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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: jimimac on November 18, 2024, 01:11:07 pm

Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: DWMB2 on January 16, 2026, 11:54:28 am
You may wish to redact your home address from that letter.

It's not strange for the court system to be glacially slow but given the urgency of the matter you would be sensible to chase. Expect long hold times on the phone but persevere.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on January 16, 2026, 11:39:09 am
I received this last week (sorry for late upload i was down with the flu) - again from the DCBL people.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XnFk714TiPGEmsYQ7QI0nNnijjo7JzAH/view?usp=sharing

I also havent heard anything from the CNBC about the N244 application which seems strange as the application and payment were made in early december.

SHould I be chasing it up or is this normal?

Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 17, 2025, 04:22:28 pm
Once again thank you so much!
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on December 17, 2025, 02:17:38 pm
You should reply, but only briefly and on your terms. They are trying to fish for something they can later use to argue “service was good” or to justify their failure to trace.

You can respond without giving them anything beyond what you are already putting before the court, and you should make clear the N244 has been filed and the fee paid.

Send something like this:

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Subject: Elite Car Parking Management Ltd v James McGrother – Claim M8KF60F5 – N244 filed

Dear Sirs,

I acknowledge your email.

A contested N244 application has now been filed with the Court and the £313 court fee paid. The application and supporting evidence address the issue of service and my address at the material time.

For the avoidance of doubt, I did not reside at 194a Highamhill Road, E17 5RQ in April 2025. The claim form and subsequent documents were not served on me at my current address and I had no knowledge of the proceedings until I discovered the CCJ via my credit file.

You may still take the opportunity to consent to the set aside and strike out on the terms previously provided. However, any such consent must now also include reimbursement of the £313 N244 court fee already paid. Otherwise, please direct any further submissions to the Court in response to the N244 once served.

Yours faithfully,

James McGrother
[Current address]
[Email]

That wording keeps you fully in control, closes off fishing, and makes the £313 non-negotiable without escalating or inviting argument.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 17, 2025, 02:02:20 pm
I've just received the following email from DCB Legal Ltd in reply to my email that gave them 10 days and was sent on 19th Nov 2025.

Is this something I should reply to now that i've applied for an n244 and paid my court fee?

Thanks

Dear James Mcgrother,

We write further to your correspondence below.

In order to review the matter further, please provide to confirm your residency for the period of April 2025.

We look forward to hearing from you. 

Kind Regards, 


Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on December 04, 2025, 12:37:39 pm
do i fill in this section on the n244?

Name of Court: Civil National Business Centre or just put CNBC
Claim No.: the claim number as on the N1SDT Claim Form
Claimants Name: Elite Car Parking Management Ltd
Defendants Name: Your full name
Date: the date you complete the form

Nothing else needed on there.

Also should I put DCBL's address in 9a? the wording has confused me a little ha

Yes.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 04, 2025, 12:30:34 pm
Also should I put DCBL's address in 9a? the wording has confused me a little ha

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JmaMELVViR-YaPCdY3z95P59u53xKOKH/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 04, 2025, 12:11:42 pm
do i fill in this section on the n244?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1etVw5CapSE1eFFGIWYk8M77GYP98dC0E/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 03, 2025, 04:24:07 pm
Incredible - thanks again I will submit this tomorrow.

Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on December 03, 2025, 02:00:24 pm
You now need to submit a contested N244 application because DCB Legal ignored the 10-day consent offer. The application seeks to set aside the default judgment under CPR 13.2, alternatively CPR 13.3, and then strike out the underlying claim because it was never validly served within four months of issue under CPR 7.5(1). You will also ask for the £313 fee and Litigant in Person (LiP) costs.

You will need to submit:
• Form N244
• A witness statement in support
• A draft order
• Exhibits
• Payment of the £313 fee

N244 instructions:

Download the form here: N244 Application Notice (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65eb1c6b5b652445f6f21b01/N244_0622_save.pdf)

Box 1: Write your full name exactly as it appears on the judgment.
Box 2: Tick Defendant.
Box 3: Write the following:

The Defendant applies for:
(1) An order that the default judgment entered in Claim No. M8KF60F5 in or about April 2025 be set aside pursuant to CPR 13.2, on the basis that the claim form was never validly served on the Defendant and the judgment was wrongly entered.
(2) In the alternative, an order setting aside the default judgment pursuant to CPR 13.3, on the grounds that the Defendant has a real prospect of successfully defending the claim and has acted promptly upon discovering the judgment.
(3) Following the setting aside of judgment, an order that the Claimant’s claim be struck out pursuant to CPR 7.5(1) and/or CPR 3.4(2)(c), on the basis that the claim form was not validly served within the four-month period specified by CPR 7.5(1) and has now expired.
(4) An order that the Claimant pay the Defendant’s costs of and occasioned by this application, including the £313 court fee and the Defendant’s litigant-in-person costs at the published hourly rate.

