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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: gumwn17dc@mozmail.com on November 04, 2024, 07:11:39 pm

Title: Re: Heathrow Drop Off Zone Charge Parking Charge Notice (APCOA)
Post by: DWMB2 on November 04, 2024, 08:54:15 pm
I assume "Other"?
You assume correctly!

In general, selecting "other" is very often the best bet - you can explain your grounds for appeal in your appeal text, no need to use any preset options.
Title: Re: Heathrow Drop Off Zone Charge Parking Charge Notice (APCOA)
Post by: gumwn17dc@mozmail.com on November 04, 2024, 08:48:43 pm
That seems pretty straightforward, thank you! I will get right on it.

For information for those reading in future, I selected "Other" from the below list.

Click on the reason for your challenge:

    My vehicle was stolen
    The contravention did not occur
    The amount specified on the notice is incorrect
    I was not the Registered Keeper/Driver at the time of the contravention
    Mitigating circumstances prevented me from parking correctly
    My vehicle has been cloned
    Other

Title: Re: Heathrow Drop Off Zone Charge Parking Charge Notice (APCOA)
Post by: DWMB2 on November 04, 2024, 08:29:53 pm
Welcome - good that you chose to seek advice here before appealing.

The set-up at Heathrow is such that there is no mechanism for APCOA to recover any charge that may be owed by the driver (who APCOA do not know), from you, the keeper. Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (there's a link to it in my signature under this post if you want to read up on it) provides a mechanism for parking companies to recover charges from the registered keeper of a vehicle, if certain conditions are met. It states that they can only do this if the alleged parking event took place on "relevant land", which is defined in paragraph 3 as follows:

3(1)In this Schedule “relevant land” means any land (including land above or below ground level) other than—
(a)a highway maintainable at the public expense (within the meaning of section 329(1) of the Highways Act 1980);

(b)a parking place which is provided or controlled by a traffic authority;

(c)any land (not falling within paragraph (a) or (b)) on which the parking of a vehicle is subject to statutory control.

As Heathrow Airport is subject to byelaws, it is subject to "statutory control", and as such, not relevant land. You could therefore appeal along the lines of the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ______) for vehicle registration mark _______, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I am appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle. There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act").

Even if you were seeking to do so, as the Heathrow Airport Drop Off Zones are not "relevant land" as defined by The Act you are unable to recover the charge from me, the keeper.

I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

If appealing online, make sure there are no drop down boxes etc. that force/trick you into revealing who was driving - you are appealing as the keeper, and saying nothing about who was driving.
Title: Heathrow Drop Off Zone Charge Parking Charge Notice (APCOA)
Post by: gumwn17dc@mozmail.com on November 04, 2024, 07:11:39 pm
Today I received a Parking Charge Notice from APCOA "for the contravention of Use of Drop Off Zone without making a valid payment at Heathrow Terminal Drop Off T3".

It is dated within 14 days for a car I am the registered owner and keeper of and the driver at the time and did use the Drop Off Zone to drop off a passenger.

I fully intended to pay (who would rather have the fine than pay?) but following being in a coma a few years ago my memory has significantly deteriorated. Being as there is no facility to pay at the time I must have overlooked doing so upon my return home.

This is a circumstance that disproportionately affects me (and is likely to do so again in future) due to my memory issue. I'd like to be able to simply pay the charge and ideally get some sort of reminder to do so ahead of a fine should it happen again, but am concerned that because of my medical condition I am being discriminated against as unlike most people I am not able to remember if I have paid (or indeed if I need to pay) and therefore am more likely to be fined again. There was never any intent to avoid paying on my part.

The appeal categories do not fit my circumstances, although there is a category for "other". I'm reluctant to complete the appeal process before taking advice though. Any thoughts or advice would be welcome. Many thanks in advance.