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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: PoloBazza on December 15, 2024, 09:17:20 am

Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: DWMB2 on December 16, 2024, 01:34:12 pm
Anecdotally supermarkets can be quite good at intervening - but you do sometimes need to be persistent.
Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: b789 on December 16, 2024, 01:07:19 pm
As already mentioned, it is too late to appeal now. Apart from trying to get Sainsbury's to get it cancelled, you are now waiting for a Letter of Claim (LoC).

Please do not show us any debt collector letters. We don't need to see them and you can safely ignore them.

All your efforts now should be on Sainsbury's. When your LoC arrives, usually from DCB Legal, let us know and we will advise on how to respond.
Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: PoloBazza on December 16, 2024, 07:05:33 am
Apologies, attached again.

I will email the CEO today and ask.

Will post claim once received, thanks.

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Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: b789 on December 15, 2024, 02:17:24 pm
Please stop redacting dates and times. They need to remain visible if you want a proper assessment of the Notice to Keeper (NtK) and its compliance with PoFA.

Have you approached Sainsbury's to complain about this? That should always be your Plan A. As a customer, you should not be expected to receive a speculative invoice from a third party, unregulated private parking company.

Aim as high up the management food chain at Sainsbury's. Don't expect a lowly customer service bod to know or really care about your predicament. Start with the CEO. Google is your friend for finding out who that is and their contact details.

It is too late to appeal. You can safely ignore the debt recovery letters. All debt collectors can be ignored. they are powerless to do anything except to scare the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree to pay up out of ignorance and fear of litigation.

If Plan A does not bear fruit, then what you can expect, eventually, is a Letter of Claim (LoC) which will be issued by DCB Legal and then an N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC, which cannot be ignored.

Show us the LoC when it is received and also the claim. We will provide the necessary advice. Eventually, the claim will be discontinued if you follow our advice and that will be the end of the matter.

Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: PoloBazza on December 15, 2024, 10:38:10 am
I will try and go in and ask them and see what can be done!

See attached PCN back. I am owner of vehicle yes and it's fully paid off.

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Title: Re: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: RichardW on December 15, 2024, 09:24:33 am
Plan A should always be to appeal the landowner - although you are past the parking co's appeal date you can still ask Sainsbury's to get it waived.

Please show the back of the PCN - it may not be compliant to allow them to transfer liability to the keeper - assume that you are owner / reg keeper and it's not hired or on lease?

The debt recovery letter ( and the subsequent ones that will come) can be ignored. If appealing to Sainsbury's doesn't work, then come back for advice when you get a letter of claim.
Title: Debt Recovery Notice - Unpaid Parking Charge
Post by: PoloBazza on December 15, 2024, 09:17:20 am
Hello,

I, the keeper of the vehicle, recently received a debt recovery letter after not responding to a PCN from Euro car parks.

The driver forgot to pay for pay and display but Sainsbury's, the shop they visited, gives you the pay and display cost back when you spend £10 inside. More than £10 was spent inside Sainsbury's but received a PCN a month later. There is proof of a transaction on a bank statement for that day.

As I am the registered keeper, it was all sent to me. Working a lot with no rest I kept forgetting to deal with it until now, so haven't contacted anyone about it. Attached both letters.

Google maps link: https://www.google.com/maps/@50.3742397,-4.1441065,3a,57.3y,144.76h,80.3t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s5A8YZat5iPqJlqCvCYsFjg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D9.70062954938031%26panoid%3D5A8YZat5iPqJlqCvCYsFjg%26yaw%3D144.75620963746667!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI0MTIxMS4wIKXMDSoJLDEwMjExMjMzSAFQAw%3D%3D

Please could you advise me on what to do next? It's been almost 2 weeks since I received the debt recovery.

Thanks

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