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Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 14, 2025, 12:44:17 am
Do not respond to Gladstones now. You will choose the county court nearest to you. Gladstones will probably try and contact you at some stage to settle but you should only offer £0.

Thank you so much b789, you are truly a lifesaver!
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on March 14, 2025, 12:33:39 am
Do not respond to Gladstones now. You will choose the county court nearest to you. Gladstones will probably try and contact you at some stage to settle but you should only offer £0.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 14, 2025, 12:29:28 am
Hi b789,

Thank you for your help thus far.
I have just sent the email off to CNBC as you said (1x PDF and 1x draft order).

I wanted to ask 3 questions:

1. should I respond back to Gladstones email?
2. will I get to choose a local county court to me?
3. will Gladstones try and settle out of court?

Thanks so much for everything again!
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on March 13, 2025, 11:08:01 pm
No, just send it now.

When you attach evidence to your ES, each item of evidence should be on a page that begins with the same header info as the claim. E.g.

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

[Claimant]

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



Exhibit XX-01

Change the "XX" to your initials.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 13, 2025, 10:47:47 pm
Thank you b789.
Also, should I change/keep as is/delete this part of the witness statement since I received the email today from Gladstones:

6. Despite multiple attempts to engage with the Claimant’s solicitors, they have ignored my requests, forcing me to file this contested application at an increased cost of £303.

And what do you mean by the "header information":

Here is a link to the Chan, Akande transcripts and draft strikeout order exhibits which need to be saved with their own court header information and marked with the relevant reference in the WS to the exhibits with your initials (eg. XX-01, XX-02 etc.).

Thanks
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on March 13, 2025, 10:46:44 pm
No. Nothing has changed. You are the defendant and NPM are the claimant in the case.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 13, 2025, 10:27:47 pm
Thank you b789.
Question regarding the n244 - am I putting my name in the claimant section? I ask, because you put NPMs details on the defendants text field and for question 2, ticked I am the defendant. Is that correct?
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on March 13, 2025, 10:23:00 pm
If it was a default judgment from the CNBC then that is the court you make the application to. It would then be allocated to your local county court for a hearing.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 13, 2025, 10:13:45 pm
Hi b789,
What would be the name of the court - is it my local court or the Northampton one?
Thanks
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 13, 2025, 10:07:52 pm
Hi b789,

Sorry I should have explained my delay - my line of work requires me to travel a fair but and I only have access to my work laptop which is restricted to work use only, in the line of work I am in. I was actually dealing with the draft suggestions you kindly provided yesterday and then I received Gladstones email. I will finish and send as you advised.

Regarding the other claim, I did not receive anything regarding that so have emailed asking for more information. I will post up once I have more information.

I will come back here if I get stuck.
Thank you once again.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on March 13, 2025, 08:35:46 pm
Why have you waited for over two weeks to send off the application? You may be required to justify the delay. You absolutely must not delay making an application for a set aside!!!! What is your excuse?

Gladstones have now responded, albeit 9 weeks later. They are saying that they will only agree to a consented set-aside if you pay them the judgment amount AND you cover the application fee of £119, which is about £450. Your choice.

If you go for what I suggested over two weeks ago, you have a chance of having the CCJ set-aside and the original claim struck out, which a chance that you will be awarded your costs.

I really cannot be wasting my time if you arbitrarily delay doing what has been advised and now the landscape has changed.

Additionally, I have no idea what they are referring to about the outstanding £170 you are allegedly in debt to them for. Do you have another outstanding PCN? I suggest you show us the full letter and not just your paraphrasing of it is we are to properly assist.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on March 13, 2025, 07:09:19 pm
Hi b789,

I hope you are well.
Thank you for providing the draft N244 information etc. I have not yet sent it off as I had been away for work. I got back earlier this week.

Having said that, interestingly, I received the following from Gladstones:

Good morning,

Thank you for your email.

Please accept our apologies for the delay in response.

Our client does not intend to oppose an application to set the judgment aside providing that:

1. The judgment sum is paid in full
2. You accept liability for the judgment amount and to pay the costs of the application
3. You agree not to make any application as to costs

May we remind you that £170.00 remains outstanding on file 104294.150XXX. Failure to make payment on or before the 27th March 2025 will result in further legal proceedings.

Payment can be made to the following details:

Gladstones Solicitors Ltd
Barclays Bank
Account Number: 33028712
Sort Code: 20-24-09


Does this mean, they still want us to pay the county court judgement amount in full and bear the costs of the application?

