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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on October 23, 2025, 03:25:19 pm
Nothing to worry about. Sometimes the interpreter booking confirmation email arrives slightly earlier than the official Notice of Hearing.

When the Notice of Hearing arrives, it will confirm the date of the hearing and more importantly, it will give a deadline for the claimant to pay the £27 trial fee. That is normally about 4 weeks before the hearing date. I have never known a UKPC claim issued through DCB Legal go beyond that deadline as they will usually discontinue before they have to pay it.

Let's wait for the Notice of Hearing.

The email came from your local court, not from the Civil National Business Centre (Northampton). The address NorthHampshireCivil@justice.gov.uk is a shared mailbox used by several local courts, including Aldershot and Basingstoke, for outgoing mail.

If you reply to that email, it will go back into the local court’s inbox and reach the person who wrote it (Mrs [Name]). It will not be redirected to Northampton.

So yes, you can safely reply directly to that address — for example, to confirm your car details for the disabled parking space, or to acknowledge the interpreter arrangement.

If you haven’t yet received the formal hearing notice by post, you could add a short line like this:

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Thank you for confirming the interpreter booking. I have not yet received any formal notice of the hearing date or directions. Please could you confirm whether the Notice of Hearing or Notice of Allocation has been issued?

Show us the Hearing Notice when you receive it.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on October 23, 2025, 08:12:06 am
I'm a little confused here.

Received an email from the NorthHampshireCivil@justice.gov.uk email address but written by someone in my local court.

Confirming interpreter for hearing on 15th December but I've not received any correspondence about a hearing for 15th December. It's the 1st I've heard.

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Subject: (*case ref*)- Reasonable Adjustments for hearing on 15th December 2025 at ***** Justice Centre

Dear Sir,

I am writing to you to confirm that a BSL interpreter has been booked to attend the hearing with you following the information you have provided in your Directions Questionnaire. 

The information in your forms suggests that you may require a disabled parking space on the day of your hearing at Aldershot Justice Centre. For this to be secured, please could you provide the following details:

Car registration number
Make & Model of the car
 
I can also confirm that we have both an external and internal lift.

If there is any further assistance that the Court can provide, please contact prior to your hearing.

Regards,

Mrs **** ****

Team Leader
***** (my local court) Justice Centre | HMCTS

Web: www.gov.uk/hmcts

As of the 5 August 2024 All Civil & Family Calls are now dealt with by the National Service Centre Number 0300 123 5577

Working Pattern: Term Time Only
I work flexibly and emailing late in the day suits me, however I respect your working hours and don’t expect a response outside of them.
=====

Does that mean the PPC have decided to go ahead with a hearing?

If I reply to the email will it get to this person at my local court or go to Northampton?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on October 18, 2025, 12:21:48 am
Thank you
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on October 18, 2025, 12:05:32 am
Yes. Wait for the directions from a judge at your local court with deadlines.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on October 17, 2025, 09:41:34 pm
Received the following letter today

I assume this is what you were talking about.

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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on September 17, 2025, 06:39:52 pm
It just confirms that the claim is now being transferred back to the CNBC where they will probably transfer it to your local county court where they will have to deal with your claim going forwards.

You will next receive 'directions' from a procedural judge at your local court which will include how they intend to deal with the claim should a hearing be required to handle your disability. I can assure you that it will never get as far as a hearing as this will either be struck out or discontinued before it ever gets that far. In the vast majority of these cases, the claim is discontinued just before DCB Legal have to pay the £27 trial fee, which is around a month before any hearing date.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 17, 2025, 06:12:02 pm
Got this letter from the court today, dated 10th September. The post is terrible here so nothing unusual to get post a week late.

(https://i.imgur.com/8h9JLnI.jpeg)
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 10, 2025, 09:19:08 pm
Didn't have a clue what it was about so called them and gave them the email ref number. They said it was in reference to parking and they tried to get me to confirm reg number saying that they take data protections VERY VERY seriously, and as I have more than 1 vehicle, I gave the 1st 2 characters of the vehicle I didn't think it would be and they confirmed it wasn't that.
I said that it told me all I needed to know and unless there was a court order we had nothing to discuss..and he kept interrupting by unprofessionally forced laughing saying that "their clients ZZPS" is very litiguous and always will sue and they will issue me with a CCJ. I told them that only the court could issue a CCJ, and by all means, take me to court, again with the laughing and "ahhh entitlement, thank you so much for that today ma'am (more laughing) I love it when people try to tell me my job, love.....we'll continue to progress and will be adding more charges"

I just ended the call at that point. The complete unprofessionalism assured me that I had nothing to worry about. Prior to getting this email, I had been getting emails from ZZPS, which I had been ignoring, so this was a progression from this.

In an earlier post, you said that you rang the Debt Collectors and spoke to them, so, with respect, why are you now unable to take a telephone mediation?

I called via text relay, where an operator will speak what I type and types what the called party says.

It involves using an app called Relay UK which is  dreadfully designed and horrible to use.
Aside from that, the process of my typing what I want to say, while the called party (who 90% of time isn't patient enough to wait for me to finish before interrupting) stands by for the operator to relay it to them, then takes their response and types it to me.

Some deaf people have clearer speech than I so they have the option of speaking, while the operator types their replies.

It's something I'll only use when I've no other option (emails, texts being ignored etc)

In answer to your question, yes technically, I can receive calls as well but apart from the issues stated above, it involves dialling a prefix first, and for many govt departments this prefix gets blocked. In this case, it would have meant a 3 way mediation became a 4 way mediation and very confusing.

You can try putting it to the test yourself, download the Relay UK app, and try using it to call a friend, and receive a call as well, and report back here. It's free to use, apart from the cost of the calls.

