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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: finest1 on December 11, 2024, 06:04:16 pm

Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on February 10, 2025, 03:18:27 pm: Hi all

update: i received a letter, or notice from the TEC. i would like some help in what i need to do now

i attach the letter many thanks

https://i.ibb.co/Fb6Rp41L/Notification-that-a-statutory-declarationwitness.jpg (https://i.ibb.co/Fb6Rp41L/Notification-that-a-statutory-declarationwitness.jpg)
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on January 16, 2025, 05:19:14 pm: thanks. i got appointment with CC to countersign forms
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: Incandescent on January 14, 2025, 05:53:49 pm: There is no need for a reason because your submission is 'in-time'. It's a different story when you are out-of-time.
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on January 14, 2025, 05:46:04 pm: hi all

i finally received the Order for Recovery of unpaid Penalty Charge Form PE2 and PE3

from the council

regarding the PE3 form under My reasons are (give full reason) should i leave this blank or fill this in?

thanks
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on December 24, 2024, 12:29:07 pm: thanks

is there any advice on my situation? i know there are a lot of cases on this forum, I just wanted to know what other thought

thanks

finest1
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: Incandescent on December 19, 2024, 07:56:13 pm: Quote from: finest1 on December 19, 2024, 07:45:31 pm
hello all

i wanted to update that i have phoned TEC everyday and the PCN has not been logged with them. i'm wondering what would happen next with Barnet council. will it go to baliff stage?
It cannot proceed to bailiff stage until the debt is registered at TEC, because the council cannot instruct bailiffs without a warrant from a court. TEC is the equivalent of a county court.

It can be many weeks before a council register a PCN debt with TEC. It is pointless phoning everyday, once a week is sufficient. You can also check on the Barnet website for the amount outstanding. When it increases by £10 over the Charge Certificate amount, the debt has been registered.
Title: Re: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on December 19, 2024, 07:45:31 pm: hello all

i wanted to update that i have phoned TEC everyday and the PCN has not been logged with them. i'm wondering what would happen next with Barnet council. will it go to baliff stage?
Title: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone bethune road
Post by: finest1 on December 11, 2024, 06:04:16 pm: Barnet council, 53J failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone (camera enforcement)Bethune Avenue south of the ridgeway N11 Multiple PCNS

Hello All, thanks for taking the time to look at this

Car registered under my name with Wife as named driver. She accidentally went through a time restricted area, passing 2 areas going and return. This created four PCNs

She appealed during the 28 days notice period. As she is not working, part of the appeal was a suggestion that she could pay 2 x PCN’s and if they could disallow the other two, as this would put her in financial difficulty

At this stage, she paid 2 PCN’s as 1) she did not want to incur any debt and 2) prove she was serious about her request of paying 2 and hopefully getting 2 cancelled

Here comes the confusing part, well for me anyway:

27/11/24 I received a “charge certificate” explaining that I did not appeal and therefore the charge has gone up and to pay. No contact details given

28/11/24 I received another letter explaining that they did receive a “correspondence” from my wife but they cannot act on it as I am the registered keeper and I did not give consent or make a representation. Letter states for me to do so. As the 28 days has passed to personally appeal, I sent them a letter authorising my wife to be point of contact and to use her appeal

9/12/24 I received a further letter saying the fine has increased and a “ loose” reference to whether they have acted on my authorisation, which isn’t clear. It will be passed to debt recovery

I was following this walkthrough Charge certificates - London Local Authorities and TfL Act 2003 & London Local Authorities Act 1996 - no NoR (https://www.ftla.uk/announcements/charge-certificates-london-local-authorities-and-tfl-act-2003-london-l-1805/) and thought let me reach out for an opinion and advice. According to the walkthrough, and you may have sussed it already, I DID NOT receive a NOR.

Please let me know if you need any further information

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thanks
Finest1

roads mentioned are:

Bethune avenue south of the ridgeway N11

https://maps.app.goo.gl/GHmyv25GeZMEe7Ny8

Belleview road north of holly park N11

https://maps.app.goo.gl/fTtswBundYnUkjKU6