I believe I should still do as you said in your previous post and apply to set aside the judgment. Can I recover the costs from them? I almost feel like they know they will lose if we go to set aside hence asking not to pursue costs. But i am no expert, please do advise where we stand with their email etc.

I would love to know about claiming the application costs etc from them.

Thank you.
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on February 25, 2025, 05:32:56 pm
In which case you will have to make the application yourself. Here is a link to a partially completed N244 application for your specific case:

N244 application (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zcwkj2n7iwvu5igmzdenk/N244_0622_save.pdf?rlkey=fr8eisykkysyh98vgszzhl2ut&st=kcdm0vkq&dl=0)

You will need to complete your personal details and the claim number and you sign by typing your full name for the signature.

Here is the Witness Statement which should be saved as a PDF file.

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

National Parking Management Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



WITNESS STATEMENT

I, [DEFENDANT'S NAME], of [ADDRESS], state as follows:

1. I am the Defendant in this matter. This witness statement is in support of my application to set aside the default judgment entered against me on [DATE] pursuant to CPR 13.3(1).

2. The default judgment was entered due to an honest procedural mistake on my part, and I have a real prospect of successfully defending the claim, which is fundamentally defective and should be struck out.

Background

3. I first became aware of the judgment when I received a letter from HM Courts & Tribunals Service dated [DATE] notifying me of the default judgment.

4. The claim form was correctly delivered, and I submitted an Acknowledgment of Service (AoS) within the prescribed timeframe. However, my defence was not submitted due to:

a) A technical email issue which resulted in the defence not being sent;

b) A misunderstanding regarding the defence form in the claim pack, as I mistakenly believed it was only to be used for counterclaims.

5. Upon learning of the judgment, I acted promptly by contacting the Claimant’s solicitors, Gladstones, requesting a consent order to set aside the judgment. I offered to cover the £119 consent application fee.

6. Despite multiple attempts to engage with the Claimant’s solicitors, they have ignored my requests, forcing me to file this contested application at an increased cost of £303.

The Claim Fails to Comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and Should be Struck Out

7. I have a real prospect of successfully defending this claim, but more importantly, the claim fails to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and should be struck out under CPR 3.4(2)(a) because it does not disclose reasonable grounds for bringing a claim.

8. The Particulars of Claim (PoC) contained within the N1SDT claim form are defective and fail to meet the standard required under CPR 16.4(1)(a). A copy of the N1SDT claim form is attached as Exhibit [INITIALS]-01, which clearly demonstrates:

a) No contractual terms are identified or attached, as required under CPR PD 16(7.5).

b) The PoC do not specify which clause(s) of the alleged contract have been breached.

c) The PoC fail to provide a clear factual basis for the alleged breach (e.g., the exact nature of the alleged contravention).

d) The sum claimed is not explained, and no legal basis is provided for additional charges beyond the parking charge itself.

e) The PoC do not clarify whether I am pursued as the driver or as the registered keeper.

9. The PoC within the N1SDT form fail to contain a concise statement of facts, as required by CPR 16.4(1)(a), and as a result, the claim is vague, inadequate and defective. It does not particularise the cause of action, preventing the Defendant from preparing a meaningful response.

10. The courts have previously struck out identical claims for failing to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). I rely on the following persuasive appellate authorities:

CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] – The court struck out the claim for failing to provide a concise statement of facts as required by CPR 16.4(1)(a).

CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30] – The court struck out a similarly vague claim, ruling that a claimant cannot rely on generic, template-style pleadings without properly particularising the alleged breach.

11. Copies of these judgments are attached as Exhibit [INITIALS]-02 and Exhibit [INITIALS]-03.

12. Furthermore, in a similar case, a district judge struck out a claim of their own initiative due to identical defects. The judge ruled that:

• The claim lacked legal and factual specificity.

• It would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective to allow amendments.

13. A copy of the draft order from that case is attached as Exhibit [INITIALS]-04

Claimant’s Unreasonable Conduct & Costs Request

14. I acted promptly in seeking to set aside the judgment and engaged in good faith negotiations with the Claimant’s solicitors, who refused to engage.

15. I attempted to resolve this amicably by:

• Sending an email to Gladstones solicitors on [DATE] requesting a consent order and offering to cover the £119 application fee.

• Following up via first class post with proof of posting on [DATE].

16. Despite these efforts, Gladstones failed to even acknowledge, never mind respond, leaving me no choice but to file a contested application at an increased cost of £303.

17. Under CPR 27.14(2)(g), the Claimant’s failure to engage in settlement discussions is unreasonable conduct that justifies a costs order in my favour.