Often companies and organisations, and indeed individuals forget that when the Equality Act mentions an obligation to make reasonable adjustments, it means for the disabled person, not vice versa.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 10, 2025, 09:05:10 pm
Good. That is one less waste of time and effort needed. The claim will now be located to you local county court and a procedural judge will make an order regarding the case.

The most basic of orders will be to set a date and time for the hearing and a deadline for the claimant to pay the £27 trial fee. They will also set a deadline for the submission of witness statements and any other evidence either party is going to rely on.

You must understand that this will never reach a hearing before a judge as DCB Legal will discontinue before they are required to pay the trial fee. As a matter of interest, considering your disability, how would you expect a (excuse the pun) 'hearing' to take place in person?

If I needed to attend court it would be with a BSL interpreter provided by the court.

Is that what you meant?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: peodude on September 10, 2025, 04:48:06 pm
Didn't have a clue what it was about so called them and gave them the email ref number. They said it was in reference to parking and they tried to get me to confirm reg number saying that they take data protections VERY VERY seriously, and as I have more than 1 vehicle, I gave the 1st 2 characters of the vehicle I didn't think it would be and they confirmed it wasn't that.
I said that it told me all I needed to know and unless there was a court order we had nothing to discuss..and he kept interrupting by unprofessionally forced laughing saying that "their clients ZZPS" is very litiguous and always will sue and they will issue me with a CCJ. I told them that only the court could issue a CCJ, and by all means, take me to court, again with the laughing and "ahhh entitlement, thank you so much for that today ma'am (more laughing) I love it when people try to tell me my job, love.....we'll continue to progress and will be adding more charges"

I just ended the call at that point. The complete unprofessionalism assured me that I had nothing to worry about. Prior to getting this email, I had been getting emails from ZZPS, which I had been ignoring, so this was a progression from this.

In an earlier post, you said that you rang the Debt Collectors and spoke to them, so, with respect, why are you now unable to take a telephone mediation?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on September 10, 2025, 02:30:51 pm
Good. That is one less waste of time and effort needed. The claim will now be located to you local county court and a procedural judge will make an order regarding the case.

The most basic of orders will be to set a date and time for the hearing and a deadline for the claimant to pay the £27 trial fee. They will also set a deadline for the submission of witness statements and any other evidence either party is going to rely on.

You must understand that this will never reach a hearing before a judge as DCB Legal will discontinue before they are required to pay the trial fee. As a matter of interest, considering your disability, how would you expect a (excuse the pun) 'hearing' to take place in person?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 10, 2025, 11:05:00 am
Thank you.

I emailed yesterday with your draft, with some slight amendments:

Dear Tonisha,

Thank you for your email.

You state that you “reached out” with alternative arrangements. I must rebut that assertion. I have received no such communication, whether by email or post.

Furthermore, the new date of 01/10/2025 was imposed without consideration for the information I already provided on my N180 Directions Questionnaire. It is not reasonable to disregard this information.

For clarity, my position remains that this claim is entirely without merit. My settlement position is £0, and therefore the utility of mediation is extremely limited. In truth, the whole exercise risks being a waste of everyone’s time and resources. A more proportionate use of court resources may be to dispense with mediation altogether and allow the claim to proceed to allocation.

Nevertheless, if mediation is insisted upon, I am prepared to engage provided it is conducted in an accessible format with a BSL interpreter present and scheduled at a mutually convenient date.
To be clear, this means a face to face BSL interpreter. VRI in this situation isn't suitable, for various well documented reasons, but also due to my ongoing issues with my hands clear communication via sign is less possible and requires the interpreter to be able to understand deaf speech, which is acutely difficult via VRI.

Please confirm that my requirements are properly recorded on the file so that further avoidable errors do not occur.

Kind regards
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Received email this morning saying it's been cancelled:

Mediation Cancelled
Claim number: *****

Parties: UK PARKING CONTROL LIMITED v ******

Mediation: between 13:30 and 16:30

Date: 01/10/2025

Please note that the mediation appointment in the above matter has been cancelled as one or the other party is unable to meet the criteria for mediation. We are unable to provide any further information at this stage so please continue to follow any instructions issued by the court.

If not already done so. the claim will now be transferred out of our business centre to a court where standard directions will be given and you will be notified in writing of the next stages to follow. It is important that both parties follow these instructions and adhere to the timetable set down by the Court. Further information can be found at; Make a court claim for money: What a court claim is - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

If you require any further information about the next steps, please contact the home court. You can use the link below to find the contact details.

https://www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal

Civil National Business Centre | HMCTS | St Katharine's House 21-27 St Katharine's Street | Northampton | NN1 2LH Phone: 0300 123 4593 Email: scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on September 09, 2025, 01:51:14 pm
Sadly, this whole process is a complete waste of time and resources. The mediation is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved. The mediator is not legally trained and cannot (should not) offer advice other than opinion on the possible outcome.

All you do is offer £0 and it should be over in minutes.

The response you received sounds like they are now scrambling to cover their backsides. You should absolutely rebut their claim that they “reached out” by invoking what’s called a rebuttable presumption of service.

By post: Civil Procedure Rule (CPR) 6.26 says service is deemed two business days after posting — but only if they can show proof of posting. If they can’t produce a certificate of posting or recorded delivery, their claim to have “reached out” carries no evidential weight.
By email: CPR PD 6A para 4.1 requires prior consent for email service. If they had sent an email, they should be able to produce the email header metadata to prove it left their system. Simply saying “we reached out” is not proof of sending or delivery. You can make it clear that absent evidence, their assertion is denied.

As for the mediation date:

• You’re not obliged to accept a unilateral date they drop on you. The whole point of Section E2/F4 on the N180 is that you supply unavailable dates so the service can avoid clashes. If they ignore this, you can (and should) push back.
• You can tell them you require them to offer you a range of alternative dates, excluding the ones you have already declared unavailable. That way, you’re seen as cooperative but not a pushover.
• As to settlement: you are perfectly entitled to state in advance that your only position is a £0 settlement because you deny liability. Mediation then becomes largely pointless — but you still demonstrate good faith in turning up.

