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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: Abu246 on September 11, 2024, 06:27:47 pm

Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 27, 2025, 12:33:07 pm
Excuse my French, but what an effing waste of time!

You have now become a part of the problem by funding the scammers to the tune of £35 when I told that you would not be paying a penny.

Of course they keep on reducing the amount. They know they don't have a chance if this goes to a hearing but you've succumbed and become just one more piece of low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree that has been plucked.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 27, 2025, 11:19:39 am
Hi all, thought I'd share an update on this case.
So I was due to go and defend myself in court tomorrow 28th March. I received an email from DCBLegal offering a settlement of £35. Initial claim now at £315.

I suppose there are two ways to look at it:
1) I haven't done anything wrong and should go to court to defend so that I don't pay a penny to these mugs.
2) The £35 fee is quite a large decrease from the original amount and it would be a bit risky to go to court as I would never know which view the judge would take.

I decided to pay this £35 for peace of mind and the fee being significantly lower than the original amount. I've called the court and they've confirmed the case has been settled.

I do apologise as this isn't the most exciting outcome. I'd like to thank all involved in helping me with fight this case especially B789.
Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 13, 2025, 12:36:56 pm
Yes. Make sure that the pdf file is under 25Mb
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 13, 2025, 12:06:02 pm
Just need to double check are these the correct email addresses that I send my WS to?    
enquiries.walsall.countycourt@justice.gov.uk
info@dcblegal.co.uk

Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 12, 2025, 12:34:53 pm
The burden of proof is on the claimant to prove their allegation, not on you. For example, just because you paid for the parking, is not evidence that you were the driver. Anyone could have made the payment.

Whilst the the claimant may try to persuade the judge that on the balance of probabilities you were the driver, the judge will make their finding on the facts.

For example, there is no legal obligation on you, as the Keeper, to identify the driver. There is already established, persuasive appellate case law that says the claimant cannot rely on inference to assume you were the driver, so that would put paid to any argument on the balance of probability argument. The reference for that is VCS v Edward 2023 H0KF6C9C (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zra61px7l3if53o3bp9c4/VCS-v-EDWARD-Transcript.pdf?rlkey=bv4bba389nau5qpfglqkpjq5l&st=efhduw8q&dl=0) at 35.3 where HHJ Gargan said:

"...it is consistent with the appropriate probability analysis whereby simply because somebody is a registered keeper, it does not mean on balance of probability they were driving on this occasion, because one simply cannot tell. For example, there will be companies who are registered keepers of vehicles where many drivers have the use of the vehicle from time to time. There will be individual employers are the registered keeper but who allow a number of people who may drive their vehicles. There may be situations where husband and wife are each registered keepers of their respective vehicles but for some reason drive the other. Or there may be situations where husband/wife is the registered keeper of both family cars and the registered keeper regularly drives one car and their spouse regularly drives the other. These are all possibilities which show that it is not appropriate to draw an inference that, on balance of probability, the registered keeper was driving on any given occasion."
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: DWMB2 on March 12, 2025, 09:13:18 am
A judge might disagree with any one of your points. If you don't include them, he definitely will.

I'm not saying you should include any old point regardless of merit, but I wouldn't disregard something because you think a judge might not afford it much weight.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 12, 2025, 08:28:38 am
I am a little worried that the judge might take a view that it's irrelevant that the signs are not BPA CoP compliant given that I tried to pay at the machine?
Sorry I'm not trying to undermine you, I'm just trying to prepare for the worst case.
Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 11, 2025, 05:29:16 pm
Thanks for this. I've got a question about point 51 of my WS, am I admitting that I tried to pay which means that they can probably infer that I was the driver? I was planning to keep the identity unknown.

I have also located some images of the machine which I took shortly after the first PCN which may be useful.

I don't think that you are going to get much out of denying being the driver at this stage. Whilst they have not proven Keeper liability, your defence relies much more on their procedural failures and lack of evidence that they even have contractual right flowing from the landowner to issue PCNs at the location.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 11, 2025, 05:24:46 pm
As there have been no further comments about the WS, here is a final revised version which removes the repetition and restructures it slightly:

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I, [Defendant’s Full Name], am the Defendant in this claim and make this statement in support of my defence. The facts in this statement are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

Multiple Procedural Defects in the Claimant’s Case

2. The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim (PoC) and Witness Statement (WS) are both procedurally defective and should be given no weight due to their failure to comply with the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR) and the improper execution of their statements of truth.

