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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: CG on August 03, 2023, 02:45:51 pm
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Meanwhile. 9 in 10, if not 99 in an 100 motorist caught by the CAZ cameras will go on paying their PCNs, many using the 0870 number to do so. It's high time tribunals were give powers to direct Councils to take corrective action.
Judicial tribunals are meant to be independent and only discharge judicial functions, what you're suggesting would be for the executive branch of the state, not the judicial branch.
What is really needed is root-and-branch reform of the local government ombudsman, which should really be on top of this.
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To my amazement, the appeal has been DNC'ed with the following reasons:
(https://i.imgur.com/k5xZ3Iw.png)
Meanwhile. 9 in 10, if not 99 in an 100 motorist caught by the CAZ cameras will go on paying their PCNs, many using the 0870 number to do so. It's high time tribunals were give powers to direct Councils to take corrective action.
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To my amazement, the appeal has been DNC'ed with the following reasons:
(https://i.imgur.com/k5xZ3Iw.png)
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I'll drop you a PM.
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Hello,
Thank you for your replies again.
I assume failure to consider references the fact they clearly did not read my original letter and sent me a standard response?
I would love for you to represent me if you are up for it?
Best wishes.
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Absolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....
+1, I agree we've got them on a failure to consider.
Would you like me to represent you at the tribunal? If so, please do not file an appeal yourself.
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Absolute, total failure to consider. CP'S draft doesn't even mention signage....
Press on.
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Hi,
Not sure why Imjur didn't just post the link.
All 3 pages are in the imjur link.
https://imgur.com/a/NAugfgC
Many thanks!
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As above, show us all the pages and please use the imgur BB sharing code to post the images on here.
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Please post up remaining pages.
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Hi there,
I have finally heard back from Bristol City Council and as expected, my appeal has been declined.
Letter attached in imgur link.
(https://i.imgur.com/wo6hyhx.jpeg)
Do I go to tribunal? If so, any advice?
Thank you again in advance!
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Absolutely wonderful.
I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!
Just to set expectations, I would fully anticipate a rejection, and we'll have to appeal to the tribunal. That being said, Bristol are yet to contest a single tribunal case that I've been involved in.
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Absolutely wonderful.
I have sent the 2 PDFs off just now - will update with the outcome! Fingers crossed!
You are a star, thank you!
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You're right - Automated Payment Service number is 0870 number.
What does this mean?
It means you can use this draft: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/bristol-clean-air-zone-pcn-17j-a4-ring-road-hotwell-road-(caz0001)-(route-to-bri/msg974/#msg974
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It means that Bristol get a small 'bung' from the phone company for everybody paying via the telephone number, thus getting more than the penalty defined in law. It makes the PCN a nullity.
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Hi,
Thank you for replying!
Further pages are here: https://imgur.com/a/Hl59yeL
You're right - Automated Payment Service number is 0870 number.
What does this mean?
Best wishes,
Georgie
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Please post the remaining pages of the PCN. Your best ground of appeal would be if the PCN still has an 0870 premium rate telephone number.
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Hi!
Thank you for running this forum.
PCN image at bottom of post.
Location on Google maps: https://goo.gl/maps/HbwE55okGCDDdER39
I am not used to driving round Bristol, relied on my SatNav which took me down this road.
I am Dyslexic and Dyspraxic - meaning it is pretty tricky for me to focus on absolutely everything, including signage (which - looking at Google Maps, is there).
I just focussed on getting around safely and in all honesty... I didn't know what a bus gate was until getting this notice.
Thank you in advance :)
(https://i.imgur.com/WE0SaNt.jpeg)