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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: nikhil on November 08, 2024, 09:45:27 am

Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: cp8759 on November 11, 2024, 01:22:37 am
@nikhil the fact that you've paid is irrelevant, your thread will not be deleted.

If you had made representations that would have preserved the discount, but you've thrown that option away.
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 11, 2024, 12:25:00 am
Thsnks its still in the discount period just, if i appeal today and its rejected can i still pay the reduced fee?
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: Incandescent on November 10, 2024, 06:49:11 pm
You've come on here rather too late for advice if you want to preserve the discount option. You look bang-to-rights on the contravention itself, but that's not necessarily the end of the story, because there could be a 'technical' appeal based on the council management of the enforcement process. But I see nobody has yet posted anything for this aspect.

We normally advise OPs to submit some reps and let us see the response which can lead to a successful appeal due to their stupdity, but if you're not prepared to forego the discount option, then paying it now seems your best option.
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 10, 2024, 12:06:37 am
Hi so is exit not being blocked and space for a right turning car all i have to appeal on?
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 08, 2024, 11:45:10 am
Thanks, plus there was still room for any cars to turn right, i didnt anticipate lights changing so quick and car in front was moving

Is there any other appeal grounds or template letter to use?
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: stamfordman on November 08, 2024, 10:51:25 am
You look to have fallen asleep - if you'd been awake you would have exited in the wide open left lane...

There was a time when you could argue the exit wasn't blocked owing to an empty lane but it won't wash now but you can try.

(https://i.imgur.com/2uKxTBP.gif)
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 08, 2024, 10:37:51 am
Thanks it’s n1ykg
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: stamfordman on November 08, 2024, 10:33:52 am
What is the car VRM (numberplate). It is pointless blanking this as we can't get the video.
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: boggler on November 08, 2024, 09:51:37 am
Hi

I got a notice letter for a pcn (by97079698) on 25/10 for an incident on 20/10 for stopping in a yellow box, i dont remember this but it could have been traffic lights suddenly turned red and i went too early. 

Is there any grounds for appeal?  I have until tomorrow to pay the reduced fee

Contravention code 31j.  They uploaded the pictures/video online

Appeciate any advice

I know that one well. You are usually better off in the left side lane as unless there is bus congestion ahead (which you can usually see), you can still swing round to the right and head up towards Masons Hill.
Title: Re: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 08, 2024, 09:47:53 am
Letter

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Title: PCN stopping in a yellow box junction (westmoreland road/aylesbury Bromley)
Post by: nikhil on November 08, 2024, 09:45:27 am
Hi

I got a notice letter for a pcn (by97079698) on 25/10 for an incident on 20/10 for stopping in a yellow box, i dont remember this but it could have been traffic lights suddenly turned red and i went too early. 

Is there any grounds for appeal?  I have until tomorrow to pay the reduced fee

Contravention code 31j.  They uploaded the pictures/video online

Appeciate any advice

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