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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: starchaser on September 16, 2024, 01:16:47 am

Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: MrChips on February 08, 2025, 01:15:17 pm: Good news, hope you learned something from the process which will leave you better informed if/when the next PCN arrives. Thanks for coming back to post the outcome.
Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: starchaser on February 08, 2025, 12:01:21 pm: Guys, I never saw the replies to my last message.
I thought I would update the outcome.

I appealed to the adjudicator saying exactly what I said in my first post.
I got ChatGPT to reword for me - but everything was as stated. I think it added 'I'm fully aware of the legal rules' or something.

2 days before the adjudicator appointment Redbridge Council decided NOT to challenge.

I wish there was an extra rule where the stakes were raised: if an appeal is withdrawn, then the council has to pay £xx to the defending party for waste of time.
I think this would equal the balance given that your fine can't be reduced to 50% had you paid early.
Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: MrChips on September 20, 2024, 07:32:58 am: We need to see the documents and the video. Please follow the instructions on the link provided.
Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: stamfordman on September 20, 2024, 12:06:05 am: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: starchaser on September 20, 2024, 12:00:46 am: :'(
no replies
sorry for bumping
Title: Re: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: Neil B on September 16, 2024, 01:20:52 am: https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
Title: 6 seconds in a yellow box - received a ticket
Post by: starchaser on September 16, 2024, 01:16:47 am: I got a ticket from Redbridge Council for flipping 6 seconds in some junction box.
I was in the box maybe 10 secs total (other 4 seconds, I was moving slowly).

I've appealed saying there was a car ahead that *suddenly* held up traffic.
I positioned myself to over take the mini backlog (safely and legally) - hence why I was stationary for just 6 seconds.
I could actually have positioned the car so that I was out of the box (at least my tyres out), but I deemed that to be dangerous so I didn't do this.
I only entered the box because there was free flowing traffic.

The above is what I have said - or something very close (I have written and saved on my PC exactly what I said).

The idiots will no doubt reject my appeal and not bother reading.

I thought I would pass it by you guys to see what advice you would give.

EDIT I could easily have been crawling through the yellow box - never stationary, always moving and in doing so been in the yellow box for a much greater time than 6 seconds! Just a thought. + The yellow box was actually quite small - I would say 4m x 4m - so giving motorist little time to know it's there (in comparison to a big yellow box). I thought I would add these points incase relevant.

Thanks.