Here’s how you might word it:

Quote
Subject: Claim No: [XXXX] – Mediation Appointment

Dear Tonisha,

Thank you for your email.

You state that you “reached out” with alternative arrangements. I must rebut that assertion. I have received no such communication, whether by email or post. If you contend otherwise, I require you to produce evidence of sending — either email header metadata (for email) or proof of posting (for post). Absent such evidence, your claim carries no weight.

Furthermore, the new date of 01/10/2025 was imposed without reference to the dates of non-availability I already provided on my N180 Directions Questionnaire. It is not reasonable to disregard this information. If mediation is to proceed, I require you to offer me a selection of dates which exclude those periods I have already identified as unavailable.

For clarity, my position remains that this claim is entirely without merit. My settlement position is £0, and therefore the utility of mediation is extremely limited. In truth, the whole exercise risks being a waste of everyone’s time and resources. A more proportionate use of court resources may be to dispense with mediation altogether and allow the claim to proceed to allocation. Nevertheless, if mediation is insisted upon, I am prepared to engage provided it is conducted in an accessible format with a BSL interpreter present and scheduled at a mutually convenient date.

Please confirm that my requirements are properly recorded on the file so that further avoidable errors do not occur.

Kind regards,

[Your Name]
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 09, 2025, 01:07:03 pm
Heard back from the courts yesterday by email.

Copy and pasted below:
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Good morning,

Thank you for your email.

Please accept our apologies for the arrangement of a telephone mediation call for your appointment.

Please note the telephone call email you received is a generic email sent to all parties as all of our appointments are telephone based.

We reached out to you shortly after the appointment was booked offering you alternative arrangements for you to be able to attend the appointment comfortably but we had not yet received a response for you.

I can confirm that we have rebooked your appointment to 01/10/2025 at 1330-1630 PM instead and this appointment will be a Microsoft Teams Video call with a BSL Interpreter present.

The link for the mediation appointment will be sent to you via email on the day around the beginning of your appointment.

If you have any more concerns or need further assistance, please do not hesitate to reach out to us

Regards,

Tonisha
Small Claims Mediation Service
Northampton Civil National Business Centre | HMCTS
===========================================================

Not sure how they reached out to offer alternatives as nothing was received.

Again, it's not paid attention to my available dates, but I've moved things around and will make myself available for the Teams video call.

I've not been in this position before, what can I expect and what shall I say? Do I mention that I do have a disabled badge and did have a valid badge on that date that had fallen to the floor? I was a paying customer at Lidl and have the receipt.

Many thanks for your continued help.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on September 02, 2025, 04:44:47 pm
This is such a powerful and frustrating account. The irony is staggering: companies boast about their tech-forward platforms, yet still default to phone calls, completely ignoring accessibility needs. For someone who’s profoundly deaf, that’s not just inconvenient—it’s exclusionary.

I suggest you contact mainstream media and your MP. Here are a few practical ways to push this forward:

Media outreach: Consider writing a personal piece for outlets like The Guardian, BBC, or Channel 4. They often publish stories that highlight systemic failures, and this is exactly the kind of issue that deserves attention.

Disability advocacy groups: Reach out to organisations like Scope, RNID, or Disability Rights UK. They can help amplify your voice and may offer support or legal guidance.

Social media: A well-written thread on X (Twitter), LinkedIn, or TikTok could gain traction—especially if you tag the companies involved and use hashtags like #DeafAccess or #AccessibilityFail.

Engage your MP: Send a direct email explaining the issue. MPs are obligated to respond to constituents, and this is a cause they won’t want to ignore. You can also ask them to raise the issue in Parliament or push for policy updates around digital accessibility.

Document everything: Keep records of missed appointments, failed communications, and inaccessible services. It builds a strong case if you need to escalate.

Suggest alternatives: Companies should be offering live chat, secure messaging, or email-first protocols. These tools exist—they just need to be used properly.

And no, you don’t sound like a “whinging old fart.” You sound like someone who’s been patient for far too long. This isn’t a rant—it’s a call for change.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 02, 2025, 04:23:49 pm
I don't have much more to add other than that already helpfully shared by b789 above, other than to say if you have time, you may wish to respond to the private parking consultation in b789's signature.

Whilst this latest issue is a symptom of the largely automated court process, rather than the conduct of the parking company per se, it's an example of yet another hurdle faced by disabled people in what is already a stressful process. If parking companies operated ethically, this farce would have been resolved with one letter to the parking company, explaining that an occupant of the vehicle was entitled to reasonable adjustments and did hold a blue badge. Instead, the farce rolls on...

Thank you.

Yes, it's a daily bane of my life that companies and organisations insist on using telephone calls, when the initial contact was made by email/app/online etc.
Some quick examples:
Hometree emergency home cover - push you to use online fault reporting rather than telephone, perfect for me - except when they then try to ring you to confirm engineer booking, several times. Then email you to tell you it's been cancelled because they weren't able to get hold of me!
LG ThinQ: Big on online connectivity, push to use their app for the WiFi connected fridge with all the state of the art tech, report a fault via the app & then multiple phone calls, eventually a no-reply text message saying we've tried to get hold of you on number provided with no success so fault allocation has been closed, if you still require assistance please use the app to open a new fault etc
Even my GP, email to get an appointment, receive a no-reply text to say "your telephone appointment with Dr *** is at 2pm today, if this is not suitable please telephone the surgery" - email to say I can't use the phone, get an email saying I've missed my appointment with a little reminder of how much missed appointments cost the NHS, then an email a couple of days later apologising for the oversight and suggesting it may be best to come into the surgery to book an appointment in future
Worse one is the hospital/NHS who openly state that they won't/can't use email or text to inform you of appts, discuss results etc for various reasons, even though there's the NHS app which is meant to be very secure, I simply don't understand it. So they insist on sending via the post.

