this matter is now with the Housing Ombudsman, I will not enter into further debate with you directly. This response is simply to confirm that I do not accept your position and to preserve a clear record for the Ombudsman’s review.

Yours sincerely

[Your Name]

The Housing Ombudsman has accepted your case for further assessment, but it’s in their backlog. This means:

• You’ve already cleared the procedural hurdle (final landlord response received).
• They will now review the papers and decide whether to investigate.
• If they do investigate, they’ll be looking at whether RMG’s actions amount to maladministration or service failure, particularly in how they handled the PCN in light of your lease rights.

At this point, your best move is to prepare a concise evidence pack for when the Ombudsman contacts you, so you can hit them with a clear narrative:

1. Lease clause showing your unconditional right to park in your space.
2. PCN evidence showing it was issued while you were exercising that right.
3. RMG’s statements:
• Jessica’s “irrespective of entitlement to park” email.
• Stage 1 & Stage 2 responses admitting they won’t intervene if it’s at debt recovery stage.
• Their latest “we recognise your right but still expect you to comply” contradiction.
4. Your core argument: The scheme is interfering with your rights in practice, regardless of their stated “intention.”
5. Legal references: Primacy of contract, agency law, and s.37 LTA 1987.

You can also include a timeline along these lines to include with your evidence that you will submit to the Ombudsman when they review your case. Something along these lines:

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Housing Ombudsman Evidence Pack – Complaint Ref: 202513367

Complainant: [Your Name]
Landlord/Agent: Places for People Group Limited (via RMG)
Managing Agent’s Contractor: UKCPS Ltd
Complaint Subject: Improper enforcement of a private parking scheme against a leaseholder with an unconditional leasehold right to park



1. Background Summary
I am the leaseholder of Flat [***]. My lease grants me the right to park one permitted vehicle in my allocated space (Space 20) subject only to payment of service charges. There is no requirement to display a permit, no reference to signage, and no contractual relationship with any third-party parking enforcement company.

RMG manages the estate’s car park and has contracted UKCPS to operate a permit-based enforcement scheme. This scheme has resulted in the issuing of a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) to my vehicle whilst it was parked in my own space, despite displaying a valid permit.



2. Timeline of Events

14 March 2023 – Alleged contravention date. My vehicle was parked in my own allocated space and displayed a permit on the dashboard. UKCPS issued a PCN claiming “no permit displayed”.

Mid-2023 – 2024 – No contact from RMG. PCN passed by UKCPS to Trace Debt Recovery and later to Moorside Legal.

Early 2025 – I contacted RMG (Property Manager: Jessica) requesting intervention and cancellation of the PCN.

• Jessica confirmed UKCPS issues PCNs “irrespective of entitlement to park” if they deem a permit not displayed.
• Jessica stated that because the PCN was at “debt recovery” stage, RMG could not assist.

Stage 1 Complaint – RMG Response – RMG refused to uphold my complaint, repeated UKCPS’s position, and advised me to deal directly with Moorside Legal.

Stage 2 Complaint – RMG Response (Michelle Wood) – Again refused to uphold the complaint, claiming neither RMG nor UKCPS could cancel the PCN at its current stage. Offered to pay the PCN as a “goodwill gesture” but insisted permits must be displayed.

July 2025 – RMG Further Response (Jessica McGann) – Acknowledged my right to park but insisted the permit scheme does not override lease rights, describing it as a “practical measure” to prevent misuse of spaces. Continued to require compliance to avoid PCNs.

July 2025 – Complaint escalated to Housing Ombudsman.



3. Legal Position

a. Primacy of Contract
My lease is the primary and overriding contractual document governing my rights to park. The imposition of a permit scheme that penalises leaseholders for not displaying a permit is a new condition, not present in my lease. This cannot be lawfully imposed without a formal lease variation in accordance with s.37(5) of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987.

b. Interference with Leasehold Rights
By issuing a PCN to my vehicle in my own space, the scheme has interfered with my legal right to park, despite RMG’s stated “intention” not to do so. Intention is irrelevant when the effect is to impose a penalty for exercising an existing right.

c. Principal–Agent Relationship
UKCPS acts as RMG’s appointed contractor. RMG, as principal, retains the authority to instruct its agent to cancel enforcement action, regardless of whether the agent has referred the matter to a debt recovery company or solicitor. RMG’s claim that it is “unable to intervene” is factually and legally incorrect.

d. Case Law
Relevant persuasive county court authorities include:

Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd [2016] UKUT 496 (LC)
Pace v Mr N (2016, C6GF14F0)
Link Parking v Ms P (2016, C7GF50J7)
All confirm that a leaseholder’s pre-existing rights cannot be overridden by later-imposed parking schemes.



4. Key Contradictions in RMG’s Position

1. Acknowledgement vs. Action – RMG claims to “fully recognise” my right to park yet refuses to take steps to cancel a PCN issued in direct breach of that right.

2. No Lease Variation – RMG insists the scheme is not a lease variation, yet in practice imposes compliance as a condition to avoid penalties.

3. Inaccurate Legal Reasoning – RMG’s claim that they “cannot intervene” because the matter is with a debt recovery agent or solicitor ignores basic principles of contract law and agency.

4. Offer to Pay vs. Cancellation – Offering to pay the PCN as a “gesture of goodwill” is an implicit admission that the PCN is unjustified, yet they have refused the correct remedy: cancellation.



5. Remedy Sought
I request the Housing Ombudsman find that RMG’s actions and inaction amount to maladministration and/or service failure by:

• Allowing a parking enforcement scheme to operate in a way that penalises leaseholders for exercising their legal rights.
• Failing to instruct their contractor to cancel an unjustified PCN despite having the authority to do so.
• Providing contradictory and legally incorrect responses during the complaints process.

I request the Ombudsman recommend:

1. Immediate written confirmation that my space is excluded from UKCPS enforcement.
2. Formal instruction to UKCPS/Moorside Legal to cancel the PCN.
3. A written apology for the stress and inconvenience caused.
4. Review of estate parking enforcement to prevent recurrence.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on August 12, 2025, 03:13:09 pm
Hi guys

I've had two replies since I sent the last message. One from RMG in which they finally acknowledge and address the legal points that you have guided me through. I don't think they actually suggest a way forward though.