18. Additionally, under CPR 38.6(1), if the Claimant discontinues the claim post-set-aside, costs should follow the event, meaning I should be compensated for the costs incurred in this unnecessary application.

Request for Relief

19. In light of the above, I respectfully request that the Court:

a) Set aside the default judgment pursuant to CPR 13.3(1).

b) Strike out the claim under CPR 3.4(2)(a) for failing to disclose reasonable grounds for bringing a claim.

c) Order the Claimant to pay my costs, summarily assessed at £303, due to their unreasonable conduct in refusing to engage in settlement discussions.

STATEMENT OF TRUTH

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Dated:

Here is the draft order which should be saved in an MS Word (.docx or .doc) format:

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IN THE COUNTY COURT[/center]
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

National Parking Management Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DRAFT ORDER

UPON the Court considering the Defendant’s application dated [DATE] to set aside the default judgment entered against them on 10th December 2024;

AND UPON considering the Defendant’s witness statement and supporting evidence;

AND UPON it appearing that:

a) The Defendant acted promptly upon learning of the default judgment and has a real prospect of successfully defending the claim, pursuant to CPR 13.3(1);

b) The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim as set out in the N1SDT claim form are defective and fail to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and CPR PD 16(7.5), in that they do not contain a concise statement of facts, do not specify the exact contractual terms allegedly breached, and do not provide the factual basis for the amount claimed;

c) The Claim is therefore vague, lacking in specificity, and does not disclose reasonable grounds for bringing a claim, pursuant to CPR 3.4(2)(a);

IT IS ORDERED THAT:

1. The default judgment entered on [DATE] is set aside pursuant to CPR 13.3(1).

2. The claim is struck out in its entirety pursuant to CPR 3.4(2)(a) on the basis that it fails to disclose reasonable grounds for bringing a claim due to non-compliance with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and CPR PD 16(7.5).

3. The Claimant shall pay the Defendant’s costs of this application, summarily assessed at £303, due to:

a) The Claimant’s failure to engage in discussions to resolve this matter via consent, which necessitated this contested application; and

b) The Claimant’s issue of defective Particulars of Claim, which resulted in an unmeritorious default judgment being entered.

Dated:
Here is a link to the Chan, Akande transcripts and draft strikeout order exhibits which need to be saved with their own court header information and marked with the relevant reference in the WS to the exhibits with your initials (eg. XX-01, XX-02 etc.).

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zc23txk7poctyyxiv2ytx/Strikeout-order-1-a-v2.1.pdf?rlkey=pancly3z6zwqt2cra5rvvh3ls&st=nq7a58tz&dl=0)

CEL v Chan Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nb9ypbecuurpmln00dily/CELvChan-appeal-transcript.pdf?rlkey=7mpuvpmpe45s2zbhch21om1ez&st=i8dnbod3&dl=0)

CPMS v Akande Transcript (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y631olc61z1slr6xfrdsk/CPM-v-AKANDE.pdf?rlkey=kltpojedcxiwarxr0sdfyjo05&st=qi4lv3fv&dl=0)

Make sure you also include a copy of the N1SDT Claim Form with the defective PoC as an exhibit too and reference it accordingly in the WS and on the header.

When you have made the necessary edits and saved everything, the application form, the WS, and the exhibits should all be saved as a single PDF file. The draft order (not the evidential one for the defence) should be saved as a MS Word (.docx or .doc format) file. You then need to attach the PDF film and the Word files to an email which you send to:

applications.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself.

Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the covering email and in the body of the email state:

"Please contact me at [phone number] to take payment for the N244 application fee by card" and also include a very short explanation about what is attached, mentioning that it is an N244 application for a set aside.

That should cover it unless anyone else has any observations.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on February 25, 2025, 01:41:29 am
Hello b789,

I hope all is well.
I sent the letter by proof of postage, as suggested.
Still no reply.

Shall I move forward with the set aside from my end? They had ample time to respond, but nothing as of yet. Sorry it has taken me a few weeks, but I had been away for work with no access/limited internet.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 26, 2025, 11:03:40 am
I suggest you now send a letter by post, with a free certificate of posting from the post office, to Gladstones. They will have 7 days to respond. If they fail to do so, then you will have to apply for a set side without consent.

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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postcode]

Date: [Insert Date]

Gladstones Solicitors
Unit B, 1st Floor
210 Cygnet Court
Warrington
WA1 1PP

BY POST WITH CERTIFICATE OF POSTING

Re: Claim No. [INSERT CLAIM NUMBER]
Defendant: [Your Name]

Dear Sir/Madam,

I write further to my email sent to you on [INSERT DATE] regarding a proposal to set aside the default judgment in the above matter by mutual consent.

