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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: jim1982 on January 04, 2025, 09:46:15 pm

Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on December 06, 2025, 12:56:17 pm
Well, the order was quite explicit in that if they didn't submit further amended PoC by 15th August, the claim is struck out.

Did they submit further PoC by that date? If they did, they were obliged to copy you in on them. They didn't, so the claim is struck out and that is the end of the matter.

If you want absolute peace of mind, give the court a quick call with the claim number and ask them to confirm the current status – they should confirm that it’s either been struck out or discontinued. In either case, there’s nothing more for you to do unless a brand new claim ever turns up, which is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on December 06, 2025, 08:58:32 am
Hi all,

Well, we haven’t received any form of contact since the last update in this thread. Hopefully that’s the end of it. And, if it is, I want to give a huge thanks to the people taking their own time to offer advice on this forum. It’s very much appreciated.

Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on August 05, 2025, 10:10:12 am
Thank you for the explanation. I shall wait and see what happens
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on August 05, 2025, 10:05:05 am
Good news. The judge has decided that the claimants PoC are defective and has had them struck out. However, he has thrown them a lifeline by ordering them to submit more detailed particulars.

They have until 4pm on 15th August to submit further PoC otherwise the claim is automatically struck out. If they do submit further PoC, you are then allowed to submit an amended defence by 29th August.

As this is being handled by DCB Legal, I suspect they will just throw the towel in and discontinue. For now, wait and see what they do. The ball is in their court.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on August 04, 2025, 09:59:56 pm
Hi all, this is our most recent letter.
All advice much appreciated as always.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jfollows on July 14, 2025, 09:34:15 pm
Is it too late to go back to some form of mediation process and settle out of court?
It’s not going to court.
99% likelihood.
Just stay the course.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on July 14, 2025, 09:23:56 pm
Is it too late to go back to some form of mediation process and settle out of court?
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on July 13, 2025, 08:22:10 pm
Thanks for the responses. To clarify as I really don’t get on with all the legal stuff, is this now definitely going to court? If so, what are my chances of winning?

Maybe I’ve misunderstood but I didn’t think me missing some junk mail has had any detrimental effect on this case.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: H C Andersen on July 13, 2025, 08:57:41 am
So OP, this purely procedural phase is now at an end i.e. CNBC have issued the claim form, you've submitted a defence therefore mediation has been taken from the cupboard only to be put back again once no pre-hearing resolution could be found and as CNBC are purely administrative (they don't hear cases) their role is over and they've allocated the case to a real court, presumably nominated by you, from which you will hear in due course.

Standard stuff.

The lesson for you: check your junk mail better/more often and make sure that if you go away for any length of time your mail can be managed. Default judgments abound in this area.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jfollows on July 13, 2025, 07:02:58 am
It’s DCB Legal, “DCBL” is the sister company of debt collectors. Ignore the latter but not the former.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on July 12, 2025, 09:06:51 pm
Hi all, had the mediation and didn’t offer them any money.
The mediator said they are still claiming I didn’t purchase a ticket. I pointed out that I did and can prove it.
He contacted dcbl and then phoned me back recommending that I contact them and send proof of this. I haven’t acted since.
This is the latest letter.

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Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: DWMB2 on June 19, 2025, 02:42:29 pm
Click "New Topic" at the top of the relevant part of the forum. You'll have scrolled past it to find this post to comment on.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: Titty on June 19, 2025, 02:39:02 pm
I am following this topic as I am in the same predicament but unfortunately I don't even know how to start a post so I PM directly the advicer hoping to get his attention too:
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on June 19, 2025, 10:15:18 am
Stop panicking! The mediation call is not part of the judicial process. No judge involved. The mediator is not legally trained and you simply tell that your defence is available to the claimant and that you are prepared to offer £0 to settle. It will be over in minutes and you can ignore anything the mediator says that frightens you. It has no bearing on anything going forward.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jfollows on June 19, 2025, 06:33:11 am
Could do with some help urgently please!

Received a text today about a mediation appointment tomorrow. It seems they sent an email with an appointment on 03/06 which I have just found in the junk email folder.
So, I’m not prepared for it. How should I proceed? The email asks for confirmation of the person who is conducting the mediation- I don’t know the answer to this. There’s also a form with a few questions one of which I’m not sure how to answer, what is the name of the person to whom you are delegating authority?
Thanks in advance for your time.
No preparation needed.
You’re not delegating to anyone else, are you?
You offer £0 and be done with it. End of mediation.

Lots of examples if you search this forum.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on June 18, 2025, 11:18:45 pm
Could do with some help urgently please!

Received a text today about a mediation appointment tomorrow. It seems they sent an email with an appointment on 03/06 which I have just found in the junk email folder.
So, I’m not prepared for it. How should I proceed? The email asks for confirmation of the person who is conducting the mediation- I don’t know the answer to this. There’s also a form with a few questions one of which I’m not sure how to answer, what is the name of the person to whom you are delegating authority?
Thanks in advance for your time.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on April 08, 2025, 02:36:52 pm
DO not take their calls. They only want to try and make you settle. If you follow the advice here, you won't be paying a penny to them.