It's every day and a complete pain in the a***. And then you get people coming up to you saying "ey ent technology marvellous, it must be a godsend for you to be able to just email nowadays"  :-X

I must sound like a whinging old fart, and I suppose I am! ;D    If it was 1994, I'd understand, back then I was super excited about the future of email, I didn't think that 30 years later companies with a big online prescence would still insist on phone calls.

Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on September 02, 2025, 03:54:11 pm
I can appreciate your frustration. You need to contact the court right away to flag both the deafness/BSL interpreter requirement and the unsuitability of telephone mediation.

Telephone mediation is obviously inaccessible for you, and the court should never have booked it once you had made them aware of your hearing needs on the N180. They can (and should) either offer an in-person mediation with a BSL interpreter present, or simply bypass mediation and move the claim to the next stage.

Here’s how I would suggest you handle it:

Please accept my sincere apologies for not replying to your response and thanking you, it must appear ungrateful but I've been otherwise preoccupied.

Thank you very much for the advice and going to the trouble of drafting an email to send to the court, I have done this and emailed all the email addresses you listed. I didn't do this until fairly recently as I've been on some medication for nerve pain (pregabalin) and it's made me quite lethargic.
I've received auto confirmation emails from all of the emails you listed, although the court ones state between 10 and 14 working days for a response if one is needed.
If I don't hear from them by Monday morning, I may need to ask my brother to call on my behalf to direct them to look at the email (who lives at the other end of the country) but I imagine that this will pose some sort of data protection issue without prior written authorisation.

In other news, I've finally got a response from the hospital that the report on my MRI scan has been completed and sent to the consultant for review, so hopefully on the route to getting whatever treatment is required and on the road to recovery.

Many thanks again, and I will update any response from the court/DCBL
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: DWMB2 on August 12, 2025, 02:28:51 pm
I don't have much more to add other than that already helpfully shared by b789 above, other than to say if you have time, you may wish to respond to the private parking consultation in b789's signature.

Whilst this latest issue is a symptom of the largely automated court process, rather than the conduct of the parking company per se, it's an example of yet another hurdle faced by disabled people in what is already a stressful process. If parking companies operated ethically, this farce would have been resolved with one letter to the parking company, explaining that an occupant of the vehicle was entitled to reasonable adjustments and did hold a blue badge. Instead, the farce rolls on...
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on August 12, 2025, 02:15:10 pm
I can appreciate your frustration. You need to contact the court right away to flag both the deafness/BSL interpreter requirement and the unsuitability of telephone mediation.

Telephone mediation is obviously inaccessible for you, and the court should never have booked it once you had made them aware of your hearing needs on the N180. They can (and should) either offer an in-person mediation with a BSL interpreter present, or simply bypass mediation and move the claim to the next stage.

Here’s how I would suggest you handle it:

1. Email the court mediation service AND the court handling the case
• Send it to the Small Claims Mediation Service (SCMS) and the County Court hearing centre (or CNBC if still at that stage).
Subject line: "Urgent – Mediation Accessibility Issue – Claim No: [XXXX]"

2. State clearly:
• You are profoundly deaf and a British Sign Language user.
• Telephone mediation is not an accessible format for you.
• You require a BSL interpreter for all proceedings and cannot communicate effectively over the telephone.
• You already informed the court of this on your N180 Directions Questionnaire.

3. Explain your medical unavailability:
• You are currently undergoing urgent medical investigation and treatment for suspected spinal cord compression, and have recently been discharged from hospital.
• You are awaiting further tests and possible surgery.
• Your condition is also affecting the motor function in your hands, impacting your ability to sign.
• You cannot commit to a mediation appointment date until your medical situation stabilises.

4. Make the request:
Ask for:

• Cancellation of the 9 September telephone mediation.
• Confirmation that your case will either bypass mediation or that any future mediation will be arranged in an accessible format (i.e., in person with a BSL interpreter arranged by the court).
• Notation on your file of your disability and communication needs so this does not happen again.

5. Attach supporting evidence:
• Hospital discharge summary, MRI referral letter, or any note confirming your medical status (if available).
• Optional: proof of your deafness/BSL use (only if you have something easy to hand; it’s not strictly required but can help speed up acceptance).

You email to: DQ.CNBC@justice.gov.uk and you also CC CaseProgression.CNBC@justice.gov.uk, scmreferrals@justice.gov.uk, info@dcbleagal.co.uk and yourself for full transparency:

Quote
Subject: Urgent – Mediation Accessibility Issue – Claim No: [XXXX]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing in complete exasperation at the latest procedural blunder in this matter.

Despite clearly stating on my N180 Directions Questionnaire that I am profoundly deaf and require a British Sign Language (BSL) interpreter, and that I cannot participate in telephone mediation, I have now received an appointment for a telephone mediation on 9 September 2025.

This is an utterly pointless and discriminatory arrangement, and one that demonstrates a complete failure to read, process, or act upon the information I provided. I do not recall ever supplying a telephone number, precisely because I cannot use the telephone.

To make matters worse, the date chosen is one I have already said I am not available. I am currently undergoing urgent hospital treatment following suspected spinal cord compression. I have recently been discharged from hospital, have undergone an MRI, and may require surgery. My medical condition is affecting the motor function in my hands, making even sign language communication extremely difficult at times.

It is unacceptable that my stated communication needs have been ignored and that an inaccessible and unsuitable mediation format has been imposed on me. This is a direct breach of the court’s obligations under the Equality Act 2010 to make reasonable adjustments for disabled people.