Delivery Receipt of Email

The email was sent to your official address at enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk and was not bounced. According to the email headers meta-data, the message was successfully delivered. However, I have not received a substantive response to my proposal or even an acknowledgement of receipt.

SAR Response Omission
Further, I note that the Subject Access Request (SAR) response you provided failed to include any reference to my email or the attached letter. This raises concerns about the accuracy and completeness of your response and your potential failure to acknowledge correspondence that has been properly delivered.

Next Steps
In the interests of resolving this matter efficiently and proportionately, I am giving you a final opportunity to confirm receipt of my original email and to provide a substantive response to my proposal to set aside the judgment by consent.

I am prepared to proceed by way of mutual consent and cover the application fee of £119 to submit the Consent Order to the court. This would avoid unnecessary costs and court time for both parties. However, should I not receive a response to this letter within 7 days of service, I will proceed with an N244 application for a contested set-aside.

Should you continue to deny receipt of my original email, I will place this letter, my original email, and the delivery receipt/header meta-data before the court as evidence of my attempts to resolve the matter reasonably.

Overriding Objective
I respectfully remind you of your obligation to assist the court in achieving the overriding objective of the Civil Procedure Rules: to deal with cases justly, efficiently, and at proportionate cost. A consent order remains the most equitable and efficient resolution in this case.

I look forward to your response.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]

Enc. Copy of original letter as sent by email

Make sure you include a copy of the original letter. I suggest you date the letter and post it on the same day. You will have to take it to a post office and get a free Certificate of Posting. According to the Interpretation Act, a First Class letter posted is deemed served two working days later.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 25, 2025, 06:49:05 pm
Hi B789,

In answer to your questions, I sent it by email to Gladstone's and NPM.

I sent it to enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk

Please advise what I should do next.

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 25, 2025, 02:21:58 pm
How did you "send" the letter to Gladstones? Did you post it with a certificate of posting or did you email it as a PDF attachment?

You were advised that if you were going to SAR them, you should SAR both Gladstones and NPM. Are you saying that Gladstones responded to your SAR but have not responded or acknowledged your consent request?

If they have responded to your SAR but not shown the consent request letter, then it is possible that they did not receive it. However, if you sent it as an email attachment, you have proof of sending and delivery (if the email did not bounce).

Before moving forward, please answer the above questions.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 25, 2025, 01:17:49 pm
Hello b789,
Hope all is well
I have not heard anything back from Gladstones.
24.1.25 would have been 2 weeks since I sent them the letter for consenting to a set aside.

Should I send a follow up?

Also, when I sent them the consent letter, I requested the SAR, my consent letter did not come back as a document they had in the SAR pack. Can I assume they didn't receive it?

Thanks for your help!
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 10, 2025, 11:50:04 am
Shouldn't matter. If you are going to SAR for all the info they hold, then you should SAR both Gladstones and NPM separately.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 09, 2025, 05:11:30 pm
Thank you b789.

I have sent this off by email 1 hour ago.
I received their acknowledgement email aswell.

Also, would it be worth requesting all documents they have on me by was of an SAR? The other issue is that when they sent their last correspondence before the PoC came, Gladstones said I have 14 days to respond. But towards the end of the 14 days, I received the PoC. Will that matter should the case go to court?

Thanks.
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 09, 2025, 03:22:57 pm
In which case just go with the letter as shown earlier.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 09, 2025, 03:09:45 pm
Dear b789,

Thank you for the explanation, always helpful and clear.

I would prefer to go with option 2, but I know the chances of it being accepted are slim. Atleast, we can say that we tried.

If they do not accept, then ofcourse, I will go down the £303 route.

If you don't mind adjusting the letter based on the above, I would be very much grateful.

Thank you.
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 09, 2025, 02:43:48 pm
You have a choice. The default CCJ was because of your failure to submit a defence. By requesting a set aside with consent, you are, in effect, reducing your losses for your mistake. The CCJ is for £288.56 and if you can get them to agree to a consensual set aside, you are limiting your actual loss to no more than £119, assuming that the claim is either struck-out or remains live.

Obviously, had you not made the mistake of not submitting a defence, you would have almost certainly had the claim struck out anyway because of the claimants defective PoC and that would have cost you £0. You are now trying to see if you can avoid paying out £119 or at least recovering it if they do agree to the set aside.

The odds of the claimant/Gladstones agreeing to a consensual set aside are low, but you never know. With the odds of a refusal, your only other route would be with a non-consensual set aside which would require a hearing and costs £303. However, in that scenario, you will be able to request your costs to be paid by the claimant, especially if the claim is either struck out there and then or remains live and is defended at a later hearing.

