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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: fox10 on October 21, 2024, 10:59:14 pm
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Too late. Rep has been sent.
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I was thinking of sending them this:
I am writing to formally appeal the Penalty Charge Notice No. AF99076474 53J issued for an alleged violation of “failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone” on 2nd September 2024 at 15:27.
Upon review, I respectfully contest this PCN on the grounds that the restriction was issued under circumstances where no students or school-related pedestrian traffic would have been affected. To my understanding, the school in question was closed on this date, reportedly a staff training day. No children were present as it was in effect a non-term day, meaning there was no pedestrian activity warranting the enforcement of the zone restrictions.
Schools in the Redbridge area operate on different term calendars, and it is impractical to expect residents to track every school’s unique dates to comply with restrictions intended for student safety. This lack of alignment between term dates and traffic enforcement creates confusion and ambiguity for residents who wish to adhere to regulations but have limited access to accurate, comprehensive information regarding individual school schedules.
Given that the pedestrian zone restrictions serve primarily to protect students during active school days, enforcing the restriction when no students are present contradicts the spirit of the regulation. Therefore, I respectfully request the cancellation of this PCN, as there was no risk to pedestrian safety on this particular day.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your favorable response.
Kind regards
Wait please until I have looked at the details.
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Done, thanks
Let's see it please.
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I was thinking of sending them this:
I am writing to formally appeal the Penalty Charge Notice No. AF99076474 53J issued for an alleged violation of “failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone” on 2nd September 2024 at 15:27.
Upon review, I respectfully contest this PCN on the grounds that the restriction was issued under circumstances where no students or school-related pedestrian traffic would have been affected. To my understanding, the school in question was closed on this date, reportedly a staff training day. No children were present as it was in effect a non-term day, meaning there was no pedestrian activity warranting the enforcement of the zone restrictions.
Schools in the Redbridge area operate on different term calendars, and it is impractical to expect residents to track every school’s unique dates to comply with restrictions intended for student safety. This lack of alignment between term dates and traffic enforcement creates confusion and ambiguity for residents who wish to adhere to regulations but have limited access to accurate, comprehensive information regarding individual school schedules.
Given that the pedestrian zone restrictions serve primarily to protect students during active school days, enforcing the restriction when no students are present contradicts the spirit of the regulation. Therefore, I respectfully request the cancellation of this PCN, as there was no risk to pedestrian safety on this particular day.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your favorable response.
Kind regards
Is this appeal written by ChatGPT?
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Done, thanks
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Please keep a screenshot of the reps. page.
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I was thinking of sending them this:
I am writing to formally appeal the Penalty Charge Notice No. AF99076474 53J issued for an alleged violation of “failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian zone” on 2nd September 2024 at 15:27.
Upon review, I respectfully contest this PCN on the grounds that the restriction was issued under circumstances where no students or school-related pedestrian traffic would have been affected. To my understanding, the school in question was closed on this date, reportedly a staff training day. No children were present as it was in effect a non-term day, meaning there was no pedestrian activity warranting the enforcement of the zone restrictions.
Schools in the Redbridge area operate on different term calendars, and it is impractical to expect residents to track every school’s unique dates to comply with restrictions intended for student safety. This lack of alignment between term dates and traffic enforcement creates confusion and ambiguity for residents who wish to adhere to regulations but have limited access to accurate, comprehensive information regarding individual school schedules.
Given that the pedestrian zone restrictions serve primarily to protect students during active school days, enforcing the restriction when no students are present contradicts the spirit of the regulation. Therefore, I respectfully request the cancellation of this PCN, as there was no risk to pedestrian safety on this particular day.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, and I look forward to your favorable response.
Kind regards
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Hi
I went to the road and it looks like they have added in the Term time sign, please see below and kindly advise if I have any options, thanks
(https://iili.io/2CijFff.md.jpg)
(https://iili.io/2CijdVs.md.jpg)
(https://iili.io/2CijKl4.md.jpg)
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Thanks for your reply and advice. I will take a trip to the road on the weekend and check. I will take some pictures and update this thread.
Thanks
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Unfortunately Google Street View is not up-to-date at the location, but a look at the other end of Colvin Gardens where one turns in from Tomswood Hill shows two "Flying Motorbike" signs with restriction times, but nothing about term time.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/zyEHE6KBquNRPfyL7
PCN time of contravention is 15.27, so well inside the afternoon restriction. If the council don't enforce outside term times it is not conveyed on any signs, although to be fair the GSV view I posted is July 2021. Can you or your father confirm the sign shown on the 2021 GSV view is the same as is there now ?
The video shows you charging past the signs on Colvin Gardens, so this will be difficult to overturn, but post some representations based on the term time issue. Signs seem clear enough in the video, and your father hasn't said he didn't see them so one can assume they are prominent enough.
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Good evening,
My Dad received the attached PCN for passing trhough a school street, they did not realise it was term time as there was not children so thought the term had not started, is there any scope for an appeal. Any advice much appreciated. Thanks
(https://i.postimg.cc/Twzhy9CJ/PCN-page-1.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/K8WKSxBW/PCN-page-2.jpg)