Free Traffic Legal Advice

Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Jussyed on January 29, 2025, 12:50:06 pm

Title: Re: PCN Richmond - 622 parked over a footpath - Wills crescent whitton
Post by: stamfordman on January 29, 2025, 04:20:50 pm
There may be a resolution disapplying the footway parking ban in this road and nearby roads.

This case from 2008 may be helpful.

-------

Case Details
Case reference   208082394A
Appellant   Shakoor Abdul
Authority   London Borough of Richmond Upon Thames
VRM   AJ55DFA
PCN Details
PCN   RT95237429
Contravention date   02 Oct 2008
Contravention time   18:22:00
Contravention location   Wills Crescent
Penalty amount   GBP 100.00
Contravention   Footway parking  (one - four wheels on footway
Referral date   -
Decision Date   21 May 2009
Adjudicator   Paul Wright
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   cancel the Penalty Charge Notice and the Notice to Owner and, if the appellant has paid £50 to the local authority as claimed in his letter of 11/5/2009, refund this amount within 28 days.
Reasons   After initial consideration the case was adjourned, the parties being written to in the following terms:

"07/05/2009 18:34:51 **** Adjourn: appellant action ****

The adjudicator has asked the local authority for more information. In the meantime please tell the adjudicator how many Penalty Charge Notices have been issued to your vehicle in similar circumstances, their numbers, and what has happened in each case. Failure to reply may affect the outcome of your case."

"07/05/2009 18:34:51 **** Adjourn: LA action ****

The adjudicator requires the local authority to deal with the following points: 1. provide evidence in the form of maps/plans/photographs showing those parts of the footway which are exempt from the normal footway parking ban and the signs that go with them; 2. provide evidence of the resolution required by section 15(4) of the 1974 GLC (GP) Act (as amended) passed by the local authority authorizing the exempted areas; 3. explain which part(s) of the TMA 2004 and the 2007 Regulations made thereunder permit(s) the local authority to include dates in the Penalty Charge Notice (i.e., 4/11/2008 and 11/11/2008 here) by which it claims payment must be made; 4. following on from 3. above, explain how the Penalty Charge Notice is legally compliant and, therefore, legally enforceable against the appellant; 5. provide details of other Penalty Charge Notices issued to the appellant in similar circumstances and explain what has happened to the Penalty Charge Notice in each case; 6. to save further time and expense the local authority need not reply if it no longer contests; 7. otherwise, it must reply fully to all numbered points above."

Whilst the appellant has replied to my request, he has written with details of a neighbour's Penalty Charge Notice rather than any other Penalty Charge Notices of his own, contrary to my request. I cannot comment on other peoples' Penalty Charge Notices without knowing the FULL circumstances.

The local authority, however, has not replied to my request, thereby indicating that the matter is no longer contested. The appeal is therefore allowed.

In his letter of 11/5/2009 the appellant claims to have paid the sum of £50 with regard to this Penalty Charge Notice on 11/10/2008. If this is indeed the case, the local authority should refund this amount within 28 days.

The question of costs against the local authority does not, however, arise here, as I do not find, on balance, that it was frivolous, vexatious or wholly unreasonable in pursuing the appeal on this occasion.
Title: Re: PCN Richmond - 622 parked over a footpath - Wills crescent whitton
Post by: Incandescent on January 29, 2025, 01:30:29 pm
The sign on the opposite side of the road doesn't apply to the side where you parked.
Title: PCN Richmond - 622 parked over a footpath - Wills crescent whitton
Post by: Jussyed on January 29, 2025, 12:50:06 pm
Received this PCN charge and I think I may be able to contest it due to lack of clearly marked parking bays. I thought I had parked in a legitimate area. There is signage on the other side of the road to say you are able to park up the curb. With what’s meant to be specially marked exemptions and white lines on the footpath indicating where you can park. However those white lines were completely covered by parked cars when I arrived. This is the first time I have ever seen this type of sign (I don’t live locally to the area and live just outside London). So I was a little confused but parked up the curb as shown in photo on the other side of the road. It looked safe, no parking restriction signs and I actually made the decision to park on the curb due to the signage on the other side of the road saying you could. Also as you can see in the photo the footpath is very wide so this would not inconvenience any type of pedestrian in any way. When I returned to the car and found a ticket on my vehicle the cars on the other side of the road had gone and I could see faint parking bay lines on the pavement but in all honestly they are not clear enough. A local man walking his dog was the one who actually then came over to let me know that he thinks I can contest the ticket as the signage is not clear and the parking bays are also not clearly marked making it confusing. Before I try to contest the charge I just wanted to see what you guys think and also the best way to word my contest to get the ticket overturned. I hope this makes sense. I’ve attached photos of my vehicle on one side of the road and the actual area you can park up the curb on the other side of the road with the parking bays. I’ve also tried to include the location on maps.
Is it worth a shot and trying to contest or do I just have to face the fact that I hadn't parked correctly.
Thanks

https://maps.app.goo.gl/6CV2FiMmswNbGN1q6

https://imgur.com/Mxrakrb

https://imgur.com/ryyY4kt

https://imgur.com/jpRh3O4

https://imgur.com/HiKx8Xb