What you can't really afford to do is nothing. Unless you decide to pay the CCJ in full within the one month deadline of the judgment, it is going to have to be dealt with or it will become much more expensive over the next 6 years if not.

1. Do you want to try and negotiate the set aside with consent but maybe put them off accepting by suggesting that the claimant pay or be liable for the costs?

2. Do you want to just try and get them to agree to the set aside and simply reduce your losses?

3. Do you want to go for the set aside and, if needs be, have a full hearing where you will initially have to pay £303 to apply but have a better prospect of recovering that fee as you will have to put in a draft defence which means that it is very likely to be struck out once set aside?

There are no absolute guarantees though. It may come down to "judge bingo". Choose option 1, 2 or 3 and I can adjust the letter accordingly.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 09, 2025, 02:14:10 pm
Dear b789

Thank you for the below.
So to clarify, should I send the letter you kindly drafted as is and then claim for the £119 during the consent order stage? Or shall I add the clause as you stated above into the letter you drafted and send it off? I understood that the reimbursement should be negotiated in the Consent Order, so the letter you drafted yesterday can be sent off.

Definitely understand, this is dependant on the Claimant agrees.

Thank you,
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 09, 2025, 12:07:40 pm
Yes, you can claim for the set-aside application fee from the claimant (Gladstones), but whether the court awards it depends on how the set-aside is granted and the circumstances of the case.

If the court grants the set-aside but the claim isn’t immediately struck out, you can still defend the claim and raise the defective PoC issue in your defence. If the claim is eventually struck out later, you can ask the court to order all costs associated with the set-aside and defence be reimbursed, including the set-aside fee.

You may need to adjust the letter requesting the consensual set aside. Since the default judgment arose due to a misunderstanding on your part about the defence deadline — rather than a procedural defect by the claimant (even though the claim is defective) — it’s important to adjust your approach when requesting reimbursement of the £119 application fee.

You'd need to focus on the fairness argument and the overriding objective, highlighting that both parties benefit from avoiding a contested set-aside and that it would be reasonable for the claimant to cover the fee as part of the Consent Order. You’re not claiming that the default judgment was wrongly obtained, but instead framing it as a pragmatic solution to save both parties further time and costs.

As it currently stands, if Gladstones agrees to a consent set-aside, it’s unlikely you’ll be able to recover the £119 application fee unless you explicitly negotiate this as part of the Consent Order itself. However, courts don’t automatically order costs in a mutual consent set-aside, since the agreement implies both parties are covering their own costs to avoid further disputes.

That said, there are ways you can try to recover the fee, depending on the circumstances and how the claim progresses. You'd have to adjust the letter to ask Gladstones to include the £119 reimbursement in the Consent Order. If they refuse to include a costs clause, reserve your right to request costs later.

It will all depend on whether Gladstones agree to a Consent Order at all. If they do, when reviewing a Consent Order, if it looks like the claim is likely to be struck out for defective PoC, you could propose the following clause:

“The claimant shall reimburse the defendant the sum of £119 for the set-aside application fee should the claim be struck out by the court for non-compliance with the Civil Procedure Rules.”

Even if Gladstones refuses to include that clause, you can still raise the issue with the court if the claim is struck out later.

If they refuse to consent to the set-aside entirely, you would proceed with a contested set-aside and request the court to order costs.

These are the scenarios:

• If Gladstones agrees to a Consent Order for the set-aside and the court grants it, but the claim remains live after the judgment is set aside, you cannot automatically recover the £119 fee. In this case, you’ve agreed to cover the cost of the set-aside to correct your own procedural mistake, and no further costs order would typically be made at that stage.

• If the court grants the set-aside and then strikes out the claim because the Particulars of Claim (PoC) are defective or non-compliant with CPR 16.4, you can request reimbursement of the set-aside application fee.

• If the claim remains live after the set-aside but you successfully defend it at a later hearing (or it is struck out for another reason), you can ask the court to award costs, including the set-aside fee, at that point.

The reasoning is that you incurred the set-aside fee as part of your successful defence, and it would be unjust for you to bear that cost given that the claim lacked merit or was procedurally defective.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 09, 2025, 11:23:30 am
Dear b789,

Again, THANK YOU for drafting the letter as you did, honestly thanks! I will send that off.

Just on the question about the costs: if I go down the consent (£119 fee) or contested set aside route (£303 fee) route, can I claim for the fee I would pay depending on the route taken? Claiming back from Claimant/Gladstones that is.