The second is from the Housing Ombudsmen stating that since RMG have sent a new response they are putting my complaint on hold for a few weeks.

I've copied the email below. Can you suggest an appropriate reply please; and thanks once again for the amazing support you have given me.

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From: customerservice@rmguk.com
Subject: Case Ref: (04335951)

Thank you for your email date the 3rd July 2025. Michelle Wood has read over your email and my response and is in approval of the below content.

To begin, I appreciate the opportunity to respond and clarify the rationale behind the parking enforcement measures in place at Merment House.

Firstly, I would like to assure you that we fully recognise and respect your leasehold right to park in your allocated space (Space 20). The parking enforcement scheme currently in operation does not, and is not intended to, override or diminish any such rights granted under your lease.

The enforcement system was introduced in response to ongoing issues with unauthorised parking across the estate. These included instances of both residents and non-residents parking in spaces not allocated to them, which caused significant disruption and inconvenience to those entitled to use those spaces.

To address this, a permit system was implemented to help our enforcement partner, UKCPS, distinguish between authorised and unauthorised vehicles. The requirement to display a permit is not a variation of your lease, nor does it seek to impose new conditions on your right to park. Rather, it is a practical measure to ensure that your rights, and those of other leaseholders, are protected from misuse by others.

We understand your concerns regarding the legal framework surrounding leasehold rights and enforcement. However, the permit system is not intended to interfere with your contractual rights, but to support them by deterring unauthorised use of private spaces. We do not dispute that you are entitled to park in your allocated space; we simply ask that you display your permit so that enforcement officers can verify your entitlement and avoid issuing a charge in error.

Regarding the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) issued to you, we acknowledge that this may have caused frustration. While we offered to cover the cost of the PCN as a gesture of goodwill, we understand your preference for cancellation and will take this into account in future reviews of enforcement procedures.

Finally, we note your intention to escalate this matter to the Housing Ombudsman. We will, of course, cooperate fully with any investigation and provide all relevant documentation and context to support our position.

We remain committed to managing the estate fairly and in accordance with leaseholder rights, and we thank you for your continued engagement on this matter.

Yours sincerely,

Jessica McGann
Property Manager

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From: casework@housing-ombudsman.org.uk
Subject: Case ID - 202513367 [REF/Qp/Kv/Kd/kw/]



To help us deal with your complaint as quickly as possible:
 
please do not copy us into your emails with others
please do not send us information that we have not asked you for
 
Thank you.
 
Complaint: 202513367 - Places for People Group Limited
Dear [name]

Thank you for contacting the Housing Ombudsman Service.
 
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Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on June 10, 2025, 06:44:04 pm
RMG's Stage 2 response is not only legally flawed but borders on institutional negligence in terms of its misunderstanding of leaseholder rights and the doctrine of privity of contract. Their position is internally contradictory, ill-informed, and arguably undermines their credibility as a managing agent.

Here is a proposed follow-up letter, suitable for submission to the Housing Ombudsman. This version can also double as your final reply to Michelle Wood and her team, should you wish to restate your position for the record.

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Subject: Final Response to Stage 2 Complaint Outcome – PCN Issued by UKCPS While Exercising Leasehold Right

Dear Ms Wood,

I write in response to your letter dated [insert date], regarding Stage 2 Complaint Reference 04152778.

I note your decision not to uphold my complaint, and I respectfully reject the rationale provided in full. With regret, I find it necessary to escalate this matter to the Housing Ombudsman Service on the basis of your continued refusal to recognise fundamental principles of property and contract law, and your failure to protect leaseholder rights under your management remit.

These are the core legal failures in your response and, for your reference, I will be including a copy of this letter in my escalation to the Housing Ombudsman.

1. Failure to Recognise Primacy of Contract

I am the leaseholder of Flat [flat number] and my lease grants me the right to park in my allocated space (number [space number] subject to the payment of service charges. There is no mention of a permit system, nor any reference to the involvement of third-party enforcement agents such as UKCPS.

The legal principle of primacy of contract means that any subsequent arrangements imposed by RMG or its contractors cannot override my pre-existing lease rights. That is well-established in the following case law:

Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd [2016] UKUT 496 (LC)
Pace v Mr N (2016), [C6GF14F0]
Link Parking v Ms P (2016) [C7GF50J7]

2. RMG’s Admission of Indiscriminate Enforcement

Jessica, your property manager, previously stated in writing:

"UKCPS issues parking charges to individuals who fail to display a permit, irrespective of their entitlement to park".

This is a clear admission that UKCPS is permitted to ignore the legal entitlements of leaseholders, which is indefensible in law and amounts to unlawful interference with leasehold property rights.

3. Section 37 of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987

If you assert that my lease was varied to allow this enforcement regime, please provide:

• A copy of the written agreement between myself and the freeholder;
• Or evidence of an application to, and approval by, the First-tier Tribunal under s.37(5)(a) or (b) of the Act.

You have supplied no such evidence. Therefore, your enforcement regime is entirely without legal foundation in respect of my demised property rights.

4. On the Offer to Pay

While I appreciate the offer to pay the PCN “on this occasion”, I must clarify that the correct resolution is cancellation, not payment, of a PCN issued unlawfully. Accepting payment in this way appears to be an attempt to sweep a procedural abuse under the rug without admission of fault. Any future PCN issued in identical circumstances would again constitute unlawful interference, and I reserve all rights in that regard.

5. Misunderstanding of Authority and Agency Law

RMG’s position that it is “unable to intervene” because UKCPS has passed the matter to a debt recovery agent and bulk litigators is both factually and legally absurd. The notion that the contractual principal loses authority over its own agent simply because the agent has referred the matter on is a fundamental misunderstanding of basic contract law.

UKCPS remains RMG’s appointed contractor and acts under its authority. If RMG cannot control the actions of its own agents, then either it has failed in its duty to manage those agents properly, or it has chosen not to. The idea that a matter becomes irreversible just because it has been “passed on” is nonsense.

RMG should have escalated this matter to its legal advisors. If this matter was reviewed by legal counsel, then I am forced to conclude that their advisors are equally incompetent or unaware of the most basic principles of agency law and leasehold rights.