I require the following to happen immediately:

1. Cancellation of the 9 September telephone mediation.
2. Confirmation that mediation will only take place in an accessible format, i.e., in person with a BSL interpreter provided and paid for by the court.
3. Formal notation on my file of my disability and communication requirements so that I am not subjected to this farce again.

I will be placing a copy of this correspondence before the court at any hearing to show the ongoing procedural failures in this matter. I reserve the right to seek costs for unreasonable behaviour if this vexatious claim continues — particularly as the claimant’s solicitors, DCB Legal, have a well-documented track record of discontinuing defended claims before trial.
Please confirm receipt and confirm the above actions without delay.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Full Name]

[Your Address]
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on August 12, 2025, 10:30:51 am
Email received today with TELEPHONE mediation appointment despite telling them that I'm deaf and needing a BSL interpreter. I don't think I even gave them my telephone number.

Also it's booked for 9th September, when I said I wasn't available.

Getting a bit sick of this now, got a lot going on, had my MRI scan for suspected cord compression on Friday and the hospital mucked up the cochlear implant headkit application to protect the magnet in my head, where it wasn't protected and was nearly ripped out of my head (asked the MRI operator if he'd done it before and he said no but he'd watched some videos) so I'm awaiting x ray to see if it's been displaced.

I wish they'd just f*** off. I mean I just forgot to display my blue badge one time.

Anyway here's what the email said, the start of it anyway. Do I get in touch with the court to highlight that I'm deaf?

"Your telephone mediation appointment
Appointment date: 09/09/2025

Appointment time slot: 13:30 to 16:30

Your confidential telephone mediation appointment has been booked for the above date and time slot. This means that the mediator will call you between the times shown. Your appointment will last for around one hour from the point at which the mediator calls.

The mediator will call both parties separately – you will not talk directly to the other side. They will try to help you both come to an agreement before the case goes to court.

Where your mediation appointment is mandatory, If you do not attend the appointment, the judge will take this into consideration at any court hearing and may issue a penalty. This could include the judge automatically ruling in the other party’s favour or ordering you to pay for some or all the other party’s costs."
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on July 24, 2025, 10:35:03 am
Submitted today by email as advised.

Thank you very much for your help thus far.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on July 17, 2025, 07:52:17 am
Thank you very much, that's very helpful.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on July 16, 2025, 11:49:58 pm
When you fill out the N180 Directions Questionnaire, you should tick “Yes” to needing an interpreter and write “British Sign Language (BSL)” in the box. The court can arrange and pay for a BSL interpreter. You should also let the court know separately that you need this, so they can plan ahead.

You should also explain your medical situation. Say that you’ve just been discharged from hospital, you’re waiting for an urgent MRI for suspected spinal cord compression, and you might need surgery. Explain that this affects your ability to use sign language and that you’re not sure when you’ll be well enough to attend court.

In the parts of the form that ask about availability (like Section E2 and F4), you can write something like: “Currently undergoing urgent medical investigation and treatment. Unable to confirm availability due to pending MRI and possible surgery. Will update the court as soon as medical schedule is clarified.

If you have a hospital note or discharge summary, you can attach that too. It helps show the court that your request is genuine. You can also write a short covering letter to explain everything clearly. Keep a copy of everything you send and make sure the court receives it.

You must also send a copy of the N180 and your additional sheet to the claimant or their solicitor (e.g. DCB Legal if they’re acting). Email is acceptable and preferable for proof of delivery.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on July 16, 2025, 10:38:59 am
Thank you for that.

Just further info, I'm deaf and a sign language user so would need the court to provider a BSL interpreter.
The other thing is I'm having some serious medical issues at the moment, I've just been discharged from hospital, and will be returning for an urgent MRI for suspected cord compression (the only reason it wasn't carried out there and then is that I've got a magnet implant needing surgical removal before the MRI)
If it's cord compression then it's likely to be surgery so at this point in time I'm unsure when I'll be free and in sufficient health to attend court.
(The spinal cord compression is affecting motor function of my hands, meaning loss of communication via sign language)
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on July 16, 2025, 10:24:58 am
Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on July 13, 2025, 09:50:30 pm
Seems they're still pursuing it.

(https://i.imgur.com/X4nY6WV.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/nRSASCR.jpeg)

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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 02, 2025, 04:03:24 pm
Email sent of this morning as instructed.

Auto reply received pasted below.

Thanks for the help, will report back as soon as I hear anything further.

Thank you for emailing the Claim Responses Team in the Civil National Business Centre. Please expect a response to your enquiry in 10 days

 

 

When sending us documents please ensure you comply with the Practice Direction 5B

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part05/pd_part05b

 

Documents not complying will not be accepted, in particular if it is over 10MB or 25 printed pages in size.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: jfollows on June 01, 2025, 08:42:50 pm
and entitlement to park in the disabled space.
Especially not this because, as you found, you don’t have an unconditional entitlement to park in the disabled space, and you didn’t comply with the conditions.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on June 01, 2025, 08:38:43 pm
I presume no mention at this point about having a valid badge and entitlement to park in the disabled space.

Just do as advised for the defence. If you try to alter anything, you will probably end up proverbially shooting yourself in the foot.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 08:19:18 pm
OK thanks.

I'll submit the defence this evening.

I presume no mention at this point about having a valid badge and entitlement to park in the disabled space.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: DWMB2 on June 01, 2025, 07:37:05 pm
With DCB Legal, a defended claim is almost always discontinued.

The potential risk with filing a counterclaim is that it might increase the likelihood of them not discontinuing. Equally, they may offer a discontinuation on the condition you likewise discontinue the counterclaim, but that would essentially leave you in the same position as if you hadn't bothered.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 07:24:13 pm
Indeed I did read it too quickly! It's been a long day today, completely unrelated to this.