Thank you.
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 09, 2025, 03:43:31 am
You need to understand the consequences of not paying the CCJ in full within one calendar month of judgment. Once the deadline has passed, the CCJ will be entered into the register and your credit file will be trashed causing untold financial pain. Even if you were to pay it after this deadline, it would remain on the register but be marked as “satisfied”. This is only about one degree less financially painful than if it wasn’t paid.

Even after it is entered on the register, it can still be set aside but would cause you financial problems until the set aside is concluded. If nothing else is done, the CCJ remains on the register for 6 years. Not only would you find it almost impossible to get any credit for such things as a mobile phone contract or a mortgage but things like your car and home insurance premiums would increase significantly.

If you’re sure you want to apply for a set aside, then the CCJ will be on the register for a short period until the set aside is concluded. Shortly after the set aside, the CCJ will be expunged from the register and it will e as though it never happened.

If you are sure you want to initially try for a set aside with consent, your letter needs to be more detailed and you are advised to send it as a PDF file attached to an email to Gladstone. That way it is delivered instantly and is proof of delivery.

We never recommend using recorded delivery. It is slow and if it is not signed for, all you have is proof of non delivery which is not much use. If you absolutely must use the postal service then just get a free “proof of posting certificate” which is free from any post office.

Here is a suggested letter of request:

Quote
Gladstones Solicitors
Unit B
1st Floor
210 Cygnet Ct
Warrington
WA1 1PP

BY EMAIL: enquiries@gladstonessolicitors.co.uk

Without Prejudice Save as to Costs

Re: Claim No. [INSERT CLAIM NUMBER]
Defendant: [YOUR NAME]
Default Judgment Issued: 10th December 2024


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing in relation to the above matter, in which a default judgment was entered against me on 10th December 2024. The judgment arose due to my misunderstanding of the claim form, specifically the sections relating to the defence and counterclaim. As a result, I filed an Acknowledgment of Service but did not submit a defence within the required time.

I am now seeking to set aside the default judgment and propose to do so by mutual consent to avoid unnecessary costs and court time for both parties. I am willing to cover the £119 application fee required to submit the Consent Order to the court, and no further costs would be sought from either side at this stage.

This proposal would allow both parties to avoid the time and expense of a contested set-aside application and hearing, and upon the judgment being set aside, I would submit my defence so that the claim may proceed in the usual way.

In making this proposal, I respectfully remind you of your obligations as officers of the court to assist in achieving the overriding objective of the Civil Procedure Rules, namely to deal with cases justly, efficiently, and at proportionate cost. Agreeing to a set aside by consent would save court time, reduce costs, and ensure that both parties are on an equal footing in this matter.

I believe that this is a reasonable and proportionate way forward. Please respond to this proposal within 7 days, by 15th January 2025, so that this matter can be resolved promptly.

Should you choose not to engage with this reasonable request, I reserve the right to bring this letter to the court’s attention in any subsequent application, particularly in relation to the question of costs.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 09, 2025, 02:04:58 am
Dear b789,

First of all, I would like to extend my gratitude for your thorough explanation, of which I understood clarly. And even bigger thanks for going out of your way to ask your judge friend about the prospects of winning.

Given the limited time, can I just email Gladstones and say something like this:

**********

Dear Gladstone,

I refer to the CCJ awarded with the case reference XXXX.

In respect to this judgment, I would like to obtain your claimant's consent and have this judgment set aside.

Should you require any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Best wishes,

Defendant

***********

Couple of questions if I may:

1. If the above is OK, should I sent it by email? Or recorded postage?

2. Given the fact that they may not reply promptly to my consent query, does that mean my time to pay the £288 gets slimmer by the day? Essentially, from Gladstone's last letter, it states that I have to pay within 1 calendar month? If I will be worse off by waiting for a reply and then not being able to pay and remove the CCJ, I may just pay the amount in full and be done. Or can I wait for their reply and even if that reply comes a week or 2 later for example, and they do not consent, can I pay the £288 and still have the CCJ removed albeit paid slightly after 1 month of the CCJ being issued? I would be grateful if you can advise on this please.

3. The option of paying £303 and then contesting to set aside the judgement, is what I wish to do because of the facts of the case highlighted (by b78) and high chance of winning. I understand the risk will be that I won't be able to get back the £303. I wanted to ask - can the £303 be claimed back from the Claimants in a counter claim or any other way?

I greatly appreciate your help on this matter.

Thank you
Jay
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 08, 2025, 12:24:27 pm
Just to add... I have discussed this with a judge and, based on the limited facts I gave him, he said he would set aside the judgement but wouldn’t award the application fee. Financially, you would therefore better off just paying the debt and having done with it.