6. Final Position

I do not accept that RMG or Places for People are legally powerless to instruct UKCPS or its legal agents to cancel a charge issued contrary to a lease. Your failure to do so, despite clear evidence, amounts to mismanagement and breach of your obligation to administer the estate in accordance with leaseholder rights.

As this is your final response, I will now escalate this matter to the Housing Ombudsman, requesting an investigation into:

• RMG’s failure to uphold leaseholder rights;
• Your tacit approval of unlawful enforcement activity;
• The stress and inconvenience caused by your failure to intervene meaningfully once the facts were made known.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on June 10, 2025, 06:10:05 pm
The second reply I got was to my response to their letter of Claim using the text in reply 15 in this thread.

I copied in info@ukcps,net and  I got a replay saying they could not accept complaints by email.

Like I say, RMG have offered to pay the charge but I wanted to give you guys all the info.

Thanks for your help.

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Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately, we cannot accept Appeals, Transfer Liability or Complaints via email.

Please complete your appeal or Transfer Liability on our website ukcps.com/submit-appeal/ or send it in writing to UKCPS Ltd, City West Business Park, Building 3, Gelderd Road, Leeds, LS12 6LN. Our appeals process can be found on the correspondence you have received from us.

Please note, we will not enter into further correspondence via email.

Kind regards,
UKCPS Ltd

Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on June 10, 2025, 06:02:23 pm
Hi Guys

I've had two replies, one each for two different emails I have sent.

The first reply was to my 'escalation to RMG stage 2 complaints procedure'. This was the text provided in reply 11 in this thread. The reply to my stage 2 complaint is included below and they are offering to pay the parking charge on my behalf!

I'm happy with this but since you have put so much work in I wondered what you would suggest?

Thanks again

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Stage 2 Complaint Investigation 04152778

I want to thank you once again for taking the time to tell us about your complaint. I have
now completed my review into your complaint regarding a parking ticket and parking
control.

Outcome

I have carefully considered your complaint and the outcome of the Stage 1 investigation. I
am sorry to say that on this occasion I have not upheld your complaint. This is because I
was unable to identify a service failure through my review.
I appreciate this may not be the outcome you were expecting, and I hope the detail provided
through my review findings will enable you to further understand my decision and how I
came to this conclusion.

Findings

Your Property Manager, Jessica, has made further contact with UKCPS regarding the
parking ticket you received in 2023. They have ultimately advised that due to the age of
the charge, and the stage it has reached they are unable to take further action. I enclose
an extract of their email below:
I’ve looked into the charge, and I can see that it has been with Trace Debt Recovery since
November 2024, and it may have progressed to Moorside Solicitors.
I’m truly sorry, but due to the age of the charge and the stage it has reached, we’re unable
to take any further action at this point. The motorist will need to contact them directly for
any further inquiries.

The parking ticket has now reached a stage where neither UKCPS or RMG can intervene
to remove the ticket or prevent the action that is in progress. There are UKCPS
enforcement notices across the site advising residents of the parking enforcement on site.
In addition, although residents have parking bays allocated as per their lease, there is
parking enforcement on site aimed to prevent non-residents parking on site. The permits
must be displayed at all times.

If the ticket had been raised with RMG sooner, before the escalation to legal action, then
they would have been able to intervene. However, I am aware that this was only raised
with them recently.

Places for People and RMG do wish to bring this matter to an amicable conclusion and will
therefore be willing to pay the parking charge on this occasion, if you can provide
confirmation of the cost by return. I would note that in the future, we would be unable to
make such a offer and you must ensure that the parking permit is clearly displayed.

Next steps

This is the final stage of our complaint’s procedure. If you are not satisfied with the outcome,
or the way I have dealt with your complaint, we would welcome the opportunity to discuss
this. Alternatively, there are further options available to you;

 Contact the Housing Ombudsman.

Dispute Resolution Team
Housing Ombudsman Service
PO Box 152
Liverpool
L33 7WQ
Telephone: 0300 111 3000
E-Mail info@housing-ombudsman.org.uk
Website http://www.housing-ombudsman.org.uk
Thank you for your feedback
I want to thank you again for bringing this to our attention and telling us about your
experience. We use the feedback given to us by our customers to continually shape and
improve the services we deliver.
Yours sincerely,
Michelle Wood
Director of Home Ownership
Michelle.Wood@placesforpeople.co.uk
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on May 26, 2025, 04:25:39 pm
That's amazing thank you. I'd be totally lost and a nervous wreck without the help that you have provided.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on May 23, 2025, 03:10:07 pm
They are a firm of utter incompetent wannabe supposed legals. I suggest you respond with the following and CC in info@ukcps.net and yourself:

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Dear Sirs,

Re: Your Reference 10263288 – UKCPS Ltd
Letter of Claim dated 8 April 2025

I write in response to your email reply following my initial letter regarding the above matter. I now address the contents of your reply in full and set out further concerns with the conduct of this matter.

1. Procedural Background

Your Letter of Claim dated 8 April 2025 made a vague demand in relation to an alleged parking charge, citing a total sum of £170. In response, I wrote to you confirming:

• That the debt is denied;
• That my address for service should be updated;
• That the £70 surcharge appeared to be unjustified and potentially unlawful;
• That I required clarification on whether the PCN sum was being claimed as damages or as consideration for a contract;
• That boilerplate responses would not be accepted.

In your reply, you attempted to justify the additional £70 by reference to BPA and IPC Codes of Practice, asserting it was not a cost of recovery but a “reasonable amount” intended to encourage early payment. You claimed your client was pursuing a claim for unpaid parking charges due to a breach of contract. You also confirmed that you had placed the matter on hold for 30 days on the assumption that I was seeking debt advice.

Let me now make it absolutely clear that your Letter Before Claim was non-compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims (PAPDC), and that your response has failed to correct or address these breaches.

2. Pre-Action Protocol Breaches

Your Letter of Claim contained insufficient detail of the claim and failed to include copies of evidence your client relies upon. This is a breach of:

• PAPDC paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1, 5.2
• Practice Direction – Pre-Action Conduct, paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c)

I remind you that the Protocol is binding on all parties, including your client, a serial issuer of consumer claims. Your failure to comply with these pre-action duties is unacceptable.

