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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Robbyp898 on January 15, 2025, 04:54:57 pm

Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Incandescent on March 08, 2025, 10:11:09 am
Well done ! We don't see this very often, such is council greed for money.

Did you use my suggested text for your reps ?
Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Robbyp898 on March 08, 2025, 09:29:00 am
Hey, Finally got a reply from the council and they accepted the challenge first go.
Thanks so much for helping! :D
kind regards
Rob
Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: mickR on January 16, 2025, 01:58:12 pm
expect the council to refuse your informal reps as a matter of course. come back when you get a response
Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Robbyp898 on January 16, 2025, 06:25:08 am
thanks so much, I will give that a go!
Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Incandescent on January 15, 2025, 10:50:48 pm
Thanks for your reply, she was parked outside 37 the sign was outside 41, she did not walk past the sign to get home as we live at 12
OK, so as far as I can see the blue door is No 37, (at least that is what seems to be written on the dustbin !). The suspension sign is some yards away outside No 41. the other limit of the suspension area.  Yet there is also a bay sign only a few yards away from No 37 that had no suspension sign. So your wife after parking passed this sign on her way to No 12. With no suspension sign on it, she had no reason to walk the street looking for a possible suspension sign.  We see this sort of thing all the time, councils are monumentally stupid with suspensions, but the  more stupid they are, the more money they make ! This is because over 95% of people just cough-up.  I hope you are made of sterner stuff.
The correct signing of this suspension would have been suspension signs on the two bay signs at each end of the suspended area.

You could try this as an informal representation but be prepared to forego the discount and take them to adjujdication where it is almost certain you would win : -

Dear Sirs

Re PCN <number> dated <dd/mm/yyy> served at Longbeach Road

I deny responsibility for payment of the above PCN on the grounds that the contravention did not occur.

On the day concerned I parked outside No 37, then walked to my house at No 12. The parking bay sign a few feet away from my car had no suspension sign on it. A motorist is entitled to take the sign nearest to his vehicle when parking in a bay as showing the relevant restrictions. No sign was in place therefore no contravention occurred.
I request that the PCN be cancelled forthwith on recipt of these representations.

Yours faithfully











Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Robbyp898 on January 15, 2025, 09:09:44 pm
Thanks for your reply, she was parked outside 37 the sign was outside 41, she did not walk past the sign to get home as we live at 12
Title: Re: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Incandescent on January 15, 2025, 06:18:36 pm
So the suspension sign was here: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/S45pGa41Myym26Bc6
Please tell us where the house numbers are on the street and where your wife parked. Did she have to walk past the suspension sign to get to your house /
Title: Wandsworth Council, PCN, temporary suspended parking
Post by: Robbyp898 on January 15, 2025, 04:54:57 pm
Hey all,
Last night my wife parked on our road as normal, I went to the car this morning and it had a yellow sticker on the windscreen, I was surprised as we have a permit I walked up and down the road and eventually saw a sign with the temporary suspension on one lamp post about 15 meters from where we parked.
I found out a resident had paid to temporarily suspend the parking for a removal lorry because he came out and angrily told me it made parking the lorry very difficult, I apologised to him and that was fine.
To me it seems crazy that on a road we pay to park that one little sign is enough to suspend a large area, it was so easy to miss.
There was other parking available, my wife obviously did not see this tucked away sign far from where she parked and decided to go for the easy spot.
from where my wife parked the lamp post where the sign was was obscured by a telephone post.

this was the spot https://maps.app.goo.gl/eSQ79j9rXtrLuF4y9

here is the photos and the pcn
https://imgur.com/gallery/pin-XNFTZR1


thanks in advance