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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Phaeton55 on December 11, 2024, 11:11:41 pm
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Outcome (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1X-S2mL2jygApHh74b1fH3V6RvcUwYQuK/view).
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Case reference 2250078725 ;D
Not all gone native then? Well done :)
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Case reference 2250078725 ;D
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Decision deferred.
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They have also erected warning signs just after you turn in to Quebec Way to: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eD4EHscQ4ZyAzXYa9
These are not traffic signs as defined in the regulations.
Indeed:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/18
(2) The time of day must be shown in the 12-hour clock format.
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Appeal filed and pending.
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I will draft a representation privately. Hi Southwark guys, if you are watching. ;D
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PCN: JK12426029
Based on the small picture, it appears I exited Wolfe Crescent on the afternoon of 02/12/2024, after arriving the night before in the pitch dark and heavy rain on Sunday, 01/12/2024. I stayed overnight at an Airbnb and left on Monday, 02/12/2024.
I’ve now received a PCN but am unsure what contravention occurred. Should I request video evidence first or make an informal representation?
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Correction : Arrived at AirbBNB on 24.11.24 22:00 pm (Sunday) and left on 25.11 in the AM (Monday)
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My bad I ve put down the wrong dates as it was the weekend prior. When we had all the storms and terrible weather
Arrived at AirbBNB on 24.11.24 22:00 pm (Sunday) and left on 25.11 in the AM (Monday)
I'll update the original post
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@Phaeton55 The PCN is flawed re the date they may serve a charge certificate. Happy to do this one for you.
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Should I request video evidence first or make an informal representation?
I am assuming you drove out of Wolfe Crescent, turning left into Canada St and shortly after, drove past these signs: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4LJugBpJe7ovx3oR6
HOwever, a look on the Southwark webpage for paying a PCN shows the signs are now brought forward so they are right on the corner as you turn left; easy to miss, so maybe that's why they altered their position to make more money, as I cannot see any reason at all why they were moved.
They mean "No Entry for motor vehicles" and there is a timeplate below giving the times when the restriction applies. These are found all over London now, and it is useless relying on satnav alone, you must look out for signs like this when off the main streets, or even when you're on them ! You drove past at 15.39 according to the PCN, well within the restricted afternoon period.
If you drove to your AirBnB along Quebec Way you would have passed this sign, which obviousl you missed
https://maps.app.goo.gl/PsjPYyNg5hcxW9zL8
They have also erected warning signs just after you turn in to Quebec Way to: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/eD4EHscQ4ZyAzXYa9
These are not traffic signs as defined in the regulations.
You have the absolute right in law to submit representations against the PCN, and if rejected, take them to London Tribunals, but if you do this the full PCN penalty will be in play.
If you go here and enter your PCN Number and car reg, you will be able to see their camera evidence.
https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking-streets-and-transport/parking/parking-tickets/pay-your-parking-ticket
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PCN: JK12426029
Based on the small picture, it appears I exited Wolfe Crescent on the afternoon of 02/12/2024, after arriving the night before in the pitch dark and heavy rain on Sunday, 01/12/2024. I stayed overnight at an Airbnb and left on Monday, 02/12/2024.
I’ve now received a PCN but am unsure what contravention occurred. Should I request video evidence first or make an informal representation?
Front
https://ibb.co/ZVGgR8s
Back
https://ibb.co/9rhz9tQ
Page 2
Front
https://ibb.co/CKLWXhT
Back
https://ibb.co/4YHkxT8
Location : https://maps.app.goo.gl/gAmypeP9sc4YvP4MA