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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: Korting on December 22, 2024, 11:33:05 am

Title: Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: Korting on January 05, 2025, 04:59:26 pm

I called the Traffic management office and they said I was too far into the red to be offered a course.

So I'll just have to pay up and take the points.

Title: Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: Dave Green on December 22, 2024, 09:59:05 pm

I know it's a different police force but if the Met follow the same criteria, this may explain the lack of a course:
https://www.lancashire.police.uk/faqs/conditional-offer-of-a-fixed-penalty-or-driver-retraining-course/why-have-i-not-been-offered-the-opportunity-to-attend-a-driver-retraining-course/

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Offences up to 2.9 seconds into red light are eligible for Diversionary Course or Fixed Penalty

Offences 3.0 seconds and above are reported for prosecution

Title: Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: Korting on December 22, 2024, 09:30:51 pm

Thank you for your replies, does anyone have a phone number for the Camera Processing Services?  I cant find a number anywhere.

Title: Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: mickR on December 22, 2024, 01:16:34 pm

I would agree 3 seconds is actually quite a long time.
there are 2 junctions near me which would see you T boned at 2 seconds  into red

Title: Re: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: NewJudge on December 22, 2024, 11:47:58 am

Unlike with speeding, there seem to be no guidelines for offering a course for red light contravention (not that I have seen, anyway).

Three seconds does seem a bit on the high side (bearing in mind that amber - which also means "stop" - would have been displayed for around three seconds prior to the red).

The only thing you can do is to ring them and ask them if hey would reconsider.

Title: Red light offence, no course offered.
Post by: Korting on December 22, 2024, 11:33:05 am

I received a NIP for contravening a red light in Camden which I hold my hands up to.

Although I sent the completed forms back very quickly the Police have come back to me with an offer of £100 + 3 points.

I thought they would usually offer a course, Why would they not?

I was about 3 seconds in the red.   

I did a speed awareneess course back in October.