3. Request for Disclosure and Clarification

Until your client complies with their obligations under the PAPDC, I cannot consider my position or respond substantively to the alleged claim. I therefore require the following information and documents under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction:

1. An explanation of the cause of action.
2. Whether your client is pursuing me as driver or registered keeper.
3. Whether your client relies on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012.
4. Details of the alleged contravention: date, time, duration, and the calculation of the total sum claimed.
5. If the claim is for breach of contract: the date of the contract, parties, and a copy of the alleged contract.
6. Photographic evidence showing the vehicle allegedly in breach.
7. If alleging trespass: full particulars and supporting authority.
8. A copy of the contract with the landowner granting authority to litigate (as required by the Private Parking Single Code of Practice).
9. A site plan showing sign placement.
10. Photographs of signage (including font size and mounting height) at the time of the alleged contravention.
11. A breakdown of the £170: original PCN sum, interest, admin or other charges.
12. Clarification: is the £70 surcharge inclusive or exclusive of VAT? If inclusive, why am I as an alleged debtor being asked to pay your client’s VAT liability?
13. Clarification: is the principal PCN sum alleged to be damages or consideration for a parking contract?

I remind you again that failure to provide this information may lead to an application to stay proceedings, in line with authorities such as:

Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch)
Daejan Investments Ltd v Park West Club Ltd [2003] EWHC 2872
Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Ltd & Peter Dann Ltd [2007] EWHC 855 (TCC)

4. Registered Keeper Position – VCS v Edward (2023)

I confirm that I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I decline to name the driver. As you are fully aware, there is no legal presumption in English law that the keeper of a vehicle was its driver.

I refer you to the persuasive appellate reasoning in Vehicle Control Services Ltd v Ian Mark Edward (2023) [H0KF6C9C] (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yvxek3kfwtb3qent3lj6y/VCS-Limited-v-Ian-Mark-Edward-H0KF6C9C.pdf?rlkey=niecohfdtj1n1ysh5prbsp52p&e=1&dl=0), in which the judge confirmed this principle.

Your client cannot pursue me as the driver without evidence, and any reliance on a presumption of driver identity is misplaced and contrary to settled authority.

5. £70 Surcharge – VAT and Consumer Protection Concerns

Your explanation of the £70 surcharge as an “incentive” to pay early is disingenuous. This sum is clearly:

• Not a core term of any contract;
• Not proportionate as a pre-estimate of loss;
• Likely to be unenforceable under the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

You have not answered my legitimate question about whether the £70 is VAT inclusive. I repeat: if the principal PCN is claimed as VAT-exempt but the £70 includes VAT, then your client’s approach raises serious concerns of potential VAT evasion, which I reserve the right to report to HMRC.

6. Next Steps

As supposed solicitors, you should be well aware that these protocols and practice directions bind all potential litigants, regardless of the size or type of claim. Their stated purpose is to assist parties in understanding the claim, taking stock of their positions, and potentially resolving the dispute without recourse to litigation. It is frankly embarrassing that a regulated firm of solicitors would issue such a vague, unevidenced and non-compliant Letter of Claim.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter of Claim which fully complies with paragraph 3.1(a) of the PAPDC, I will consider my position and respond formally within 30 days as required by the Protocol.

Please confirm that your client will not issue a claim until they have fully complied with their obligations under the Pre-Action Protocol. If a claim is issued prematurely, I will seek:

• An immediate stay of proceedings under Practice Direction paragraph 15(b);
• Sanctions and costs pursuant to CPR 27.14(2)(g);
• Further disclosure in line with the above.

Should your client proceed to issue proceedings in defiance of these requests and without proper disclosure, I will assert a robust defence and may also consider a counterclaim for unreasonable behaviour.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on May 23, 2025, 11:42:00 am
Hi again

So I sent the email exactly as directed and I have just received the reply below. I don't know where they get the idea that I am seeking debt advice! They don't give up these parasites, do they? Please could you advise me on my next move. Your help is so appreciated.

Dear ...

Our reference: 10263288
Our client: UKCPS Ltd

We write further to your recent email.

Our answers to your questions are as follows:

The additional charge which has been levied on your Parking Charge of £70  is the amount set out in both the British Parking Association and International Parking Community Codes of Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery is required. Our Client adheres to the ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 does not represent the cost of recovery but is a reasonable amount in relation to the Parking Charge amount, in order to encourage early payment of the Parking Charge without the need for debt recovery. It is a fair amount set by our Client’s government-approved Accredited Trade Association Code of Practice. There are however also costs incurred by our client in relation to debt recovery services.
 
By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms and conditions were clearly displayed at the entrance and in prominent places within the car park. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and conditions, our client has issued the PCN therefore if we are instructed to issue a claim the reason would be for Unpaid parking charges/ breach of contract.
We have noted on your account you are seeking debt advice and have placed the matter on hold for 30-days. If you fail to make payment after the 30-day period has lapsed, we may be instructed to issue a County Court Claim against you. 
 

You may wish to seek independent legal advice.



Yours sincerely



Moorside Legal
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on April 30, 2025, 12:22:02 pm
All the forms that came with the LoC can be chucked in the bin.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on April 30, 2025, 12:05:13 pm
Thank you. I've sent that email.

Just to confirm, I should keep the LoC but at this stage I do not return the reply form outlining the reasons that I dispute the claim ie my car being legally parked in my own parking space. Is that correct?

Thanks
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on April 29, 2025, 07:34:42 pm
You only need to keep the LoC. You can dispose of all the forms that came with it. You don't give these bottom-dwelling incompetents any personal information.

Respond as follows by email to help@moorsidelegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

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Dear Sirs,

Re: Letter of Claim dated 8th April 2025

I refer to your Letter of Claim, your ref: 10263288

I confirm that my address for service at this time is as follows, and I request that any outdated address be erased from your records to ensure compliance with data protection obligations:

[YOUR ADDRESS]

Please note that the alleged debt is disputed, and any court proceedings will be robustly defended.

I note that the sum claimed has been increased by an excessive and unjustifiable amount, which appears contrary to the principles established by the Government, who described such practices as “extorting money from motorists.” Please refrain from sending boilerplate responses or justifications regarding this issue.

Under the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, I require specific answers to the following questions:

1. Does the additional £70 represent what you describe as a “Debt Recovery” fee? If so, is this figure net of or inclusive of VAT? If inclusive, I trust you will explain why I, as the alleged debtor, am being asked to cover your client’s VAT liability.