Box 4: Tick Yes and attach the draft order below.
Box 5: Tick “at a hearing”.
Box 6: Write “1 hour”. Judge level “District Judge”.
Box 7: Write “Not applicable”.
Box 8: District Judge.
Box 9: Write “The Claimant, care of DCB Legal Ltd”. Allow the court to serve.
Box 10: Tick that the application is supported by “the attached witness statement” and attach the witness statement. Do not tick the option about “the evidence set out in the box below”.

Sign by simply typing your full name and date.

Below is the witness statement for you to use.

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: M8KF60F5

BETWEEN:

Elite Car Parking Management Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



WITNESS STATEMENT

1. I am the Defendant. I make this statement in support of my application to set aside the default judgment entered against me in Claim No. M8KF60F5 and to strike out the underlying claim.

2. I first became aware of the judgment in November 2025 when checking my credit file. Before that I had received no Letter of Claim, no Claim Form, no Particulars of Claim, and no judgment at my current address. I therefore had no knowledge of the claim.

3. The judgment relates to an alleged parking event on 27 September 2024 at Eddington 4hr Zone, Cambridge. On that date parking was paid for via the JustPark app for the correct vehicle and location. The booking remains visible in my JustPark account and is supported by a corresponding bank transaction.

4. At the time the Claimant and its agents were sending correspondence, I was living at 194a Highamhill Road. I moved to my current address in January 2025 and immediately updated my address with the DVLA for both the V5C and my driving licence.

5. I did not receive any pre-action letter compliant with the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims, nor any Claim Form or judgment at my current address. The only correspondence I became aware of was a DCBL debt collection letter that arrived at the old address in late 2024.

6. The Civil National Business Centre confirmed that the claim was treated as served on 7 April 2025 at the old Highamhill Road address and judgment was entered shortly afterward when no acknowledgment of service or defence was filed.

7. The claim form was not validly served. By April 2025 I no longer lived at the Highamhill Road address. The Claimant continued sending correspondence there and received no reply, giving them clear reason to believe the address was no longer current.

8. Under CPR 6.9(3) the Claimant was required to take reasonable steps to ascertain my correct address before serving the claim form. A simple trace or credit reference search would have identified my current address. The Claimant did not take those steps.

9. The Claimant is bound by the Private Parking Single Code of Practice. Section 10.1 requires operators to take reasonable steps to ensure they are using the correct address and not to continue enforcement where there is reason to believe the address is stale. They ignored that obligation.

10. I will rely on Carr v Vehicle Control Services Ltd [2025] EWCA Civ 713 where the Court of Appeal upheld the setting aside of a default judgment and strike out due to failure to comply with CPR 6.9(3).

11. The judgment must therefore be set aside under CPR 13.2 as it was wrongly entered following invalid service.

12. If the Court finds the judgment was regularly entered, I seek set aside under CPR 13.3. I acted promptly upon discovering the judgment. I also have a real prospect of defending the claim. The Particulars of Claim allege that the vehicle was not registered on the JustPark app. That allegation is plainly wrong.

13. Following the set aside, the claim must be struck out. The claim form was never validly served within the four-month period required by CPR 7.5(1) and has therefore expired. No extension was sought under CPR 7.6.

14. The continuation of an unjust judgment is causing serious prejudice including the risk of harm to my credit position given an upcoming mortgage renewal.

15. I ask the Court to order the Claimant to pay the £313 fee and my litigant-in-person costs because their failure to comply with CPR 6.9(3) and the Code of Practice directly caused the need for this application.

16. For all the reasons above I request that the default judgment be set aside, the claim struck out, and costs awarded.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Witness Statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Below is the draft order.

