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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: tasty_snacks on February 02, 2025, 04:21:22 pm
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It's a permit parking area and they only need one sign at entry but it must be clear. You have to suspect controlled parking near stations, hospitals etc.
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Ha! Well, three trains and a cart horse, in my case. :)
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The West Country is far more relaxed than London ! If that's where you live, best to go to London by train.
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This is your clue to why this zone exists. The old mantra of "when something looks too good to be true, it usually is too good to be true.
Perhaps so. But not relevant if the signage is non-compliant (which sadly, is not looking to be the case here)? Besides, my experience of parking at local stations (admittedly here in the West Country) is that you can park very close to the station without restriction.
What did you do with the PCN which was attached to your vehicle?
Were informal reps made and if so pl post along with the council's response.
I have the hard copy, can post if helpful.
I didn't make any informal reps. I've never had any success with them in the past - so just waited for the NtO.
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What did you do with the PCN which was attached to your vehicle?
Were informal reps made and if so pl post along with the council's response.
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Your last link on GSV shows a repeater sign. Where these areas are large, repeater signs are recommended.
I parked here whilst using the train station nearby
This is your clue to why this zone exists. The old mantra of "when something looks too good to be true, it usually is too good to be true.
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Sorry about that, now set to unrestricted.
Damn it - I didn't see that sign at all. Have now checked the rest of the road and there are signs at entrance points to the zones on one side of the road:
Google map - North (Ladyfields) (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6463804,0.0795329,3a,75y,152.77h,74.01t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sYqKI652ljllxusOfmI923g!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D15.992052262557337%26panoid%3DYqKI652ljllxusOfmI923g%26yaw%3D152.76717564904465!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Google Map - West (Colson Rd) (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6445154,0.0765497,3a,75y,116.48h,91.41t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sNyZJTLoGiqnht7sOIF2pxQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D-1.4114151297682724%26panoid%3DNyZJTLoGiqnht7sOIF2pxQ%26yaw%3D116.48452616341736!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Google Map - South (Lushes Rd) (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6439345,0.0758435,3a,75y,128.28h,87.28t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stO8jXgpP1xYLsqXhFofbCg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D2.7183185294736205%26panoid%3DtO8jXgpP1xYLsqXhFofbCg%26yaw%3D128.28330439107924!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Would've been more visible were it not set just after the turn from a busy road, and on both sides of the road. In fact, isn't there an obligation to place the warning sign on both sides if roads are over a certain width?
EDIT - have just found a resi permit sign on G maps (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6455228,0.08099,3a,75y,304.66h,85.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1stRY_pdJVWBCBlyPuViuPBw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D4.7056732984411695%26panoid%3DtRY_pdJVWBCBlyPuViuPBw%26yaw%3D304.65921583998016!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D), albeit on the other side about 30 yards away. I didn't see any of these at teh time.
Thanks
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Sorry, can't open your Google Drive links, please set to 'public'
Obviously you didn't notice this sign at the entrance to the street: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ojXAHa7TxZawM95D8
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Hi all
Received the Notice to Owner for this alleged offence. I parked here whilst using the train station nearby. I had a good look around the road, there were no signs on the roadside, no marked bays, no yellow lines. There weren't any CPZ signs on approach either - at least, not that I saw (subsequently confirmed by Google view).
The evidence of photos online includes a picture of a road sign, but I'm not sure where this is - the houses in the background certainly don't look like the ones where I parked. I've looked for 50+ yards along the road from where I was online and there is no evidence of signage.
It's been a while since I've dealt with resident bays - I guess my appeal will likely be 'contravention did not occur' based on the above / 20 min rule for loading?
Front page (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lYCPPDzPUdmCiQbelq4KRiuZv6yMXWDj/view?usp=drive_link)
Back page (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ubuMZwkoQ0nV_ofCzy5NZScTNI-7Pi6T/view?usp=drive_link)
Google Maps view (https://www.google.com/maps/@51.6455797,0.0811498,3a,75y,177.67h,78.29t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1siXzdh5IK_nwiaoFE35bSgA!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D11.714999721721085%26panoid%3DiXzdh5IK_nwiaoFE35bSgA%26yaw%3D177.6680880849986!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyOS4xIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D)
Cheers