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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: emailpat on October 29, 2024, 12:46:14 pm

Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: Hippocrates on August 08, 2025, 11:22:18 am
Clearly, the skeleton needs to lose some weight.  :D
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on August 08, 2025, 10:11:56 am
Well done cp8759 3 wins out of 3. The Wizard strikes again!!! :)
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on March 19, 2025, 11:37:05 am
Well done cp8759 (Ivan) you truly are a Wizard. Thank you for your perseverance and patience 🙏
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: cp8759 on March 19, 2025, 11:08:26 am
Outcome (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XVZGa7keCakZ7K7uJ41_GiqLwClNVR3K/view).
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: cp8759 on November 28, 2024, 07:56:29 pm
So we can infer they probably sent you a Notice of Rejection. If you're able to call the council tomorrow and see if they can email you a copy.
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on November 28, 2024, 04:09:37 pm
Thank you @cp8759 .
I am not very tech savvy so thank you for your patience 🙏 😊
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on November 28, 2024, 02:04:19 pm
PCN ZN14379995

https://imgur.com/a/e4YUJ0w
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on November 02, 2024, 04:13:08 pm
Thank you @cp8759   :)
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: cp8759 on November 02, 2024, 09:55:07 am
@emailpat if I didn't answer earlier it was because I hadn't had a chance, as you might imagine there are far more people looking for help than I have time available.

Anyway,
I will PM you some links to put in the representation, we can use the click count to confirm whether they've looked at them or not (obviously do not click on the links I PM you as we want the click count to remain at zero). If they don't click on them, we can then prove they've failed to consider all of the evidence. If they say in the rejection that they've considered all the evidence, we've got them for lying as well.

Draft representation:

Dear London Borough of Haringey,

I was only in the area because I was helping a friend with paperwork to sell his car, a copy of the listing is here LINK1

He required my assistance because English is not his first language as he was born in Colombia, see LINK2

At the material time I was trying to lease the area and this looked the only way out, I would appreciate some discretion in the circumstances.

Yours faithfully,


Send this online and take a screenshot of the confirmation page.
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 31, 2024, 11:28:32 pm
They speak Spanish in the whole of South America except Brazil where they speak Portuguese
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 31, 2024, 01:27:52 pm
https://imgur.com/a/Acftmqm
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 31, 2024, 01:10:32 pm
He was born in Colombia. I will try and get some confirmation of this.
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: cp8759 on October 31, 2024, 01:03:42 pm
Is there anything to confirm English isn't his first language?
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 31, 2024, 10:01:34 am
@cp8759
@cp8759 This might be one for the strategy of last resort, but you'd have to tell us about any relevant mitigation. Does what I have posted comply with this strategy?
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 30, 2024, 05:21:23 pm
https://imgur.com/a/zloRv3s
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 30, 2024, 05:14:49 pm
The reason I was in this area was to help a friend with paperwork to sell his car because English is not his first language. He was worried about dealing with this company.
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 30, 2024, 05:11:28 pm
https://imgur.com/a/29dwrkH
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 29, 2024, 04:20:03 pm
I was leaving the scene, and this looked the only way out.This area is a nightmare because of one way systems and LTNs. I did not see these signs and only one box visible in picture. From the other direction there is two boxes?
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 29, 2024, 04:14:27 pm
https://imgur.com/a/Nuf5DYD
Title: Re: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: cp8759 on October 29, 2024, 03:40:02 pm
@emailpat the signs look pretty clear, I'm not sure what else the council could do aside from putting a physical barrier in place?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvuXeBWgaMk

This might be one for the strategy of last resort (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/l-b-waltham-forest-50r-performing-a-prohibited-turn/msg7581/#msg7581), but you'd have to tell us about any relevant mitigation.

GSV is out of date but this is the nearest view I can get (this is from the other side of the traffic filter) https://maps.app.goo.gl/bG4oqfAKrET6Y3B29

The traffic order is The Haringey (Moving Traffic Restrictions) (No.14) Experimental Order 2023 (https://drive.google.com/file/d/16d4iqs1E3DLHRFdpjMIml5s8S--VfWVC/view)
Title: Re: PCN ZN14379995
Post by: John U.K. on October 29, 2024, 01:23:32 pm
You say this is connected to
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/pcn-gx19240436/msg42447/#msg42447

but that was 29 minutes earlier?

Please give a GSV link to the location, and as Stamfordman says, adjust the titles of both threads.
Title: Re: PCN ZN14379995
Post by: stamfordman on October 29, 2024, 01:20:20 pm
Titling your posts with PCN numbers is silly and people won't read them.

Hint: read the read this first sticky for how to post here.
Title: Re: PCN ZN14379995
Post by: emailpat on October 29, 2024, 01:05:07 pm
https://imgur.com/a/vbBUvqB
https://imgur.com/a/wGb5FLp
Title: Code 52(M) Tottenham, Haringey N17
Post by: emailpat on October 29, 2024, 12:46:14 pm
This is related to GX19240436 same day at 10.18am code 52(M)   
Haringey honeypot area. Residents are telling visitors to cover there number plates if they come into the area.

I was trying to get access to Higham Road but LTN in the way so I turned around and drove a bit further to try and turn right and could not. I finally got to this right turn but instead of turning right in to White Hart Lane  I did a u turn  code 50u to go back the way I came. It is apparently a red route. I was just about to pay the reduced amount of £80 when I thought I would check Haringey camera footage but it wouldn't let me in because PCNs begin ZN and mine doesn't. If you see pcn no. I probably will have to pay but was just curious.

Kind regards
Patrick

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