Because there is a good likelihood that the CCJ would be set aside, there is one other option which is to request a set aside with the claimant's consent. This approach is generally quicker and less expensive than a contested set-aside application, and it reduces the risk of your application being refused by the court.

You would contact the claimant through Gladstones and ask them to agree to set aside the CCJ by mutual consent. If the claimant agrees, you and the claimant would both sign a Consent Order, which confirms that both parties agree to have the judgment set aside.

You would then submit the Consent Order to the court along with Form N244 and pay a £119 fee (this is cheaper than the £303 fee for a full hearing). The advantage of this option is that the court is more likely to accept a set aside with consent, since both parties are agreeing to it. It’s also a much faster process because there’s no need for a lengthy court hearing.

The advantage of this option is that the court is more likely to accept a set aside with consent, as both parties are in agreement. It’s also a much faster process because there would be no need for a court hearing.

Once the CCJ is set aside, you would have the opportunity to defend the original claim. You have a real prospect of successfully defending it based on your argument that the Particulars of Claim (PoC) are defective and non-compliant with CPR 16.4. The claim could even be struck out entirely for failing to meet the basic requirements of the Civil Procedure Rules.

It’s important to note that even if the set aside is granted but the claim is not struck out immediately, you would still have a strong prospect of successfully defending the claim at a future hearing. Given the significant flaws in the PoC, there is every likelihood that the claim would be struck out later during the defence process. In this scenario, you would be able to ask the court to order the claimant to reimburse you for the set-aside application fee, as the claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4 is what caused the default judgment in the first place.

While this option is worth exploring, bear in mind that the claimant is not obligated to agree to a set-aside with consent. If they refuse, you would need to proceed with a contested set-aside application instead.

Key Points to Consider:

• Consent from the claimant is not guaranteed. If the claimant refuses to agree to a set-aside, you would need to proceed with a contested set-aside application instead.

• This process is quicker and cheaper than a contested application, but only if the claimant cooperates.

•You must act quickly. The CCJ was issued on 10th December 2024, and today is 8th January 2025, so time is running out if you want to apply within one month to avoid the CCJ being recorded on your credit file.

In summary, requesting a set aside with consent is worth exploring, as it could save time and money. However, if the claimant is unlikely to willingly agree, it’s important to have a backup plan to submit a contested set-aside application if needed.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 08, 2025, 11:49:04 am
The AoS is only to give you an extended time to submit your defence. By not submitting a defence, the claimant has triggered the default CCJ option.

It is a pity because the PoC in that claim are not compliant with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and had it been defended pointing that out, it would have been struck out. Unfortunately, as it has not been defended and a default CCJ issued you have limited options.

You’ve missed the deadline to file a defence because of a misunderstanding of the claim form, which led to a default judgment being issued against you. You now need to consider applying to set aside that judgment under CPR 13.3, which allows the court to set it aside if you have a real prospect of successfully defending the claim and if you’ve acted promptly once you became aware of the judgment.

While you do have a good argument that the Particulars of Claim were defective and didn’t comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a), meaning you have a reasonable chance of defending the claim, you need to be aware that the court has discretion to either grant or refuse your application. It’s not guaranteed that the court will set aside the judgment, and the court could take a negative view if they think you didn’t follow the process carefully enough when the claim was first issued. The court may see the misunderstanding of the form as a lack of due diligence on your part.

However, the court must also consider the overriding objective of the Civil Procedure Rules, which is to ensure that cases are dealt with justly and fairly. This includes ensuring that both parties are on an equal footing, that cases are handled proportionately to the complexity and importance of the issues, and that unnecessary costs are avoided.

In your case, you can argue that justice would not be served if a default judgment is allowed to stand on a technicality, especially given that you have valid grounds to defend the claim and the Particulars of Claim were defective from the outset. The overriding objective encourages the court to look beyond procedural mistakes if there is a real prospect of a defence succeeding and if refusing to set aside the judgment would result in an unjust outcome.

This is where you have a strong point. The claimant issued a poorly drafted claim that did not comply with the rules, and the court has not scrutinised it at all before the claimant automatically entering a default judgment. If you had been given the chance to defend the claim, you could have applied to strike it out for non-compliance with CPR 16.4, and the claim may never have progressed to a hearing.

In making your application, you would need to emphasise that you have acted promptly after learning about the judgment and that you are making the application in good faith. You’re not trying to delay matters or frustrate the claimant but simply seeking to correct a procedural mistake that shouldn’t be allowed to result in an unfair judgment.

