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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 02:01:19 pm

Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Neil B on October 17, 2024, 04:47:34 pm
Let us know once you have a new pcn and we'll take a look at it.
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 03:48:57 pm
Ahh, understood.

Thank you again. :)

I appreciate the reassurance and advice.
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Neil B on October 17, 2024, 03:20:01 pm
Thank you, that's a very good catch I didn't previously consider, would it be safe if I do both (recorded delivery + email)?
You can waste your money if you like but they'll only process the first they receive.

You should get an e-mail acknowledgement within a few minutes.

Put STATUTORY DECLARATION in the e-mail subject field,
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 03:11:11 pm
Thank you, that's a very good catch I didn't previously consider, would it be safe if I do both (recorded delivery + email)?
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Neil B on October 17, 2024, 03:09:28 pm
You need to e-mail it to tec@justice.gov.uk

Don't use post.
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 02:58:48 pm
Perfect, thank you both genuinely, I've arranged a time later today with a Solicitor to get the Statutory Declaration signed, and I'll mail that off instantly.


Thanks again. :)
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Neil B on October 17, 2024, 02:22:31 pm
would there be any specific wording I could use?

No; just tick the appropriate box.
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 02:18:32 pm
Yes, the name and address on the order and the PCN are the same, but I did not get the original PCN (which is the same delivery address on the V5C logbook).


Not super certain I have a problem with post, but I get very little generally (practically moved everything to emails), so anything outside of Amazon parcels is pretty much an event in itself. I also WFH, so unlikely to be a mix up in receiving.


I think this would fall under Statutory Declaration as a result, so happy to pursue that, would there be any specific wording I could use?

Edit: That long weekend in July, was the first time I took days off in ages, and I haven't taken any since.
Title: Re: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order
Post by: stamfordman on October 17, 2024, 02:10:16 pm
Is the address correct on the order for recovery.

You seem not have got two docs:

- PCN
- charge certificate

Any problems with post?

You say 'not aware' - is this the same as 'these were not delivered at the address on the V5C car logbook'.

You have a way to get this reset provided you didn't get the PCN.

See process:

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/eat/understanding-enforcement-process/moving-traffic-pcn-enforcement-process
Title: Lewisham, Code 53J, unknowingly entered pedestrian zone, Bellingham Road Junction with Longhill Road, Recovery Order?
Post by: Hyoo on October 17, 2024, 02:01:19 pm
2) Got a letter in the mail regarding a trip I took through Lewisham 3 months ago, after dropping off friends in Croydon, and driving home to Bexleyheath via Google Maps (otherwise I don't travel often through areas I don't know).


I am/was unaware of any previous correspondence in trying to communicate this to me until today, but there's an Order for Recovery of Unpaid Penalty Charge dated 08/10/24 regarding a notice they've dated on 19/07/24.


The incident took place at 15:22 on 15/07/24.


It's my first time seeing this PCN. And not aware of receiving any prior notice. I live alone.

I had to look up anything related, as was unaware of any changes in Lewisham, and thought I was relatively safe following Maps, and it sticking to main roads.


I have found the following where it indicates these roads are pedestrian zones from 2:45pm - 3:45pm.


https://www.thegazette.co.uk/notice/4530258
https://lewisham.gov.uk/myservices/parking/schoolstreets/schools-streets-programme-streets-outside-schools

Attachment 1 is the order notice
(https://i.imgur.com/X8JAd59.jpeg)


Attachment 2-3 are relating to the PCN copy they sent attached to the order letter.
(https://i.imgur.com/22rtMSm.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Jn1hgbz.jpeg)


Attachment 4 is the timeline of my journey that day
(https://i.imgur.com/P3DnWkh.jpeg)

Street View of location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/XLTEmDwqEiQTUyAi6


Happy to answer any questions or follow up, as  I'm pretty confused as to how I've landed here.