Completely missed the email bit.

I shall do that, unless anyone thinks there's any merit in submitting a counterclaim.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: jfollows on June 01, 2025, 07:09:10 pm
OK I see (I think!)  - not been in this position before.

The AoS process looks a bit complicated, is the defence bit a matter of logging onto MCOL and putting in the code and submitting that defence? Where does the draft order come in
Read the reply Reply #21 from b789 more slowly, it answers your questions here.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 07:05:53 pm
OK I see (I think!)  - not been in this position before.

The AoS process looks a bit complicated, is the defence bit a matter of logging onto MCOL and putting in the code and submitting that defence? Where does the draft order come in?

I see on the form that there's an option for a counterclaim, not that I'm bothered about seeking any financial gain but looking at the fees and with my disability it appears that I would be able to get exemption of the fees. Anything that costs the parking company money can only be a good thing? Other than the stress and worry about this I don't think I have any costs though.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on June 01, 2025, 06:53:30 pm
Nothing. You have a choice, that's it. If you need longer than the initial date, then submit an AoS and get an extra 2 weeks to put your defence together, if you want to do it yourself.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 06:51:50 pm
Thanks for that.

What's the difference in submitting a defence now or doing an acknowledgement of service. I'm not clear on that.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on June 01, 2025, 06:40:50 pm
Oops, posts crossed. I am prepared to take on bets for £100 that this will never get as far as a hearing in court and will either be struck out or discontinued in due course. Any takers?

With an issue date of 21st May, you have until 4pm on Monday 9th June to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 23rd June to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of UK Parking Control Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

UK Parking Control Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0)
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 06:38:06 pm
It should be showing now, I accidentally sent it before completing it earlier
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on June 01, 2025, 06:34:35 pm
I seriously doubt that this will ever get as far as a hearing. Where have you posted the N1SDT Claim Form? Show it to us and only redact your personal details, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave EVERYTHING ELSE visible, especially all dates, including the issue date of the claim.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on June 01, 2025, 06:31:53 pm
I've now received a claim for the small claims court from DCBL for this!

I thought that it wouldn't end up going to court.

To summarise from original post I never received original notice to keeper, first I heard was 29th December, and shortly after that it was too late to appeal, not that they would have overturned it anyway.

Just to reiterate, the driver DID have a valid in date blue badge on the day in question and was entitled to park in the disabled space, and currently holds a renewed badge valid until 2028. The badge had fallen to the floor, likely after opening the boot.

The claim form is dated 21st May but only received today.

Would appreciate advice on how to proceed please. I've posted the claim I received below:

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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on February 18, 2025, 01:11:08 pm
GCTT.

You can take your tin-foil hat off. Nobody from a useless firm of powerless debt collectors can do anything. They and their other trading name ZZPS are not a party to any contract allegedly breached by the driver. You have already been told to ignore all debt collectors, so why are you engaging with them? IGNORE them!

Never, ever, ever, EVER communicate with a useless, powerless Debt Recovery Agent (DRA). Block their number and mark their emails as spam.

Even if the intellectually malnourished people at ZZPS/GCTT were scanning the internet on the lookout for your posts (they're not), what on earth do you think they can find out or do with any information they may find?

You've been watching too much TV imagining that these bottom-dwelling firms have resources to scour the internet for tidbits about your alleged debt...

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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on February 18, 2025, 11:48:05 am
I only called them as I thought it may have been relating to another matter (not parking) at a previous address.

The company name has 4 letters and the missing 2 in the middle are the 1st letter of Cat's Testicles.
I've since looked them up and know who they are now.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: DWMB2 on February 18, 2025, 11:27:39 am
I don't know who you're referring to as you've redacted their name, but for the love of god don't phone anyone. There's nothing to be gained from it, and you have no record of anything discussed. Any correspondence should be done in writing, and no correspondence should be entered into with anyone other than the parking company, or their solicitors if they progress legal action.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on February 18, 2025, 11:14:46 am
Had an email from G**T (I'm hiding their full name so these goons can't search for posts here) "certified enforcements agents" about a serious matter.

Didn't have a clue what it was about so called them and gave them the email ref number. They said it was in reference to parking and they tried to get me to confirm reg number saying that they take data protections VERY VERY seriously, and as I have more than 1 vehicle, I gave the 1st 2 characters of the vehicle I didn't think it would be and they confirmed it wasn't that.
I said that it told me all I needed to know and unless there was a court order we had nothing to discuss..and he kept interrupting by unprofessionally forced laughing saying that "their clients ZZPS" is very litiguous and always will sue and they will issue me with a CCJ. I told them that only the court could issue a CCJ, and by all means, take me to court, again with the laughing and "ahhh entitlement, thank you so much for that today ma'am (more laughing) I love it when people try to tell me my job, love.....we'll continue to progress and will be adding more charges"

I just ended the call at that point. The complete unprofessionalism assured me that I had nothing to worry about. Prior to getting this email, I had been getting emails from ZZPS, which I had been ignoring, so this was a progression from this.


Interesting them saying they take data protection very seriously, when I haven't got a clue where they (or ZZPS) got my email address from. I haven't appealed this PCN as I'd received the correspondence beyond the appeal timescale. As far as I can recall, I've not had dealings with UKPC previously with this vehicle reg.
I've not yet written any letters or emails to Lidl or the car park owners so I wonder if they're in breach of data protection themselves by obtaining my email address.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on January 17, 2025, 04:27:41 pm
You can simply tweak it if necessary. You are only asking the landowner (or their managing agent in this case) to get their parking operator to back off. You were a genuine customer and maybe point out that if they allow their rogue operators to persist in ticketing innocent users, they are likely to see, over time, significant reduction in traffic and thus footfall for their clients which will lead to lower overall income for them as the location becomes a no go area for drivers who will look to shop elsewhere where they are not invoiced for £100 by an unregulated firm of ex-clampers whilst being genuine patrons of the businesses at the location.

