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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Bebold on October 07, 2024, 12:27:53 pm

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: stamfordman on October 08, 2024, 12:38:38 pm

Yes mitigation but they are invited to use discretion. No ask, no get.

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: H C Andersen on October 07, 2024, 10:39:26 pm

IMO, the contravention is clearly made out - the dropped footway could be 3 or more vehicles' widths provided these satisfy the criteria in the Act and IMO this one does: vehicle crossover clearly installed by the council and which serves 2 adjacent garage frontages and additional off-street parking to the side.

Any matters related to your mobility go to mitigation only IMO.

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: stamfordman on October 07, 2024, 05:43:34 pm

Take a pic showing that part of the space by the dropped part is taken by steps and also one showing the wide drive in width for two properties.

Tell the council you have mobility issues (possibly enclose evidence) and there was no other parking close enough.

One of the council's pics shows you rammed with another car at the front - which shows how desperate you were but could the other car get out?

(https://i.imgur.com/YOiqjCA.png)

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: Bebold on October 07, 2024, 02:45:08 pm

sadly I don't know the resident.

Noticed there was no eye contact as someone was outside.

Any suggestions on possible reps I could make and i get on it pronto.

Thank you folks so much

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: Incandescent on October 07, 2024, 01:48:13 pm

Photo shows the rear of the car adjacent to part of the dropped section, and the resident probably complained, hence the PCN. However, don't cough-up straightaway. Submit reps based on your narrative here. Post up their response when you get it. They will probably reject your informal reps, and then you must decide whether to take matters further or pay up. My view is that you don't have a strong case for taking to London Tribunals.

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: stamfordman on October 07, 2024, 01:33:39 pm

This looks like a contravention and was probably called in by the resident.

But petty given the access there - do you know the resident? Maps view is from 2019 though.

(https://i.ibb.co/2qnGcBg/Screenshot-2024-10-07-at-13-26-37.png)
(https://i.ibb.co/X3CFxwz/Screenshot-2024-10-07-at-13-27-00.png)

(https://i.ibb.co/TmvqbXJ/Screenshot-2024-10-07-at-13-32-31.png)

Title: Re: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: John U.K. on October 07, 2024, 12:40:49 pm

Where exactly were you parked? Where the black car is in GSV?

Please post any Council pictures which should be on Barnet's website.

For convenience:

(https://i.imgur.com/N4dsbC2.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vC40no5.jpeg)

You are getting very close to expiry of the discount period!

Title: Code 27 Parked adjacent to verge Barnet Challenge Stage
Post by: Bebold on October 07, 2024, 12:27:53 pm

Hello,

I parked on a rainy evening on the roadside that had no road markings and the entry way close enough to my destination. I use a walking aid and do not have a blue badge so could not park far away. I was issued a PCN by Barnet council.
Do I have any grounds to challenge the PCN and what would I say please? The only thing I see is the PCN is unsigned. Unsure that matters.

Your kind help is appreciated.

Thank you.

The PCN unredacted

https://imgur.com/a/Oyqv2dW

Location of contravention

https://maps.app.goo.gl/QUV4hRfCPYyBCr1n7