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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Jh4777 on September 24, 2024, 04:42:19 pm
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As it stands, this could end badly for the OP if the CEO made notes on the badge and OPs statements which contradict each other.
and no definitive answer on this issue is not helping
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Was a BB clock on display? I don't see it in the photos.
Also where is the Restricted Parking Zone sign shown in the Civil Enforceemnt Officer's evidence photos actually postitioned on the street, in relation to where you parked?
The RPZ sign says "Except in signed bays". Are there any signs at all in or adjacent to the bay in the centre of the road where you parked?
The 20 minute limit seems to apply to the coach bay outside the CODE.
The PCN itself is for contravening a no wating restricion, usually single/double yellow lines or for not parking in a bay in a RPZ, there aren't any yellow lines in an RPZ.
Your answers are ambiguous, there doesn't seem to be any other person in the car. So was the BB holder in the car when it was driven to the location or not?
Misuse of a BB is a criminal offence and you seem to have aroused suspicion.
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I was parked on Fairfax Street where 20 minutes stay is permitted, I confirmed this by asking another CEO on a previous day, and by adjacent signage. I stayed the duration of 7 minutes which is within the exempted period. This is from 13:49 to 13:56 - this is recorded on the PCN. I also had a valid blue badge and the passenger for whom this belongs in the vehicle. The badge was correctly and clearly displayed and can be seen in the pictures taken by the CEO. This was to enable unloading of goods. I look forward to your response regarding the cancellation of this PCN, Thank you
Uploaded Evidence:
(These are times on the pcn and the badge itself, front and back)
Please add for constructive comments. Appreciated thank you
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It depends what you have written..
I wanted help formulating an appeal, I've made one now
Post your draft here for constructive commment before sending, but do not miss deadlines.
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I wanted help formulating an appeal, I've made one now with all details of the badge, PCN times (observed)
Even without the badge, I was there for less than 20 mins which is ordinarily allowed anyway.
CEO observed 13:49 and gave the ticket at 13:56 - 7 minutes
surely this won't stand when appealed?
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Hello,
I parked in Coventry city centre just outside of CODE Fairfax Street, my sister, who is a blue badge holder with me in the car. I helped her take her stuff up in multiple trips as she is due to start uni soon.
On one of my trips back with the trolley, I came back to a ticket on the window - council - ‘Parking in a restricted area out of the prescribed time’
I flagged down the warden who was prancing about and he says that he noticed I’ve been going in and out of the car and that the badge is registered to someone older. ::)
He demanded I bring my sister down from the 21st floor to prove that she was with me, I could’ve tbh, but refused to. I’d always been told anyway, once a ticket’s been processed, they can’t redact it.
He asked me her DOB, I said she was in her 20s and gave the exact birthday, he comes back to say it’s registered to someone in their 70s?! I’m really baffled here, can they make out the badge owner’s DOB from reg? Why would the warden goad me into saying otherwise when I know the badge is valid?
I’m still going to contest it. The badge was only in use for its rightful user and the gall of him, absolute w*nker
interesting but are you actually asking a question? asking for help or just telling us your story??
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I didn't say the owner wasn't in the vehicle either?
Do you mean "owner" of the BB? Or of the car?
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I didn't say the owner wasn't in the vehicle either?
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So basically, the CEO is correct and the BB has been misused, correct ?
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Yes, you are right, my sister holds a bb as does another member of my family who use the vehicle. I assumed it was my sister’s.
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My vehicle is black, the badge belongs to my sister who was with me in the car
The BB was issued by the London Borough of Hackney to a female born in July 1970. So 54 years old today. In your opening post you've told us your sister is in her 20s.
"He asked me her DOB, I said she was in her 20s and gave the exact birthday, he comes back to say it’s registered to someone in their 70s?"
Please explain the discrepancy?
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You ment.
PCN Number CV83680604
Vehicle red EA10 BOJ
To whom does the blue badge actually belong?
There is a discrepancy between your initial account of events and the BB shown in the CEO's evidence photos.
GSV suggests that the bay outside the CODE building is 20 mins for buses only? So were you parked on what appears to be the traffic island in the middle of the road? Is that a designated parking bay?
Yes, I was advised by a previous CEO that I may park there with a badge. It is not a traffic lane. Also, the PCN states I was observed from 13:49 to 13:56, this isn’t 20 mins, even without a badge
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My vehicle is black, the badge belongs to my sister who was with me in the car
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You ment.
PCN Number CV83680604
Vehicle red EA10 BOJ
To whom does the blue badge actually belong?
There is a discrepancy between your initial account of events and the BB shown in the CEO's evidence photos.
GSV suggests that the bay outside the CODE building is 20 mins for buses only? So were you parked on what appears to be the traffic island in the middle of the road? Is that a designated parking bay?
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Pictures won’t upload! Error contact administrator?
Tried different formats and a file
Have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and try imgur or ibb.co.uk
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Pictures won’t upload! Error contact administrator?
Tried different formats and a file
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Hi All
Coventry City Centre
PCN Number 83680604
Vehicle red EA10 BOJ
pictures of PCN attached, here is the google maps reference:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/CODE+Fairfax+Street,+Coventry+Student+Accommodation,+Fairfax+St,+Coventry+CV1+5RQ/@52.4094949,-1.5039762,16z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x48774bb930d9ae69:0xe220ae2d3fb1c452!8m2!3d52.4094949!4d-1.5039762!16s%2Fg%2F11dzt3lt7f
You may see the middle portion of Fairfax Street may be parked in for 20 mins usually, though with a BB it can be occupied.
Thank you
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What's the PCN number?
Please post up both sides of the PCN and leave everything visible. Don't redact anything as per the instructions which are in the READ THIS FIRST - **BEFORE POSTING YOUR CASE!** (https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/) sticky post at the top of this forum.
The CEO can determine the age and gender of the BB holder.
And yes, the CEO cannot cancel the PCN once printed.
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This should be fairly easy to refute. You will, of course, have to include the relevant BB details in your reps. Age is, anyway, irrelevant to any BB, and the CEO would seem to have been very badly trained.
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Yes we need the PCN. Also Google Maps link.
I really don't think a blue badge number discloses age.
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I will follow with pictures of the PCN, council is Coventry,
Reg EA10 BOJ
Thank you
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Hello,
I parked in Coventry city centre just outside of CODE Fairfax Street, my sister, who is a blue badge holder with me in the car. I helped her take her stuff up in multiple trips as she is due to start uni soon.
On one of my trips back with the trolley, I came back to a ticket on the window - council - ‘Parking in a restricted area out of the prescribed time’
I flagged down the warden who was prancing about and he says that he noticed I’ve been going in and out of the car and that the badge is registered to someone older. ::)
He demanded I bring my sister down from the 21st floor to prove that she was with me, I could’ve tbh, but refused to. I’d always been told anyway, once a ticket’s been processed, they can’t redact it.
He asked me her DOB, I said she was in her 20s and gave the exact birthday, he comes back to say it’s registered to someone in their 70s?! I’m really baffled here, can they make out the badge owner’s DOB from reg? Why would the warden goad me into saying otherwise when I know the badge is valid?
I’m still going to contest it. The badge was only in use for its rightful user and the gall of him, absolute w*nker