That said, you should be aware that a set-aside application under CPR 13.3 is not guaranteed to succeed. The court will weigh up whether your misunderstanding of the process was reasonable and whether you’ve acted quickly enough to remedy the situation. You’ll also need to factor in the cost of making the application which is £303. There’s a risk that you’ll pay those fees and still lose the application, leaving you out of pocket and still subject to the judgment.

Alternatively, you can pay the CCJ in full within one calendar month of the date it was issued, which would result in the judgment being removed from your credit record. Given that the amount owed is £288.56, this could be a more practical and less costly solution than pursuing an uncertain set-aside application.

Ultimately, the decision comes down to whether you’re willing to risk the court fees in the hope of having the judgment set aside. You have strong legal arguments, but because the court has discretion, there’s no way to guarantee success. If you feel the court might take a dim view of your misunderstanding of the form, paying the judgment quickly may be the most sensible option.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 08, 2025, 01:54:09 am
Dear b789.

Thank you for your response.
I tried to edit but was unable to locate the edit function. I have reported this to the mods to see if they can help. Apologies, thought I'd post everything so nothing gets missed. Good for next time.

I sent the AOS (page 7 filled in) to the following email: aos.cnbc@justice.gov.uk
I received an automated message but nothing more from them courts.

OK, so I did not complete pages 5 and 6, looking back it now, I thought that was only for counterclaiming, and nothing to do with a defence. Damn it.

Please let me know what can be done at this stage.
Feel like a right mug!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: b789 on January 06, 2025, 10:58:09 am
Please delete all those images except the first page of the claim form with the Particulars of Claim (PoC) and the Judgment of Claimant page. Everything else is irrelevant and I, for one, don't want to have to scroll through useless pages of forms that contain no useful information.

You received an N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC that was issued on Monday 4th November 2024. You had until 23rd November 2024 to submit a defence or an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) which would have extended the deadline for submitting a defence to 4pm on Monday 9th December 2024.

You state: "I did fill in page 7 of the Claim form and emailed it to CNBC. Just my defense did not send. Is the defense what 'you did not respond' is referring to?"

Page 7 is only your details. The defence would be on pages 5 and 6. What exactly do you mean by "my defence did not sent"? If you only give us bits of information, this is going Tobe an extracted process. What email address did you use? Did you CC in yourself to the email? Did you receive an auto-response from the CNBC acknowledging receipt of your email?

According to the Judgment, you did not respond to the claim. Either you did not actually send it to the correct email address or it filed to send or you did not correctly attach the defence to the email. Somewhere along the line, it appears you SNAFU'd the process.

Depending on your answers, we will advise accordingly. So far, it appears that the claim was correctly submitted by the claimant. Had a proper defence been submitted, the claim would have most likely been struck out at allocation stage as the PoC are woefully inadequate and fail to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 05, 2025, 10:57:03 pm
Hello DWMB2

Thank you for replying.
I will upload the requested:

Claim Form from the Court:

Page 1: (https://i.imgur.com/RCoe455.jpeg)


Letter from HMCTS dated 10/12/2024:

Page 2: (https://i.imgur.com/qhUimiU.jpeg)

One other thing, page 2 of the HCTS letter/judgment, it says I did not reply to the claim form. I did fill in page 7 of the Claim form and emailed it to CNBC. Just my defense did not send. Is the defense what 'you did not respond' is referring to?

Do let me know what can be done - thank you ever so much!

Jay U
Title: Re: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: DWMB2 on January 05, 2025, 09:25:19 pm
So that we know exactly what you have received when it would be helpful to see:
Title: Gladstones Solicitors (for National Parking Management LTD) have issued CCJ
Post by: jayudd on January 05, 2025, 09:16:52 pm
Dear all,

Abit of a panic currently.
Registered keeper did not know that there was a civil action underway because the letters went to the wrong address, for example, the RK lives at 60 Noman's Street, but the letters went to 60A Noman's way. RK was given the letters a little late (don't ask).

Some context, the RK did not know the land in question where the vehicle was parked, was a private land thus missed paying. When receiving the first letters from Gladstones, it said to contact them within a specified period of time. However, the RK was not able to get through, and before the time period lapsed, a LoC was issued. RK sent the acknowledgment form by email and the defense some days later. Unfortunately, when sending the defense, it was still in the outbox, to which why there was a CCJ issued.

Is there any way of setting aside this judgement please?

HM Courts and Tribunal sent a letter on 10th Dec and Gladstone's letter was dated 11th. The latter stated to pay £288.56 within a month of the letter.

What recourse does the RK have?

Thanks in advance.

JayU