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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: tfla-user on November 20, 2024, 10:17:54 am

Title: Re: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: tfla-user on November 27, 2024, 12:13:23 pm

Wondering if I can use unclear signage to appeal.
Or this will not work and better to pay before the 14 days expire.

Appreciate any feedback on this.
Thanks

Title: Re: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: stamfordman on November 20, 2024, 03:50:29 pm

You parked facing the parking allowed sign. Why would you look on the other side?

(https://i.imgur.com/jWlKmJS.jpeg)

Title: Re: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: Incandescent on November 20, 2024, 12:16:27 pm

Quote from: tfla-user on November 20, 2024, 11:30:36 am

Thanks for the prompt reply.

here is the back of the penalty notice:

https://imgur.com/a/QEkaxye

Back looks OK. We look for certain information regarding submitting reps that is a legal requirement, so if it's missing the PCN is void.

Title: Re: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: tfla-user on November 20, 2024, 11:30:36 am

Thanks for the prompt reply.

here is the back of the penalty notice:

https://imgur.com/a/QEkaxye

Title: Re: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: Incandescent on November 20, 2024, 10:33:44 am

In order to allow parking off-carriageway, the council first have to pass a resolution to over-ride the 1970s London-specific Act that barred off-carriageway parking. If all this resolution does is list the streets where the off-carriageway parking is allowed, then you have an appeal argument, as it is the resolution that counts, not the sign. In most cases seen on this forum, the council refuse the reps, and then one h as to go to London Tribunals for an answer. I'm not an expert on this aspect of London-specific legislation, but I expect somebody will be on soon to take you through it.

Please post the back of the PCN so the text can be checked for fatal errors. 

Title: Hillingdon, Code 62 - Parked with one or more wheels or a footpath, Hayes
Post by: tfla-user on November 20, 2024, 10:17:54 am

Hi,

First time getting a PCN and was pointed here from Moneysavingexpert website.

Appreciate your help as i believe signage was bit misleading - blame it on a very cold morning.

PCN received on 19/11/2024 at 9:06am
I have parked on the half of the car on road and other half on footpath. I have checked the signage and thought this was the acceptable area to park as the other side had no parking on footpath.

I did not understand that the sign is indicating start of parking on footpath - first time seeing this as i dont usually park in this location.

The location is of the incident ca be found here: https://maps.app.goo.gl/HbdY6kbfL9rmjW826

Only posting first page as second page is is how to pay.

Struggling to embed or link image: here is the URL: https://imgur.com/a/MTEwmK3

Additional images captured by warden:
https://hillingdonparking.apcoa.co.uk/GetImage.aspx?2635710FgK1tVg%2f282AhlScRqPA2PxlT0QXsYLDUbXLJgCO%2bwM8ktywDJtbMQhgZqroazSOI3G78djZgYKbc6VD8SxQw%3d%3d
https://hillingdonparking.apcoa.co.uk/GetImage.aspx?263571%2bbrWfi3orLRo2su83Z3lo6GHwKYsrhiXMVuGgK1L1agETSj425ecj4H63kA8LDcPdxb7GK3UtIMCzNfK0jkLBA%3d%3d

I had space on the other side to park but due to misunderstanding the signage parked on the wrong side.

I really appreciate your help on how to appeal this before the 14 day cut-off.

Thanks