2. Regarding the principal sum of the alleged Parking Charge Notice (PCN): Is this being claimed as damages for breach of contract, or will it be pleaded as consideration for a purported parking contract?

I would caution you against simply dismissing these questions with vague or boilerplate responses, as I am fully aware of the implications. By claiming that PCNs are exempt from VAT while simultaneously inflating the debt recovery element, your client – with your assistance – appears to be evading VAT obligations due to HMRC. Such mendacious conduct raises serious questions about the legality and ethics of your practices.

I strongly advise your client to cease and desist. Should this matter proceed to court, you can be assured that these issues will be brought to the court’s attention, alongside a robust defence and potentially a counterclaim for unreasonable conduct.

Yours faithfully,


[YOUR NAME]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on April 29, 2025, 02:34:28 pm
Thanks for all your help so far. Here's an update. I sent the 'escalation to stage 2' email on April 14. I received an acknowledgement of receipt email on April 17. This offered to provide me with a response within 20 working days.

Meanwhile I received another letter from Moorside Legal dated April 8. It is a Letter of Claim giving me 30 days to return the reply form. One of the options on the form is to Dispute the debt.

I've attached a scan. Please could you offer me more advice on my next steps.

Thanks as always.

[attachment deleted by admin]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: Charitynjw on April 14, 2025, 04:47:10 pm
Derogation from grant is another useful phrase.  ;)
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on April 14, 2025, 03:05:39 pm
Thank you again. I have sent the stage 2 escalation email.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on April 12, 2025, 01:30:47 pm
RMG’s Stage 1 response fails to engage with the central legal point of your complaint: that you have a leasehold right to park in your space which cannot be overridden by UKCPS or RMG’s instructions to them.

Their response rests on:

• The age of the PCN, not the validity of the PCN.
• An assumption that failure to appeal at the time equals forfeiture of rights.
• A suggestion that you should now negotiate with a debt collector rather than RMG addressing its own agent's actions.

These are inadequate and misrepresent their responsibility as principal to UKCPS's agency.

Below is a Stage 2 escalation letter, reinforcing your position and requesting a proper legal response. It also sets out that if not resolved, you will escalate to the Housing Ombudsman.

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Complaints Department
Residential Management Group
RMG House
Essex Road
Hoddesdon
EN11 0DR

[Date]

By email: customerservice@rmguk.com

Subject: Escalation to Stage 2 – Formal Complaint Ref: 04108974

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to request escalation of my formal complaint (Ref: 04108974) to Stage 2 of the Places for People complaints procedure.

I remain dissatisfied with the Stage 1 response from Jane Gillings, which wholly fails to address the substance of my complaint—namely, that UKCPS, acting under a contract with RMG, issued a Parking Charge Notice to me despite the fact that I was parked in my own allocated bay, exercising a leasehold right.

As explained previously:

• I am the leaseholder of Flat [flat No.] with an associated right to park in bay [bay No.], which forms part of the demised or common areas.
• This leasehold right to park is not conditional upon the display of a permit or compliance with any third-party terms imposed by UKCPS.
• The introduction of a permit scheme or third-party enforcement regime cannot override my legal rights without either my written consent or an application to the First-tier Tribunal under s.37(5) of the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987.

Instead of engaging with these legal issues, the Stage 1 response merely repeats UKCPS's internal rules and suggests I take the matter up with Moorgate Legal. This is both inappropriate and unsatisfactory. UKCPS are your appointed contractor, and RMG remains responsible for their actions on your behalf.

I also note and object to your Property Manager’s earlier comment that UKCPS issues charges “irrespective of entitlement to park.” This statement demonstrates either a clear misunderstanding of leaseholder rights or a deliberate disregard for them. If RMG does not recognise or protect leaseholder rights granted under a lease, this represents a fundamental failure in property management standards.

I must again insist on the following:

1. That RMG confirm, in writing, that my allocated parking space is not and was never subject to enforcement by UKCPS;
2. That RMG issue a clear instruction to UKCPS (and any subsequent parties, including Moorgate Legal) that this PCN is invalid and must be withdrawn;
3. That RMG provide an explanation as to why no such instruction was issued earlier despite being made aware of my leasehold rights;
4. That RMG acknowledge that my rights under the lease cannot be varied without due process under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987 and confirm no such variation has occurred.

If RMG/Places for People cannot or will not resolve this matter at Stage 2, I will have no choice but to refer the matter to the Housing Ombudsman Service, on the basis that your agents’ actions have interfered with my quiet enjoyment of the property and subjected me to avoidable and unlawful enforcement action.

I look forward to your detailed response within 20 working days as per your published complaints procedure.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on April 12, 2025, 10:42:27 am
If it helps, this is the complaints procedure for RMG, which appears to be part of Placed for People:
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STATEMENT OF INTENT
All RMG customers on developments RMG manages for Places for People will
have their complaints dealt with under Places for People’s complaints process
which the Housing Ombudsman oversees.
Complaints may include:
Delays or failure to provide a service
Dissatisfaction with our policies and procedures
Perceived unhelpful behaviour or treatment by staff or contractors
Failure to achieve our published standards
However, our complaints process is not suitable for determining disputes that
relate to legal obligations between you and our clients or legal obligations
between us and our clients.
HOW DO I MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT?
If your complaint is not resolved informally, and you feel that you need to take the
matter further and raise a formal complaint, please write to the address below
setting out your concerns together with copies of any documentation that will
help us to investigate.
Correspondence Address:
RMG House
Essex Road
Hoddesdon
Hertfordshire
EN11 0DR
Email Address: Customerservice@rmguk.com
PUT IT RIGHT
When you let us know that you have had a problem with our service, our priority
is to ‘Put It Right’ for you. If the person taking the complaint can ‘Put It Right’ for
you within 24 hours, we will consider your complaint as resolved.

