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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: concoj on December 12, 2024, 11:30:23 pm
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Exactly, but it didn’t look expired and that shouldn’t be possible. Their website shouldn’t have allowed us to joined
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We used an expired link. Mea culpa. Easily happens when not feeling 100%. Or being in sunnier climes. 8) Fortunately, the adjudicator agreed with my points made in the skeleton argument. I would have simply reiterated the signage issue in any event.
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I do not understand why the link didn’t expired. Just waiting in the virtual room to be called like silly sausages 🤣
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2250161636 . ;D ;D ;D
And on the documents alone too ! The appellant did not attend or his authorised rep.
We were The Missing Link! Our error for which I have apologised.
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🤣😀😩😂🤣😀😩😂😜😜😜
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2250161636 . ;D ;D ;D
And on the documents alone too ! The appellant did not attend or his authorised rep.
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Caso cerrado! Congratulations mr Hippocrates another victory. Case closed!
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Outcome (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bOM3J3Mau1Rh8CwtvzYC09Lo0gUQw4ym/view).
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2250161636 . ;D ;D ;D
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Edited.
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I know (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji31.png)
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Webpage is too general.
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Worth a punt, amigo. ;D
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OP, as an erstwhile resident of Havana Rd, I don't follow the logic here.
Lucien doesn't lead to anywhere other than Wim Park Rec some 30m from where you turned. Coincidence that you were visiting the rec since the restriction was introduced?
And as for their reply.... 'restrictions at Ricards Lodge High School'...FFS, this is miles away!
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Finally responded with NOTICE OF REJECTION.
Please advise how to proceed
Thank you
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Acknowledgement Email
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Please show.
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Thank you Incandescent, lets fight this one. Just made representations today fingers-cross. I'll keep you updated
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Exactly, I didn’t show this sign as a drove back then.
Shouldn’t be a sign on the left-hand side advising of this time restricted prohibition?
Is this PCN fightable? 😬😬
It's fightable, but its not a slam-dunk win situation, I'm afraid, and as the council are only interested in your money, you would have to take them to London Tribunals. You would emphasise the lack of advance warning of the restriction, pointing out that if this had been in place, the offence would not have occurred. Their yellow sign is NOT an advance warning at all, totally useless in fact. Councils have a duty under LATOR, (Regulation 18) to place adequate signage of traffic restrictions.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/contents
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Exactly, I didn’t show this sign as a drove back then.
Shouldn’t be a sign on the left-hand side advising of this time restricted prohibition?
Is this PCN fightable? 😬😬
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Thank you Incasdescent,
I went back to the crime scene, I hope the footage I made is helpful
https://imgur.com/a/OdCbCst
A yellow non-traffic sign is positioned as you drive up to the T-junction. Really they should have put this sign, or an even better, a traffic sign-compliant, sign on the approach. Having said that the restriction signs are quite prominent at driver level, but turning right at a T-junction demands that the driver pay attention to traffic moving past and any pedestrians who may attempt to cross in front of him.
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Thank you Incasdescent,
I went back to the crime scene, I hope the footage I made is helpful
https://imgur.com/a/OdCbCst
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Looks like this is a fairly new restriction because it isn't shown on the latest GSV view of 2022. The junction view is 2018 !!
The usual way to fight these is on inadeqate or even missing signage, but with nothing on GSV, you will need to do some legwork and take photos of the signs as you approach the junction. Are you able to do this ?
There is a video on-line on their website; this is the sole evidence of the contravention. I looked on their website and the video shows you turning right out of Gordondale Road into Lucien Road. The signs showing "End of pedestrian and cycle zone" can be seen. The "Flying Motorbike" signs barring your entry will be on the other side of these. So what we need to know is, is there any advance warning sign as you approach the T-junction. If there isn't, your case to take them to adjudication is much, much stronger, because the signs are right on the junction as you turn when your attention is, rightly, elsewhere.
So, OP, more info please.
There may also be a "technical" appeal available based on the council management of the enforcement process and content of the PCN, but I'll leave this aspect for those much more expert than me.
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Oh noooooo, it seems I missed the sign as I turned onto Lucien Rd last month.
Any idea if I can walk free from this pcn?
Please kindly advise
Thanks in advance
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