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: M8KF60F5

BETWEEN:

Elite Car Parking Management Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DRAFT ORDER
DRAFT ORDER

UPON the Defendant’s application

IT IS ORDERED THAT:

1. The default judgment entered in or about April 2025 is set aside pursuant to CPR 13.2 on the basis that the claim form was never validly served on the Defendant.

2. In the alternative, if the Court finds that the judgment was regularly entered, the default judgment is set aside pursuant to CPR 13.3 on the grounds that the Defendant has a real prospect of successfully defending the claim and acted promptly upon discovering it.

3. Following the setting aside of judgment, the Claimant’s claim is struck out pursuant to CPR 7.5(1) and/or CPR 3.4(2)(c) as the claim form was not validly served within the permitted four-month period and has expired.

4. The Claimant shall pay the Defendant’s costs of the application, including the £313 fee, within 14 days.

5. Liberty to apply.
Finally, you must email the N244, witness statement, draft order and exhibits to the Civil National Business Centre at Applications.CNBC@justice.gov.uk and CC yourself and then phone to pay the £313 fee. The application will then be transferred to your local hearing centre for a short hearing.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 03, 2025, 12:06:28 pm
That would be great thank you!
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on December 01, 2025, 05:20:31 pm
So they have not responded within 10 days to the proposed consent order. You now have to file your won N244 with a contested application for set aside. This will cost £313 but you will claim those costs back from the claimant.

It is now too late today for me to do this so please remind me over the next few days to explain how you do this.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 01, 2025, 02:53:11 pm
Ok received another baliff letter this morning but nothing relating to the email I sent previously with the the draft consent order and set aside stuff.

(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mhefYWF8MOP86OifIWTPzgsakkl9xwri/view?usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 19, 2025, 05:40:25 pm
Amazing - thank you so much!

Jim
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on November 19, 2025, 04:46:30 pm
So, the claim was never served within 4 months, therefore it cannot be revived after set aside. Before submitting a contested N244 application for set aside, you should give the claimant an opportunity to consent to a set aside which is cheaper for them, If they don't agree, then you file your own N244 contested set aside.

Foer now, you should email the following to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself. You attach the separate draft order as a PDF to the email:

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Subject: Elite Car Parking Management Ltd v [My Full Name] – Claim M8KF60F5 – Default Judgment and Proposed Consent Order

Dear Sirs,

Re: Elite Car Parking Management Ltd v [My Full Name]
Claim No: M8KF60F5
Your Ref: 117098.4059D


I write as the Defendant in the above claim.

I recently discovered, via my credit file, that a default County Court Judgment was entered against me in April 2025. Prior to that, I had received no Letter of Claim, Claim Form or judgment at my current address and had no knowledge of the proceedings.

Background and mis-service

In brief:
• The alleged parking event is dated 27 September 2024 at “Eddington 4hr Zone, Cambridge, CB3 1AD”, relating to vehicle YD19 VPA.
• On that date, the driver paid for parking via the JustPark app for that vehicle and location. The booking remains visible in my JustPark account and is supported by the corresponding card/bank transaction. Your Particulars of Claim, which allege “vehicle not registered on Just Park app or displaying P&D ticket”, are therefore factually wrong.
• The only correspondence I actually saw was a DCBL debt recovery letter around 18 November 2024, sent to 194a Highamhill Road, E17 5RQ.
• I moved out of 194a Highamhill Road in January 2025 to my current address at [current address] and promptly updated my address with the DVLA (V5C) and on my driving licence.
• I have since been informed by the Civil National Business Centre that the claim was treated as served on 7 April 2025 and default judgment entered shortly thereafter, all to the old Highamhill Road address.

I did not receive any Letter of Claim, Claim Form or judgment at my current address and therefore had no opportunity to respond or defend the claim.

CPR 6.9(3), PPSCoP section 10.1 and Carr v VCS

You and your client are experienced bulk litigators. No initial NtK was ever received yet you sent multiple items of correspondence (debt recovery letters, Letter of Claim and Claim Form) to the Highamhill Road address and received no response at all. In those circumstances you plainly had reason to doubt that I was still resident there.

Under CPR 6.9(3), once there is reason to believe that the last known address is no longer current, a claimant must take reasonable steps to ascertain the defendant’s current address before serving the claim form. In practice, that means carrying out a simple tracing / credit reference search, which would have identified my current address. You did not do so.