STAGE 1
Places for People’s objective to resolve your complaint to your satisfaction within
this first stage of the formal complaints procedure. The appropriate management
team will work to address all of your concerns, provide detailed explanation to the
matters raised and, where necessary, offer appropriate resolution. At Stage 1,
complaint correspondence will be acknowledged within 5 working days of
receipt. To allow time for detailed investigation, we will aim to provide a response
within 10 working days.
PLACES FOR PEOPLE (PFP)
COMPLAINTS PROCEDURE

STAGE 2
In the event that you feel the matter needs to be taken further, then upon your
request the complaint will proceed to Stage 2. Places for People will review your
complaint and provide the final viewpoint and any offer made. Places for People
will acknowledge your complaint within 5 working days of receipt and will aim to
provide a response within 20 working days.
Places for People is a member of the Housing Ombudsman. As a Places for
People customer if you are still not satisfied following Stage 2 you can refer your
complaint to the Housing Ombudsman Service.
The Housing Ombudsman Service is an independent organisation that
investigates complaints. They are not an advocacy or support service (but there
are other organisations who can help you with advocacy or support)
You can ask the Housing Ombudsman Service to look at your complaint if:
You have gone all the way through Places for People’s complaints handling
procedure
It is less than 12 months after you became aware of the matter you want to
complain about; and
The matter has not been (and is not being) considered in court
The Housing Ombudsman Service will ask you to complete a complaint form
and provide a copy of our final response to your complaint.
You can do this online at:
www.housing-ombudsman.org.uk/residents/make-a-complaint
Or call them on: Free phone 0300 111 3000
You may wish to get independent support or advocacy to help you progress your
complaint.
The Housing Ombudsman Service contact details are:
Housing Ombudsman Service
PO Box 152
Liverpool
L33 7WQ
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on April 12, 2025, 10:38:21 am
Thank you @b789 and @Charitynjw

I think I may need such case laws! RMG have not upheld my complaint. They still want me to contact Moorside Legal. Any advice you can give would be really appreciated.


I got this email:

Following on from your recent complaint, please find attached our response at Stage 1 of our internal complaints process.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact RMG.

with this attachment:

Stage 1 Complaint – Ref: 04108974
I want to thank you once again for taking the time to tell us about your complaint. I have
now completed my investigation into your complaint regarding;
- A parking ticket you receive in 2023.
Outcome
I have carefully considered your complaint however I am sorry to say that on this
occasion I have not upheld your complaint. This is because I was unable to identify a
service failure through my investigation.
I appreciate this may not be the outcome you were expecting, and I hope the detail
provided through my investigation findings will enable you to further understand my
decision and how I came to this conclusion.
Findings
The Property Manager, Jessica has spoken to UKCPS and due to the age of the charge
and the stage that it has reached, UKCPS are unable to take any action. The case is
considered closed with UKCPS as the debt recovery process has now progressed onto a
different entity, Moorside.
UKCPS operate based on displaying a valid permit, and ultimately this should have been
disputed at the point of receiving a PCN 2 years ago.
UKCPS have advised that you will need to contact Moorside directly to resolve this
matter. If you have evidence that the permit was correctly displayed, please present this
to the debt collector who will be able to review this further.
I understand this may be frustrating, and I am sorry that we cannot be of more assistance
regarding this issue. If you ever have any other issues regarding PCN’s which you

believe should not have been issued, please contact us straight away and we will be
willing to assist further.
Thank you for your feedback
I want to thank you again for bringing this to our attention and telling us about your
experience. We use the feedback given to us by our customers to continually shape and
improve the services we deliver.
This complaint is now closed, however if you are not satisfied with the outcome, or how
we have handled your complaint, please contact us as soon as possible to tell us the
reasons why and confirm if you would like to escalate your complaint to a Stage 2 review.
Yours sincerely,
Jane Gillings
Regional Manager
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on April 09, 2025, 12:31:51 pm
Interesting. The Duchess of Bedford House ruling will not apply where the resident has no easement or licence to park, or where the land is common parts not demised to leaseholders and no right was granted or implied.

You must establish the existence of a subsisting right — either by express lease terms, long-standing usage, or application of s.62 LPA 1925 — for this case to be invoked effectively.

I would summarise it as follows:

Duchess of Bedford House RTM Co Ltd v Campden Hill Gate Ltd [2023] EWCA Civ 1470 is binding Court of Appeal authority confirming that a parking easement, once validly created and passed through leasehold interests, cannot be extinguished or overridden by subsequent management arrangements or contractual signage. It affirms that the introduction of private enforcement schemes by a managing agent cannot lawfully interfere with pre-existing legal rights unless expressly varied.

Regarding the Housing Act 1985, the principles in sections 102–103 of the Housing Act 1985 do apply to secure tenants, and they strictly limit the landlord’s ability to vary tenancy terms — including any attempt to impose third-party private parking enforcement where such enforcement represents a new term or restriction on how the tenant may use the property or communal areas.

Under section 102(1), the terms of a secure tenancy can only be varied:

(a) by agreement;
(b) where rent or service charges are involved, via an express clause;
(c) by following the statutory process under section 103 for periodic tenancies.

If the landlord introduces a third-party private parking company, with signage, permit requirements, and PCNs without tenant agreement or statutory process, that is an unlawful variation of the tenancy terms.

This is especially so if:

• The original tenancy was silent on parking restrictions or enforcement;
• The tenant previously enjoyed use of communal parking without needing a permit or risk of PCNs;
• The changes are not merely administrative (e.g. labelling bays), but introduce penalties, conditions, or risk of enforcement by a third party.

This would be a new restriction or obligation, not permitted unless:

• The tenant explicitly agrees, or
• The landlord follows the section 103 notice procedure for periodic tenancies.

Even where communal land is involved, the tenant’s right of quiet enjoyment and existing use cannot be lawfully altered by signage or unilateral action.

Although s.102(1)(b) permits variation for rents or service charges, the introduction of enforcement (e.g. parking charges or PCNs) is not a service charge in the statutory sense — unless it’s provided for in the lease and compliant with consultation and reasonableness provisions under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985, which are separate.

So, if a secure tenant is issued with a PCN by a parking company introduced unilaterally by the landlord or management, the tenant may argue:

• The enforcement terms were not part of the tenancy;
• They never agreed to such a variation;
• No valid section 103 procedure was followed (if it is a periodic tenancy);
• The PCN is therefore unenforceable, and the parking company is acting without lawful authority.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: Charitynjw on April 08, 2025, 10:32:49 pm
@b789

https://www.casemine.com/judgement/uk/6576d76952aae60ac079d0bd?utm_source=amp&target=amp_jtext
https://vlex.co.uk/vid/duchess-of-bedford-house-971916653

Recent case re resi right to park.