You get my drift?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 17, 2025, 04:18:35 pm


Thank you, what should I say to them, I presume the first letter you wrote, for the store manager for Lidl wouldn't quite fit?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on January 17, 2025, 04:12:20 pm
Always best to do anything in writing (email). You could call them to try and confirm a suitable email address. Anything promised in a phone call is not worth the paper it's not written on.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 17, 2025, 02:59:23 pm
The owners seem to be British Land, and a google showed up their phone number and email address.

Does anyone know if they're receptive to getting PCNs on their land cancelled?

Should I send an email to them/call them?
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: ixxy on January 16, 2025, 06:50:38 pm
Quote
their choice of unregulated private parking company to issue unfair invoices to genuine Lidl customers.

I don't think you will get anywhere with Lidl on this occasion, that's not a Lidl car park, they are just one small tenant on a big retail park. If you want the PCN cancelling you need to find out who contracted with UKPC, probably the landlord of Solartron Retail Park which is the location on the PCN.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: The Slithy Tove on January 16, 2025, 06:10:23 pm
So I tried to get in touch with Lidl, to get a direct number for the store. No such thing these days it seems.

I explained the situation to them and they said that that car park was a private car park and I had to appeal to them.
Phoning them does not in any way get the detail of b789's response in front of the correct person. It needs to be done in writing by emailing the relevant person/people.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on January 16, 2025, 04:38:24 pm
It's no use phoning the store. You don't know who you are speaking with and anything they say they will or won't do is not worth the paper it isn't written on!

It took me all of 10 seconds to find an email address for Ryan McDonell, the CEO of Lidl GB. Send him an email with your complaint about how unfair this is and if he expects his valuable customers to go shop at his competitors stores because of their choice of unregulated private parking company to issue unfair invoices to genuine Lidl customers. You get the drift.

You can show us what you intend to write before you actually send it.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 16, 2025, 04:16:02 pm
So I tried to get in touch with Lidl, to get a direct number for the store. No such thing these days it seems.

I explained the situation to them and they said that that car park was a private car park and I had to appeal to them. I said that the letter said I no longer had the right to appeal but they insisted that I did.

I went to UKPC's website and attempted to appeal and got the following message:

"This Parking Charge Notice is currently not eligible for appeal, due to the following reason:

Unfortunately we are unable to accept this Appeal as the Parking Charge Reference number has now been referred to our Debt Recovery Team."



What can I do now?

It all feels very quick considering I never received a NtK and the first I heard was the final reminder received after Christmas so not even 3 weeks (we had a death in the family in the new year and still awaiting coroner's report so focus has been elsewhere)
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on January 16, 2025, 04:10:32 pm
You can safely ignore any and all debt recovery letters. Use them as kindling or to line the bottom of a litter tray.

Keep on at Lidl to get this cancelled. If they don't, then we will cross that bridge when we come to it.

No one pays a penny to UKPC if they are here receiving and following the advice.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: mickR on January 16, 2025, 03:05:51 pm
don't worry about the debt recovery scary letter.
contact lidl as suggested but include the fact their customers are receiving debt collectors letters.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 16, 2025, 02:51:32 pm
@b789

Just to reiterate, in case my response appeared short, I very much appreciate you taking the time and trouble to draft up those responses for me.

I will be attempting to get in touch with Lidl first, I'm not sure whether the fact they've sent notice of debt recovery changes things now though and going by the letter, the option to appeal has passed.
Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 16, 2025, 02:33:53 pm
Thank you for your reply. I don't seem to be receiving notifications so have only just seen it.

I've now received a notice of debt recovery from UKPC. Does this change things?

Does this mean the appeal time allowed has expired?

(https://i.imgur.com/YjYnzYXl.jpg)


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Title: Re: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: b789 on January 13, 2025, 07:58:30 pm
Have you tried contacting Lidl to ask them to get the PCN cancelled? Were you a customer and do you have any receipts for purchases that day?

Don't try the customer services bods, they are usually clueless. If the store manager is not forthcoming go to the top of the management food chain and make a complaint there. Do you think it is fair that you should be penalised by an unregulated private parking company by being invoiced for £100 whilst being a patron of their store?

You can show a copy of your blue badge as evidence of eligibility to use the accessible bay.

Here is a suggested letter to the store manager or even the Lidl CEO:

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Store Manager
Lidl [Store Location]
[Store Address]
[City, Postcode]

Subject: Formal Complaint Regarding Parking Charge Issued to a Blue Badge Holder

Dear Store Manager,

I am writing as the registered keeper of a vehicle that was issued an unjust parking charge notice (PCN) by your appointed parking management company, UK Parking Control Ltd (UKPC), for an alleged contravention at your store’s car park on 29th November 2024. The driver of the vehicle, a regular patron of Lidl, utilised one of the accessible parking spaces during this visit.

The driver holds a valid Blue Badge, which was displayed at the start of the visit. However, upon returning to the vehicle, it was discovered that the Blue Badge had fallen to the floor. This may have occurred due to the boot being opened to retrieve shopping bags, causing a draft through the vehicle while the front door was open. Despite this unfortunate circumstance, the driver was fully entitled to use the accessible parking space as a Blue Badge holder. Enclosed with this letter is a copy of the Blue Badge for your reference.

I wish to bring to your attention that under the Equality Act 2010, businesses and service providers, including Lidl and its agents, have a duty to make reasonable adjustments to ensure that disabled customers are not placed at a disadvantage. The failure to display a badge does not negate the fact that the driver is a disabled individual with a lawful right to use accessible parking spaces. The driver's disability does not cease to exist simply because a badge temporarily fell out of view.