Your client is also bound by the Private Parking Single Code of Practice v1.1 (17 February 2025). Section 10.1 requires operators, before debt recovery or legal action, to take reasonable steps to ensure that correspondence is being sent to the correct and current address of the keeper/debtor and not to continue enforcement where there is reason to believe that an address is no longer current. Persisting in issuing and serving proceedings to an obviously stale address, without a basic trace, is contrary to that obligation.

I will rely, among other authorities, on Carr v Vehicle Control Services Ltd [2025] EWCA Civ 713, where the Court of Appeal upheld the setting aside of a default judgment and the striking out of a private parking claim because the operator failed to take reasonable steps under CPR 6.9(3) to ascertain the defendant’s current address before service.

Intended application and strike-out

In light of the above, I am preparing a contested N244 application seeking:
1. An order setting aside the default judgment under CPR 13.2, on the basis that it was wrongly entered due to the claim form not being validly served on me;
2. In the alternative, an order under CPR 13.3, on the basis that I have a clear and real prospect of successfully defending the claim and have acted promptly upon discovering the judgment;
3. An order that, once the judgment is set aside, the claim be struck out pursuant to CPR 7.5(1) and/or CPR 3.4(2)(c), on the basis that the claim form was never validly served within four months of issue and has therefore expired; and
4. An order that the Claimant pay my costs of and occasioned by the application, including the £313 court fee and my reasonable litigant-in-person costs, in view of the unreasonable conduct in issuing and serving to a stale address contrary to CPR 6.9(3) and PPSCoP section 10.1.

Proposal for resolution by consent

To avoid unnecessary court time and further costs for all parties, I am prepared to resolve this by consent.

I enclose below a draft consent order for your consideration. In summary, it provides that:
• The default judgment is set aside under CPR 13.2, with an alternative under CPR 13.3;
• The claim is struck out once the judgment is set aside, due to non-service within four months under CPR 7.5(1); and
• The Claimant bears the costs of the application, including the court fee.

If your client is willing to accept responsibility for the position created by mis-service and to bear the cost of correcting it, then I invite you to:
1. Confirm, within 10 days of the date of this email, that you agree the enclosed draft order without amendment; and
2. Lodge an application with the court in those agreed terms at your client’s cost, copying me into both the application and the draft order filed, so that I can be sure no unilateral changes are made to my detriment.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not consent to any amendments to the enclosed draft order. If you consider that any wording requires alteration, you must propose those changes to me in writing and obtain my express written agreement before filing anything with the court.

If I have not received written confirmation that you agree the draft order and have submitted an application in those agreed terms within 10 days, I will proceed without further notice to issue my own contested N244 application, seeking the orders described above and inviting the court to make an adverse costs order against the Claimant for unreasonable conduct.

I look forward to your prompt confirmation.

Yours faithfully,

[Full Name]
[Current Address]
[Email]

Draft Consent Order (to enclose in the email)

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: M8KF60F5

BETWEEN:
ELITE CAR PARKING MANAGEMENT LTD
Claimant
-and-
[FULL NAME]
Defendant

DRAFT CONSENT ORDER

UPON the parties having agreed the terms of this order

BY CONSENT IT IS ORDERED THAT:

1. The default judgment entered on [date in April 2025] in Claim No. M8KF60F5 be set aside pursuant to CPR 13.2, on the basis that the judgment was wrongly entered because the claim form was not validly served on the Defendant.

2. In the alternative, if the Court finds that the judgment was regularly entered, the default judgment is set aside pursuant to CPR 13.3, on the basis that the Defendant has a real prospect of successfully defending the claim and has acted promptly upon becoming aware of the proceedings and the judgment.

3. Upon the judgment being set aside, the Claimant’s claim is struck out pursuant to CPR 7.5(1) and/or CPR 3.4(2)(c) on the ground that the claim form was not validly served within four months of the date of issue and has therefore expired.

4. The Claimant shall pay the Defendant’s costs of and occasioned by the application to set aside the default judgment, such costs to be summarily assessed in the total sum of £[insert – at least the £313 court fee, plus any agreed LiP sum], payable within 14 days of the date of this order.