Also, for good measure

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/68/part/IV/crossheading/variation-of-terms-of-tenancy
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on March 30, 2025, 12:55:30 pm
That's amazing, thank you so much.

Bob
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on March 27, 2025, 11:56:36 am
Based on your exchange with 'Jessica' from RMG and what else we know so far, here’s an analysis of the legal and procedural position, along with suggestions for next steps:

You have a contractual right to park derived from your lease, which is not subject to displaying a permit or complying with any third-party signage. The only condition mentioned is payment of the service charge.

This is a key clause in your lease:

"Subject to the Tenant paying the Service Charge the right for the Tenant and all persons authorised by the Tenant in common with all other persons having a similar right: to park one Permitted vehicle in the parking space shown edged red in Plan 1."

It is important because the lease grants a positive right to park, subject to service charge payment. The use of “in common with all other persons having a similar right” indicates non-exclusive rights over a shared parking area.

The “space shown edged red in Plan 1” is meant to define the area—but if the plan is missing, that does not invalidate the right, especially if the red-edged space refers to the whole car park (as I suspect). Importantly, no reference is made to a permit scheme, compliance with signage, or the need to contract with a third party for parking.

UKCPS cannot override your leaseholder rights granted under the lease. UKCPS are a stranger to the lease and cannot impose conditions (like requiring a permit) that are not in the lease.

This is well established in case law:

Jopson v Homeguard [2016] – Residential leaseholder rights prevail over signage.
Pace v Mr N (2016, C6GF14F0) – Parking company cannot enforce terms against a leaseholder with pre-existing rights.

RMG admits they are not the managing agent for the building where you, the leaseholder, resides. This suggests they are not party to the leaseholder’s tenancy agreement. They likely have no legal standing to impose new terms on that lease. While they do manage the car park land, they must respect existing leasehold rights unless they can demonstrate:

• Express authority from the freeholder to implement and enforce new parking conditions on leaseholders, and
• Evidence that those new conditions were properly incorporated into the leaseholder's contractual rights as per the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, section 37 5(a) or (b), which they haven't done.

Their reply that UKCPS issues PCNs “irrespective of entitlement to park” is revealing and legally flawed. UKCPS cannot lawfully enforce against someone who holds a contractual right that predates and excludes their scheme.

You mentioned Moorgate Legal, which normally acts as a bulk litigator. They are notorious for issuing poorly pleaded claims. Even if the PCN is over two years old, if a claim is threatened, you would need to defend on grounds of primacy of contract.

You could demand strict proof of landowner authority and their standing to issue proceedings and challenge the absence of any contract formation (as you already hold rights to park).

I suggest you send a formal complaint to RMG as follows:

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The Complaints Department
Residential Management Group
RMG House
Essex Road
Hoddesdon
EN11 0DR

By email to: Customerservice@rmguk.com

Subject: Formal Complaint – Unlawful Interference with Leasehold Parking Rights by UKCPS

[Date]

Dear Sir or Madam,

I am writing to submit a formal complaint regarding the conduct of your appointed parking contractor, UKCPS, in relation to a parking charge issued against my vehicle on 14 March 2023, while it was parked in my allocated parking space at Kelham Mills, Sheffield.

I am the leaseholder of Flat
  • , and my property includes the right to use parking space number
  • , which forms part of the communal areas of the estate. Although RMG does not manage my building, I understand that you are responsible for the management of the car park area and have contracted UKCPS to carry out enforcement there.


The parking charge was issued despite my vehicle being correctly parked in my own allocated space and while clearly displaying a valid permit on the dashboard. UKCPS have taken no steps to investigate the matter or acknowledge the legitimacy of my parking rights, and they have now passed the matter to Moorgate Legal, who are threatening me with legal action.

I raised this matter directly with your Property Manager, Jessica, who responded:

As per their instructions, UKCPS issues parking charges to individuals who fail to display a permit, irrespective of their entitlement to park.

This statement is astonishing and unacceptable. A leaseholder’s contractual right to park cannot lawfully be ignored or subordinated to arbitrary third-party rules imposed by a contractor. UKCPS are not a party to my lease and have no authority to determine or override leaseholder rights. The implication that enforcement will proceed regardless of legal entitlement demonstrates a disregard for property rights and a lack of oversight by RMG.

I was then advised that, due to the age of the charge, RMG was “unable to take any action” and that I should instead deal directly with Moorgate Legal. I find this deeply unsatisfactory. RMG appointed UKCPS and must accept responsibility for the actions of its agents. It is not for leaseholders to negotiate with third-party debt collectors about charges that never had legal standing to begin with.

I remind you that I hold a contractual right to park in my designated space as granted under my lease. That right is not conditional on the display of a permit or compliance with terms imposed by a third party such as UKCPS. It is a well-established principle of English law that leasehold rights take primacy over later-imposed schemes introduced without proper authority. I refer you to the persuasive county court authority in Pace v Mr N (2016) and the guidance of HHJ Harris QC in Jopson v Homeguard [2016], both of which confirm that a residential leaseholder with an existing right to park cannot be subjected to enforcement by a private parking company.

If RMG intends to argue that any variation to my lease permits the introduction of a permit scheme or the imposition of contractual penalties by UKCPS, I will require full disclosure of:

• The basis on which my lease was varied to include such a scheme,
• The date and method of variation, and
• The relevant statutory process followed under the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987, particularly section 37(5)(a) or (b).

To my knowledge, I have never agreed in writing to any variation of my lease terms, and no application has ever been made to a Tribunal. Without clear evidence of such a variation, any attempt to override my leasehold rights is not only invalid but may constitute an unlawful interference with my quiet enjoyment of the property.

RMG’s failure to exclude my bay from the UKCPS scheme, or to properly instruct UKCPS to cancel the charge once the facts were established, has caused me significant stress and wasted time. I have engaged with your property manager, who initially seemed willing to assist but ultimately deferred responsibility, citing the age of the PCN. This is unacceptable, particularly when it is your contractor acting in your name who is continuing to harass a lawful occupier.

