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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: stamfordn on August 21, 2023, 06:35:09 pm

Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: cp8759 on September 22, 2023, 05:27:26 pm
You can request £19 an hour for your time, plus any out of pocket expenses (if there are any).

You have to argue that the authority has been wholly unreasonable in rejecting your representations.

It would be best to put a draft on here before emailing it to the tribunal.
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on September 21, 2023, 04:16:52 pm
How do I request an application for cost and how much cost can I get
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: cp8759 on September 09, 2023, 05:02:28 pm
I'd suggest an application for costs:

(https://i.imgur.com/RvaMspk.png)
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: Hippocrates on September 07, 2023, 02:38:43 pm
I would say go for it.
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on September 03, 2023, 03:39:31 pm
Dear,

 

Thank you for your email,

 

Unfortunately if you wish to be included as an interested party in this case you would need to make a formal application requesting as per; Additionally form EX160 (Help with fees) helps cover court fees if you have difficulties paying them. You can attempt to complete the application and if eligible it will cover the fee of your application.

 

Regards,

Emmanuel Membu * Official *

Administrative Court Office Team Leader | Issues and Enquiries

King’s Bench Division | HMCTS | Royal Courts of Justice| Strand, London | WC2A 2LL

Phone: 020 7947 6655 (Option 6)

Web: www.gov.uk/hmcts

Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on August 31, 2023, 04:26:05 pm
Done
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: cp8759 on August 31, 2023, 03:54:31 pm
Quote from: stamfordn on August 27, 2023, 03:41:10 pm
Do I need to Mention details of my PCN?
No.
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on August 27, 2023, 03:41:10 pm
Do I need to Mention details of my PCN?
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: cp8759 on August 27, 2023, 03:30:43 pm
Also send an email to generaloffice@administrativecourtoffice.justice.gov.uk and CC Rule6CPRService@tfl.gov.uk

Subject: The King on the application of Transport for London v London Tribunals (Environment and Traffic Adjudicators) - CO/2884/2023

Dear Administrative Court Office,

I am aware that Transport for London is seeking to challenge the decision by a panel of London Tribunals adjudicators in the case of Commercial Plant Services Ltd and others v Transport for London (2230060716, 25 May 2023). I am in receipt of an impacted penalty charge notice issued by Transport for London, which Transport for London seeks to enforce against me and which is currently before the tribunal, I therefore consider that I have a direct interest in the outcome of the judicial review.

I am not in a position to make a formal application on form N244 as the irrecoverable costs would be prohibitive.

Yours faithfully,
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: Pastmybest on August 23, 2023, 06:07:41 pm
No that is fine ask for a telephone hearing, this can be changed later more can be added in response to TfL's response
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on August 23, 2023, 05:13:09 pm
Thank you for your response,

Yes the sign I posted a picture of is the current sign.

I would like to submit now my appeal to London Tribunal whith very basic information.

As follows

1) The contrevantion did not occur as I was parked outside of the restricted hours as is evidenced from sign picture attched.

2) As per panel decision Commercial Plant Services Ltd and others v Transport for London
Date:
25 May 2023
Case no:
2230060716 + Others
Subject:
CCTV

TFL is not allowed to issue a PCN by CCTV.

Do I need to add anything else?

I am very Thankfull to all your help.
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: John U.K. on August 22, 2023, 07:48:46 pm
Panel decision:

Commercial Plant Services Ltd and others v Transport for London
Date:
25 May 2023
Case no:
2230060716 + Others
Subject:
CCTV

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/keycases/Red%20Route%20Panel%20Decision.pdf
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: Pastmybest on August 22, 2023, 07:11:34 pm
The only question is, is the signage as posted. If so file your appeal saying only that you rely on your representation to the council and add the picture of the sign and also that you further rely on the panel decision. i do not have it to hand but someone will guide you to it
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on August 21, 2023, 06:49:55 pm
I do not have a copy, I logged in online explained I was parked after the restricted hours, and attached the picture of the sign.
Title: Re: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: John U.K. on August 21, 2023, 06:46:28 pm
Sometimes one cannot help wondering if Mr.Milton is on commission from TfL.....

Not only does he ignore your rep., he also ignores the panel decision from London Tribunals.

Rant over!
Please could you post a copy of your reps.
Title: TFL, code 46 parked on a red route (Loading box) or clearway, Egerton Road N16, Parked after Hours
Post by: stamfordn on August 21, 2023, 06:35:09 pm
Dear All,

I parked in a red route Loading box with restrictions between 7am - 7pm I parked at 20:26 as shown on the PCN.

I emailed TFL with a picture of the sign and my represantion was rejected.



Google street view

(Signage on street view is not upto date)

https://goo.gl/maps/AMzmLFXd39DkiAZ7A



Images from the ticket and rejection notice

(https://i.imgur.com/6cX6m36.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/U7rN1zZ.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/j3hZNm1.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1CijMAj.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/N5QkI7Z.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/1eNrOEG.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/CZM43aK.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0fLqlgc.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/OxSCTG0.jpeg)

Thank you very much in advance.