5. There be liberty to apply.

Signed: ___________________________
For and on behalf of the Claimant
Elite Car Parking Management Ltd
(by its solicitors DCB Legal Ltd)

Dated: ___________________________

Signed: ___________________________
[Defendant’s full name]

Dated: ___________________________
If they fail to agree, come back in 20 days and I will provide the necessary information to apply for a contested N244 application.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 19, 2025, 03:08:06 pm
Ok I have the particulars of claim (attached)

the address used for service is "194a Highamhill Road, E17 5RQ" - my old address
the claim was considered served on 7th april 2025 - he couldnt tell me when it was issued
the claimant is "ELITE CAR PARKING MANAGEMENT  LTD"
the claimant solicitor is "DCB LEGAL LTD"

Please let me know any other info you need and i really appreciate your help.

PoC...

Claim No: M8KF60F5

Claimant: ELITE CAR PARKING MANAGEMENT  LTD

Claimant solicitor: DCB LEGAL LTD

Telephone: 0203 434 0433

Reference: 117098.4059D

Judgment amount: 284.20


Particulars of claim:
1. THE DEFENDANT (D) IS INDEBTED TO THE CLAIMANT (C) FOR A PARKING CHARGE(S) (PC) ISSUED TO VEHICLE YD19VPA AT EDDINGTON 4HR   ZONE, CAMBRIDGE, CB3 1AD.                   
2. THE DATE OF CONTRAVENTION IS 27/09/2024   AND THE D WAS ISSUED WITH PC(S) BY THE CLAIMANT   
3. THE DEFENDANT IS PURSUED AS THE DRIVER OF THE VEHICLE FOR BREACH OF THE TERMS ON THE SIGNS (THE CONTRACT). REASON:VEHICLE NOT     REGISTERED ON JUST PARK APP OR DISPLAYING    PANDD TICKET                                 4. IN THE ALTERNATIVE THE DEFENDANT IS PURSUED AS THE KEEPER PURSUANT TO POFA 2012, SCHEDULE 4.                                  AND THE CLAIMANT CLAIMS                     
1. £170 BEING THE TOTAL OF THE PC(S) AND DAMAGES.                                     
2. INTEREST AT A RATE OF 8% PER ANNUM PURSUANT TO S.69 OF THE COUNTY COURTS ACT 1984 FROM THE DATE HEREOF AT A DAILY RATE OF £.02 UNTIL JUDGMENT OR SOONER PAYMENT.       
3. COSTS AND COURT FEES       
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 19, 2025, 02:35:29 pm
Thank you i will get on with this
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on November 11, 2025, 06:12:36 pm
You must apply for a mandatory set aside under CPR 13.2. The claimant is under an obligation to make sure that if they receive no response to anything that the person they are pursuing still resides at the last known address.

Updating your V5C and drivers licence after you have received the original PCN means nothing. They were only allowed a single bite when they refused your DVLA data at the time. They cannot go back for it again.

All they had to do was a soft credit search and they would have likely found your current address. They didn't. Of course, if you'd remembered to update your address for service with them, this could have been avoided. However, that is not really your fault if they had not yet initiated any proceedings.

It will cost £313 to apply for the set aside but you will ask for those costs to be paid back as the claimant has acted unreasonably because they did not make any effort to find your current address after they did not receive any response to the LoC.

It just means that this is now dragged on for much longer than it would have.

Your very first act must be to phone the CNBC, preferably very first thing in the morning to avoid very long hold times. You must ask for the Particulars of Claim (PoC) to be emailed to you, while you wait on the phone. Also, get confirmation which address they used for service and the date the claim was issued and who, if anyone, represented the claimant.

This is all very important information that is needed for the set aside application and will also firm that if the claim was not served within 4 months of issue, it must be struck out. You need to act promptly.

Once set aside, the CCJ will be totally expunged from the record. It will not affect any credit applications in future.

So, first thing is to get the information I explained above, from the CNBC. Once you have that, show us the PoC and tell us who the claimant is (original images have been deleted) and, I am going to presume that they were represented by DCB Legal, but please confirm.

Once I have that info, I will guide you through the set aside application and process.

Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 11, 2025, 01:06:28 pm
I Should add that i have been to my old address to collect post a number of times this year and there was no LoC
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 11, 2025, 01:04:04 pm
No i didnt - I was told to ignore all correspondance from DCBL.