Accordingly, I request the following:

1. That you formally instruct UKCPS and/or Moorgate Legal to cancel the charge and cease all enforcement activity in relation to this matter.
2. That you confirm in writing that my space is to be removed from the UKCPS enforcement scheme and that no future action will be taken in respect of my vehicle while parked in my allocated bay.
3. That you issue a formal apology for the distress caused and explain what steps you will take to ensure similar incidents do not occur again.

If I do not receive a satisfactory response within 14 days, I reserve the right to escalate this complaint to the Property Ombudsman and, if necessary, seek legal advice regarding RMG’s interference with my quiet enjoyment of the property and leasehold rights.

I look forward to your prompt resolution of this matter.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]

You can email the complaint to Customerservice@rmguk.com and also CC in yourself. Make sure you mark it as a formal complaint.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on March 27, 2025, 10:15:35 am
Hi Guys

It took me such a long time to find out who was managing the car park, as in who had contracted UKCPS. However now I can provide the additional information you requested.

Firstly the lease. Under rights of the tenant it says: 

"to park one Permitted Vehicle in the parking space shown edged in red on Plan 1."

I've attached a photo of the full page for the full legal wording.
However, my lease doesn't include the Plan 1 referred to, so maybe I can't prove I have a parking space?

In terms of the management company, I've had this exchange. My part of the conversation is in italics and i've removed my personal information.

Can you advise me of my best next steps please?

Thank you for any help.

Dear Jessica
 
I understand you are the property manager for the Kelham Mills estate In Sheffield, specifically for the car park and three of the apartment buildings.
 
I have a property in ****, which is not managed by RMG, but I have a parting space in the car park which is managed by RMG.
 
I own Flat ********, and my parking space is number **.
 
I am currently being threatened with court action by UKCPS for my own vehicle being parked in my own parking space some time in 2023. They claim there was no permit displayed but the photo they provided was of the windscreen, whereas I display my permit on the dashboard.
 
This is an outrage. I have no doubt it would be thrown out of court when I produce my lease document that details my legal right to park in  my own parking space, but I really do not need all of the stress and anxiety that the threatening letters are causing me.
 
My vehicle was *****, my name is ****** and I am currently residing at *******.
 
Is there any way you can contact UKCPS and make these undeserved intimidating threats go away please?
 
Thanks,


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Thank you for your email.

I regret to hear about the difficulties you are experiencing with UKCPS. As per their instructions, UKCPS issues parking charges to individuals who fail to display a permit, irrespective of their entitlement to park.

To assist you further, I need to clarify a few points:

Was the permit displayed? Even if placed on the dashboard, it should be visible from the windscreen.

Have you made any payment to UKCPS? Please note that once payment is made, our options for intervention are significantly limited.

Providing the above information will enable me to assist you more effectively.

Kind regards,

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Thank you for getting back to me Jessica.
 
Yes the permit was displayed very clearly on the dashboard and no I haven't made any payment to UKCPS.
 
I hope this helps.


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Thanks for coming back to me.

Do you still have the PCN? Would you be able to send over a picture for me please if possible?

Or PCN number is fine if you don't have this.

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Hi Jessica
 
Sorry I don't have the PCN. It's over 2 years old!
 
The date of the incident was 14/03/2023 and the reference i have from Moorgate Legal is ***** if that helps. My vehicle was reg no ******.
 
Thanks for any help,


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No worries, thank you.

I will contact UKCPS to see what if there is anything we can do.

I am on A/L now until April 8th so will give you an update after then.

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I have spoken to UKCPS and unfortunately because of the age of the charge and the stage that it has reached, UKCPS are unable to take any action. They have advised that you will need to contact the Debt Recovery team which I am assuming are Moorside Solicitors, directly for further inquiries.

I understand this may be frustrating, and I'm sorry I cannot be of more help, but if you have any problems in the future you can come directly to me and I will review for you.

Kind regards,




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Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on February 11, 2025, 02:05:57 pm
Do not let the building management company fob you off by telling you that the car park is managed by a different company. We know that!!! It is managed by UKCPS. However, it is most likely that the building management company has contracted UKCPS to manage the car park. As such, they are jointly and severally liable for the actions of their agents.

If there is nothing in your lease, which has supremacy of contract over any third party being able to issue you with speculative invoices for parking in your own space, and the lease has not been altered in accordance with the Landlord and Tenant Act 1987 (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1987/31/section/37) section 37.5(a) or (b), then they will have acted unlawfully.
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on February 11, 2025, 01:32:32 pm
Thanks for this. I don't have the original PCN sorry, I threw all their correspondence away. It was a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK).

I will chase up the management company. The building management company have said that the car park and bins are managed by a different company. I'll chase them up.

I'll also dig out the lease and see what it says and doesn't say.

UKCPS have signs all over the car park saying parking on private land etc.

I'll get back to you.

Bob
Title: Re: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: b789 on February 11, 2025, 11:04:39 am
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)

Please show us the original Parking Charge Notice (PCN) you received for the one that is still being chased. Was the PCN issued as a windscreen Notice to Driver (NtD) or a postal Notice to Keeper (NtK)?

What has the management company said about these PCNs? More importantly, what does your lease/AST say about parking? What it doesn't say is equally as important. For example, does your lease/AST mention that you are required to even display a permit?

So, please answer the questions in order that we can advise accordingly.
Title: UKCPS sent penalty charge for parking in my own space
Post by: rjcbooth666 on February 11, 2025, 10:52:50 am
Hi guys

I hope you can help.

I lived in a flat with private parking managed by UKCPS. I had my own numbered parking space with a parking permit. My wife and I have a vehicle each, and we drove each others vehicles. Therefore we moved the permit between vehicles depending on which was in the space. For this reason the permit was not fixed to the window but lay on the dashboard.

In 2023 I received a series of charges for my van being parked in my own space. The permit was on the dashboard but the photo they included as evidence showed only the windscreen so the permit was not visible.

Rightly or wrongly I ignored their letters and most of them went away. But one is being pursued.

It was passed to Trace Debt Recovery (as were the others) but this one keeps sending increasingly threatening  letters saying they have prepared evidence to for referral to UKCPS's solicitor.

What are my options bearing in mind my vehicle was parked in my space with my permit displayed. Also I cannot be certain who was driving which vehicle

Thanks for any help

Bob