I'm assuming that with the boilerplate letter you have shown us was a copy of their N180 DQ.

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on April 08, 2025, 12:46:35 pm
Hi all, I submitted the defence as recommended.
Dcbl have now sent another letter. I also have numerous missed calls from them.

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Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on February 20, 2025, 12:50:07 am
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Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: DWMB2 on February 19, 2025, 09:53:38 pm
It is entirely acceptable to send your defence by email, and indeed is preferable to using the MCOL system. This forum advises on several of these cases each week.

The email address suggested is from here:
https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/courts/civil-national-business-centre-cnbc (https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/courts/civil-national-business-centre-cnbc)
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on February 19, 2025, 09:35:58 pm
Hi,

I’d just like to make sure that responding to this claim via email is the correct way? The email you have provided is not offered on the claim form and the government website suggests i should respond like for like.

I’m not suggesting anyone is wrong i just want to be totally sure before I do it.
Cheers and I appreciate all the help.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on February 10, 2025, 11:08:00 am
So, the Gladstones/Minster Baywatch Letter of Claim (LoC) has nothing to do with this.

With a claim issue date of 4th February, you have until 23rd February to submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). To submit the AoS, follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

By submitting an AoS, you then have until 4pm on Monday 10th March to submit your defence.

If you don't want to bother with the AoS, then you can submit this defence and draft order by 4pm on Friday 21st February. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send both documents as PDF attachments in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Excel Parking Services Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Excel Parking Services Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather
than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/tcewefk7daozuje25chkl/Strikeout-order-v2.pdf?rlkey=wxnymo8mwcma2jj8xihjm7pdx&st=nbtf0cn6&dl=0)
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on February 10, 2025, 10:03:59 am
So it is. Thanks for pointing that out.

Any advice on the fine in question would be much appreciated
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: DWMB2 on February 09, 2025, 09:59:35 pm
The letter from Gladstones and the claim form from the court appear to relate to entirely different cases. The claim form relates to the case with Excel Parking, represented by DCB Legal.

The letter from Gladstones relates to a case involving Minster Baywatch, represented by Gladstones.

To avoid undue confusion, I recommend starting a new thread to deal with the Letter of Claim from Gladstones re. Minster Baywatch.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on February 09, 2025, 08:33:51 pm
I’ve noticed that the claim form states that I didn’t purchase the ticket in the allowed time. The previous letters stated that I did not purchase a ticket.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on February 09, 2025, 08:28:46 pm
Hi all, I have now received a letter from Gladstones and a claim form. Advice welcomed.

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Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: DWMB2 on January 31, 2025, 08:10:21 am
If you would also like advice please start your own thread.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: Sabab4321 on January 31, 2025, 07:01:16 am
Good morning, I have the same issue in this thread and I  received the LOC letter some days ago

I have been following this thread and I am at the same stage with the person that started this thread.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on January 06, 2025, 12:13:42 am
No. The PoC will be in the N1SDT Claim Form issued by the CNBC. They have not sent you one yet. You should receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) from DCB Legal before they issue a claim.

You do nothing for now. You certainly don’t get in touch with DCBL who are simply useless debt collectors with no powers to do anything.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on January 05, 2025, 09:01:46 pm
Thanks for the response.

Presumably PoC is the original letter? I don’t have one due to the incorrect address. I should’ve mentioned in my opening message that Excel have refused contact with me. All I have is 3 letters from dcbl.
I could contact dcbl and ask them for the details.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: b789 on January 05, 2025, 10:37:25 am
Do nothing for now. When they issue the N1SDT Claim Form through the CNBC, show it to us redacting only personal details, the claim number and the MCOL password. We need to see the Particulars of Claim (PoC) and the issue date of the claim.

We will provide a suitable defence. As long as the claim is defended, it will eventually be discontinued.
Title: Re: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on January 04, 2025, 10:03:53 pm
Here’s the claim letter

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Title: dcbl parking charge letter
Post by: jim1982 on January 04, 2025, 09:46:15 pm
Hi all,

Hoping for some advice on this one. I’ll give as much detail as possible.
Parked at an Excel carpark but took longer than the allowed 10 minutes to purchase a ticket. We never noticed the signage.

Letters were sent by Excel but I hadn’t changed address on the v5 so I didn’t receive them. First I heard of it was a letter from dcbl. I phoned them after the first letter and got a very rude gentleman told me there’s nothing I can do as I didn’t buy a ticket. All the letters from dcbl state that I did not buy a ticket. I did buy one and can prove it.
I now have a letter of claim from dcbl. The one phone call is the only correspondence I’ve had with them.

What should I do now?

Thanks in advance