The parking company is Elite Car Parking Management Ltd
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 01:02:36 pm
And did you inform the parking company?
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 11, 2025, 12:56:44 pm
Yes i moved in Jan 2025 but updated my address on my licence and V5 right away.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/13smOzZdDofSUyQTMyAdYtXWXVXFojs-C/view?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: DWMB2 on November 11, 2025, 12:47:01 pm
Have you changed address between your last post and now?

Can you show us the letter you have now received?
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 11, 2025, 12:45:07 pm
Hi,

So almost a year later I have received a letter stating that I have a county court judgement against me (in April 2025) - I never received an LoC but after checking my credit report that shows the county court judgement.

I'm not sure what to do now - I have a mortgage up for renewal in 12 months so Im worried it will affect my credit score negatively especially as I havent paid it.

Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 10, 2024, 12:54:40 pm
Thanks!
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on December 09, 2024, 01:51:55 pm
DCBL are a debt collector. We do not need to see any debt collector correspondence and you need to ignore it. No debt collector can issue an LoC. In fact, no debt collector can do anything at all, which is why we tell you to ignore them.

A Letter of Claim (LoC) will be from either the unregulated private parking company themselves or, more likely, from one of several bulk litigation solicitors. As they are using DCBL for their useless debt collection threats, they will most likely use the sister company, DCB Legal to send you an LoC. The LoC will say "Letter of Claim" on it and has to follow some set rules known as the Pre Action Protocol (PAP).

So, if you're unsure whether a letter is a real LoC, have read of section 3 of the PAP for debt claims here:

https://www.justice.gov.uk/documents/debt-pap.pdf
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on December 09, 2024, 01:33:11 pm
Just received another bailiff lettewr (I dont think its the LOC) but I thought id add it here for clarity.

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Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on November 18, 2024, 03:45:27 pm
An LoC will give you 30 days to pay. Normal debt collector letters only give you 14 days.

Have a read of the Pre Action Protocols for debt claims, section 3, to understand what has to be provided in an LoC:

https://www.justice.gov.uk/documents/debt-pap.pdf
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 18, 2024, 03:41:29 pm
Thank you for the advice!

I'll file and ignore for now but come back when the LOC arrives.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: b789 on November 18, 2024, 03:11:48 pm
Ignore all debt collector letters. DCBL are impotent in this matter. They have no standing to do anything and must be ignored. Use their letters as kindling or line the bottom of a litter tray.

This is what is going to happen with over 99% certainty... You will eventually receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) from their sister company, DCB Legal. When you do let us know and we will provide a suitable response.

Eventually, they are going to issue a claim in the county court which will arrive as an N1SDT form from the CNBC. Again, show us the claim form when it arrives and we will advise on deadlines and provide the defence to use. In due course, they will discontinue the claim. I say this with greater than 99% certainty.

So, for now, do nothing until you get the LoC. No one who is receiving advice on here pays a penny to ECPM.
Title: Re: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: DWMB2 on November 18, 2024, 01:18:04 pm
Today I received a letter form a bailiff to collect £170 for a parking charge on private land.
Despite the name of the company, you should note the important text at the bottom of the letter:

"This case is not subject to High court or bailiff action"

Debt collectors like DCBL can be ignored. By this point any opportunity to appeal will have passed - you should file but ignore debt collector letters, and come back here for advice if you receive a "Letter of Claim" from solicitors, such as DCB Legal.

If the original notice and potentially a reminder have not been received, I would strongly recommend you get your V5C document out and double check that the address on it is correct.
Title: Bailiff letter from private parking company with no first letter
Post by: jimimac on November 18, 2024, 01:11:07 pm
Hi,

Today I received a letter form a bailiff to collect £170 for a parking charge on private land.

This is the first notice that I've received (we're diligent with making sure we open post).

What's more is that on the date the contravention took place the driver did purchase a parking ticket on the app Just Park - the booking is still on the app.

The bailiffs letter does not mention the time of the contravention, only the date and location.

So the main issues are that I dont know if the driver did contravene (by booking wrong location or overstaying) as details aren't on the letter, and also I didnt receive the first notice so I had no chance to resolve at the lower price.

I dont live near the area so I cant get pictures of the parking signage but the driver did park right under the sign and would have got the location code from the sign.

Letter attached below.



Advice welcomed.

J

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