UK Parking Control Ltd (UKPC) is an unregulated private parking company, and their PCN is simply a speculative invoice for an alleged breach of contract by the driver. However, the issuance of this charge is an insult to a genuine customer of Lidl who was entitled to use the space provided.

Additionally, the Notice to Keeper (NtK) issued by UKPC fails to comply with all the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA). The NtK does not specify a period of parking, as required by PoFA, but instead only shows a single moment in time. This fundamental flaw in the NtK renders it non-compliant and unenforceable against the registered keeper. The Brennan v Premier Parking appeal case confirmed that a period of parking must be recorded, and a single timestamp is insufficient to demonstrate a parking contravention.

Your appointed parking management company has issued a parking charge of £100 for an alleged breach of terms and conditions. This charge is both disproportionate and unjustified, particularly given the context. By allowing such a charge to be pursued against a disabled patron, Lidl risks being in breach of its legal obligations under the Equality Act 2010.

As the registered keeper, I respectfully request that Lidl intervenes with its parking management company to ensure that this charge is cancelled immediately. Furthermore, I would appreciate it if you could review your current parking enforcement practices to prevent similar incidents from occurring in the future. It is imperative that Lidl ensures its agents act in accordance with equality legislation and do not penalise disabled individuals unfairly.

I trust that Lidl values its customers and will take swift action to resolve this matter. Please confirm receipt of this letter and provide an update on the steps being taken to cancel the parking charge.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]

Enclosures: Copy of Blue Badge

UKPC have no idea of the drivers identity and their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant  with all the requirements of PoFA 2012 which means that as long as the driver is not identified, inadvertently or otherwise, they cannot transfer liability to the Keeper. There is no legal obligation on the Keeper to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking company. So, always appeal as the Keeper and refer to the driver in the third person.

Here is a suggested appeal (only as the Keeper) to UKPC.

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Subject: Appeal Against Parking Charge Notice [PCN Reference Number]

To Whom It May Concern,

I am writing as the registered keeper of the vehicle referenced in the above Parking Charge Notice (PCN). I wish to appeal this charge on the following grounds:

1. Non-Compliance with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA)

The Notice to Keeper (NtK) issued by UK Parking Control Ltd (UKPC) fails to comply with the requirements of PoFA to hold the registered keeper liable. Specifically, the NtK does not specify a period of parking, only a single moment in time. This is a fundamental requirement under Schedule 4 of PoFA, which clearly states that a period of parking must be identified. Without this, the NtK is non-compliant, and liability cannot be transferred to the registered keeper.

The importance of specifying a period of parking is supported by persuasive appeals case law. In Brennan v Premier Parking Logistics (2023), it was confirmed that a single timestamp does not constitute a period of parking and is insufficient to demonstrate a contravention. The court in that case ruled that a lack of a specified period rendered the NtK non-compliant with PoFA.

2. Inadequate and Non-Compliant Signage

The signage at the location fails to comply with the standards set out in the BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP). The terms and conditions, including the parking charge amount, must be clearly visible and legible to drivers before they park. However, at this location, the signage is unclear, with important terms hidden in small print that would not be easily noticed by drivers.

In ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis (2015) UKSC 67, the Supreme Court highlighted the importance of prominent signage to establish a contractual agreement. In this case, the court ruled that clear and prominent signage was essential to forming a contract with a driver. The failure of UKPC's signage to meet these standards means that no contract could have been formed, and the parking charge is unenforceable.

Additionally, the failure to adequately bring the charge amount to the driver’s attention is a breach of Schedule 4 of PoFA and the PPSCoP. The charge must be prominently displayed to avoid allegations of entrapment or unfair practices. The BPA Code of Practice also requires that parking charges must not be hidden in terms and conditions but should be clearly brought to the attention of drivers. The signage at this location falls far short of these requirements.

3. Equality Act 2010 – Discrimination Against a Disabled Driver

The driver of the vehicle at the time of the alleged contravention is a Blue Badge holder and fully entitled to use the accessible parking space. The Blue Badge was displayed during the visit but was later found to have fallen to the floor. Under the Equality Act 2010, service providers have a duty to make reasonable adjustments for disabled individuals to ensure they are not placed at a disadvantage.

Penalising a disabled customer for circumstances beyond their control, such as a badge falling to the floor, is both unreasonable and discriminatory.[/indent]

4. Misapplication of Keeper Liability and Driver Assumptions

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver. In VCS v Edward (2023), the court reinforced that there is no presumption in law that the registered keeper is the driver. Parking operators must provide evidence of the driver’s identity to pursue a claim against them. Without such evidence, the claim must fail.

This case is relevant because in VCS v Edward, the judge made it clear that operators cannot simply assume the keeper was the driver and must prove who was driving at the time of the alleged contravention.

5. No Realistic Prospect of Success at POPLA

Given the numerous failings outlined above, it is clear that UKPC has no realistic prospect of defending this charge at POPLA. The NtK is non-compliant with PoFA, the signage does not meet the required standards, and the circumstances of the alleged contravention are covered under the Equality Act 2010.

UKPC is urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN immediately. Pursuing this charge further would be unreasonable and may be viewed as harassment, given the lack of a legal basis to enforce it.

Please confirm receipt of this appeal and advise of the outcome within the stipulated deadlines.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Registered Keeper

Title: Lidl parking without disabled badge
Post by: Endorfin on January 13, 2025, 03:30:38 pm
29.11.24 Driver parked in Lidl disabled space. Displayed badge but somehow it had made it's way to the floor (boot was opened to get bags out while front door was open so possibly the draft)

Received final reminder dated 19.12.24 after Christmas.

No notice to keeper ever received. It's not to say that it wasn't sent as post is pretty poor around here and the subject of numerous complaints.

Just checking in with you first to see what my options are before submitting an appeal.

Many thanks

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