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Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 16, 2024, 02:13:57 pm
Hi, just bumping this up. Are there any specific points I can make in an appeal - regarding either technicalities or the visibility of the signs? I'm not sure I want to take it to an adjudicator and risk paying double, but if there are strong grounds I'd consider it. Otherwise I think I'll have to pay the 65 before the 14 days run out.
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 11, 2024, 03:59:42 pm
Hi here are all the pages of the PCN

https://imgur.com/SxYhjsw

https://imgur.com/uMUtFVS

https://imgur.com/Oft4f4y
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: H C Andersen on November 11, 2024, 09:20:26 am
Post all pages of the PCN pl.

As regards: 'Is there anything in particular I can say that would give me a chance of getting this cancelled'

..by the council....not a chance IMO. Therefore your only option would be to take the matter to adjudication with the full penalty in play and an argument based upon the visibility of signs(those marking the entrance and the warning sign) and technical procedural points related to their representations procedures.
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 11, 2024, 08:31:43 am
Is there anything in particular I can say that would give me a chance of getting this cancelled?
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Hippocrates on November 10, 2024, 07:46:49 pm
There is plenty of time to compose a considered draft.
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 10, 2024, 11:45:36 am
Here's the page and yeah most of these reasons are BS and they'll never cancel a penalty for them. The main reason I was there was because of my satnav

https://imgur.com/y35gb2h
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Hippocrates on November 10, 2024, 11:34:24 am
Nope: first page which is BS:

Click your reason or search for it below
I wasn't aware of the rules
I was picking up/dropping off a passenger
it was an emergency
my satnav misdirected me
using cameras to catch drivers isn't fair
this is a hire car - the hirer should pay
Search all reasons
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 09, 2024, 10:14:44 pm
Hello - these are the screenshots

https://imgur.com/TCWJCHs

https://imgur.com/oMycYzJ

https://imgur.com/QmjnCcT
Title: Re: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Hippocrates on November 09, 2024, 07:20:40 pm
Welcome. Please go onto the website AS IF to challenge and screenshot the page and post it here.
Title: 53J Warrington Road Croydon
Post by: Amr76 on November 09, 2024, 04:14:11 pm
Hello,

I received this PCN a couple of days ago for driving down Warrington Road in Croydon. I was directed by a satnav and didn't notice the signs, partly due to the parked cars along Epsom Road, where the turning was.

Someone else posted recently saying they'd done the exact same thing and received the exact same penalty, noting that the signs are hard to see because of the trees: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/croydon-code-53j-pedestrian-zone-warrington-rd-by-epsom-rd/?topicseen

This is the PCN: https://imgur.com/MSnJ50q

Here is the location from Google maps: https://maps.app.goo.gl/oV17A8srcetYB3n88

I also went back and took photos of the signs in the area: https://imgur.com/OIWSebO
https://imgur.com/hyMk9OB

I would appreciate any advice or help. It also seems that this restriction was only put in place recently:
chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.croydon.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-09/pn178-cabinet-dec-22-experimental-prescribed-pedestrian-zone-outside-schools-grp-4-permanent-order-2024-greenwood-road-area-lennard-road-area-spurgeon-road-area-st-david-s-area-etc-made-notice.pdf