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Title: Re: Brighton and Hove, code 21 parked in a suspended bay, Princes Avenue
Post by: Incandescent on February 09, 2025, 05:43:57 pm
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Hi all, other half didn't notice the suspended bay that had been put in place for water works whilst parking late at night. Got a PCN the next morning at 07:50. When checked the street light the suspension is attached to is non-functioning as shown in the images. There is a very faint glow from it, and not a lot of other light. Is this a valid way to approach the appeal?
This is a short bay with room for about 3 cars, judging by GSV views, so one sign is sufficient and the suspension sign was mounted where the bay sign is, so it has been mounted correctly. It is the duty of a motorist to check the bay sign when parking, but unfortunately, a lot of people who park in a particular bay most of the time, don't bother. The photos appear to show a triangular sign was erected to make it prominent from a view along the pavement too. So difficult to argue against, in my view, the arrival in the dark with a non-functioning street lamp would seem to be your best approach, also pointing out you are a resident who parks there regularly. This latter is to try to get them to use their powers to accept mitigation.

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Title: Brighton and Hove, code 21 parked in a suspended bay, Princes Avenue
Post by: GorDon4189 on February 09, 2025, 05:08:12 pm

Hi all, other half didn't notice the suspended bay that had been put in place for water works whilst parking late at night. Got a PCN the next morning at 07:50. When checked the street light the suspension is attached to is non-functioning as shown in the images. There is a very faint glow from it, and not a lot of other light. Is this a valid way to approach the appeal?

She has a valid permit for the permitted bay, and all permit parking signage is still visible and not obscured by the parking suspension signage.

I would appreciate any advice on how to approach this appeal

TIA

Photos in this album or inline below https://imgur.com/a/hWc6SoB (https://imgur.com/a/hWc6SoB)

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Picture 1 - PCN Front

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Picture 2 - PCN Rear

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Picture 3 - Council Evidence 1

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Picture 4 & 5 - Non functional street light with suspension signage attached and visible permit parking signage

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Above Picture 6 - Photo at night showing lack of any light or visibility of suspension signage