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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 09:53:41 am

Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Enceladus on December 15, 2024, 03:04:36 am
https://www.google.com/local/place/fid/0x48761b1b9353a419:0xab86cd4e12fbe287/photosphere?iu=https://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?panoid%3DO5Ymrw1IE4joFrR7tZZQBQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26yaw%3D311.56125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100%26w%3D888%26h%3D660&ik=CAISFk81WW1ydzFJRTRqb0ZyUjd0WlpRQlE%3D

Currently there are road works, the council allowed parking on single yellow lines, but in my case the warden decided that its near a footway that is closed...
What leads you to believe that the single yellow lines have been suspended? Is there a notice somewhere?

The evidence photos show  a single yellow line on the carriageway in front of your car and it extends round the corner behind your car. So it runs, uninterrupted, past the lowered kerb and the tactile paving.

Is it your position that you were misled into believing you could park there as the single yellow line was there and had been suspended?
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Incandescent on December 14, 2024, 06:08:11 pm
here i presume

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SJt41Dj17yjnMZRv6
Looks like it.
So OP, you were parked across the dropped kerbs with the wobbly paving stones, and just so you don't miss them, the council or somebody has painted the dropped kerb white. The contravention would therefore seem to be made out.

There may be a technical appeal argument based on the council management of the enforcement process and maybe PCN content, although the PCN looks OK to me. SO wait for others to comment but don't miss any deadlines on the PCN that may restrict your payment or appeal options.
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: mickR on December 14, 2024, 02:38:43 pm
here i presume

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SJt41Dj17yjnMZRv6
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Incandescent on December 14, 2024, 01:14:22 pm
OP, can you please post a GSV view to the exact location. The one you've posted doesnt seem to match the photo you have posted.
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: mickR on December 14, 2024, 12:38:25 pm
hold on you've only just posted the PCN and it's clear you haven't understood the contravention.
you are accused of parking next to a dropped kerb for crossing the road. nothing whatsoever do do with road works, closed footway or anything else.
it's your call to go elsewhere for advice but don't expect volunteers on any site to be sitting waiting for you to post your question.
someone will be along to advise in due course

oh and just to let you know some of the experts you are asking for help are on mse as well
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 12:25:52 pm
I submitted my appeal, it seems that there are issues with the site, also i didn't get response from previous threads ...pepipoo was a lot better, I will consider moneysupermarket, they are quite good, but thanks anyway for trying to help
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 12:06:49 pm
The whole AgaR Grove is closed, no access as the signage suggests, not sure if you see the pics I'm uploading or not.
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: H C Andersen on December 14, 2024, 11:52:54 am
but in my case the warden decided that its near a footway that is closed...

I think you misunderstand.

The clear dropped footway serves to assist pedestrians:

Cross St. Paul's Crescent at this point for the purposes of continuing west along Agar OR

Cross from the west to the east side of St. Paul's in order to progress east along Agar.

The latter has nothing to do with the westbound footway being closed and therefore IMO you're bang-to-rights as regards the contravention.
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 11:39:17 am
Again here in case

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Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 11:36:22 am
Once more attached picture I hope it will go through

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Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 11:30:58 am
I think something wrong with the site, I posted already, I can see it on my phone, but not on desktop version
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: mickR on December 14, 2024, 11:18:53 am
??
that's the location you've posted again

we need the front of the PCN
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 11:07:34 am
Not sure why it's not showing, I posted pictures of the location too earlier, anyway here we go again

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Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: mickR on December 14, 2024, 11:03:21 am
front of PCN please
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 11:00:16 am
https://www.google.com/local/place/fid/0x48761b1b9353a419:0xab86cd4e12fbe287/photosphere?iu=https://streetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com/v1/thumbnail?panoid%3DO5Ymrw1IE4joFrR7tZZQBQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.gws-prod.gps%26yaw%3D311.56125%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100%26w%3D888%26h%3D660&ik=CAISFk81WW1ydzFJRTRqb0ZyUjd0WlpRQlE%3D

Currently there are road works, the council allowed parking on single yellow lines, but in my case the warden decided that its near a footway that is closed...

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Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: mickR on December 14, 2024, 10:40:21 am
Parked as the footpath and road was closed, git a ticket. Since we had major road, we are being affected.

Do you have a question??
Title: Re: Footway closed
Post by: John U.K. on December 14, 2024, 10:08:01 am
For meaningful advice, please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post here both sides of the unredacted PCN and a GSV link to the location.
Title: Footway closed
Post by: Sal71 on December 14, 2024, 09:53:41 am
Parked as the footpath and road was closed, git a ticket. Since we had major road, we are being affected.

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