3. The PoC fail to comply with CPR 16.4 and Practice Direction 16, paragraph 7.5. The Claimant had an obligation to fully particularise the claim at the time of issuing proceedings but failed to:

a) Set out the exact wording of the clause(s) of the terms and conditions relied upon.
(b) Adequately explain how the terms of the alleged contract were incorporated or why I am said to be in breach.
(c) Distinguish whether the claim is brought against me as the driver or the keeper.
(d) Provide a breakdown of how the total sum claimed has been calculated, including interest and alleged additional charges.

4. Despite the Claimant’s failure to adequately plead its case, the allocation judge did not order the Claimant to amend or clarify its PoC. The Claimant has since sought to introduce additional details via its Witness Statement, but this does not cure the defective PoC. A Witness Statement cannot remedy an inadequate statement of case, and this attempt to rectify procedural failings at a later stage is an abuse of process.

5. The PoC are signed by Sarah Ensall, described as the "Claimant’s legal representative," but there is no evidence that she is a solicitor or that she has the formal authorisation required under CPR 22.1 and Practice Direction 22 to sign a statement of truth on behalf of the Claimant.

6. CPR 22.1(6) and PD 22, paragraph 3.9, require that:

(a) If signed by a legal representative, they must be a solicitor or a person formally authorised by the Claimant.
(b) The signatory must be responsible for the conduct of the case.

7. Sarah Ensall is not a solicitor, and the Claimant has not provided evidence that she has explicit authorisation to sign statements of truth on behalf of Euro Car Parks. The Claimant must demonstrate that she has the required formal standing to sign the PoC. If she does not, the statement of truth is defective, and the PoC are procedurally invalid.

8. The same procedural failure applies to the Witness Statement, which is also signed by Sarah Ensall. She is not a direct witness with knowledge of the facts and has no first-hand evidence regarding the alleged parking event, the contract, or the issuance of the charge. Instead, the WS is based on hearsay, without a supporting statement from a Euro Car Parks employee who has direct knowledge of the facts.

9. The Witness Statement attempts to introduce new arguments and details that were absent from the PoC, including references to specific payment records, signage, and contract terms. However, this does not remedy the defective PoC and is an attempt to circumvent proper procedure.

10. The Claimant is a serial litigant represented by bulk litigation solicitors and should be fully aware of its obligations under the CPR. Despite this, it failed to properly plead its case at the outset and now seeks to correct its failings by introducing details at a later stage. This approach is unfair, unreasonable, and an abuse of process.

11. In light of these procedural defects, I submit that:

(a) The PoC are inadequately pleaded, do not comply with CPR 16.4, and should be struck out under CPR 3.4(2)(a) as disclosing no reasonable grounds for bringing the claim.
(b) The statement of truth on both the PoC and WS is defective, as the Claimant has not demonstrated that Sarah Ensall was properly authorised to sign on their behalf.
(c) The Witness Statement should be given no weight, as it is based entirely on hearsay and does not correct the failings in the PoC.
(d) The court should consider whether the Claimant’s conduct in issuing vague claims and relying on late evidence constitutes unreasonable behaviour, warranting a costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

Misuse of CPR 27.9 (Absentee Representation and Advocate's Role)

12. The Claimant’s Witness Statement concludes with an assertion that my Defence is "entirely without merit" and requests that it be struck out. This is a baseless and presumptive statement that disregards the multiple procedural failings, misrepresentations, and legal deficiencies in the Claimant’s case that I have demonstrated throughout this Witness Statement.

13. The Claimant’s witness, Sarah Jennifer Helena Ensall, states that she "may not be able to attend the hearing" and that an advocate will attend on her behalf under CPR 27.9. However, this is a misuse of CPR 27.9, which specifically governs hearings where neither the party nor their representative appears in person. CPR 27.9(1) states that if a party does not attend a hearing, they may rely on their written representations only if they have given notice to the court and to me no later than seven days before the hearing and have filed and served all documents on which they intend to rely.

14. The key limitation of CPR 27.9 is that the party choosing not to attend is restricted to relying on their written statement and may not introduce new arguments or evidence via an advocate. If no representative of Euro Car Parks is physically present, I submit that their advocate must not be allowed to make submissions or introduce any further arguments beyond the contents of the Witness Statement. The advocate cannot cross-examine me or argue points beyond what is already written. If an advocate attempts to introduce new material, I will object on the basis that this breaches CPR 27.9.

15. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the witness has any direct knowledge of the alleged contravention, and the Witness Statement itself consists largely of hearsay. If the Claimant does not produce a genuinely informed representative who can be cross-examined, then I submit that the court should give little to no weight to the Claimants Witness Statement and dismiss the claim.

16. The Claimant also seeks to recover the advocate’s fee for attending the hearing, which is another procedural overreach. Given that this is a small claims track case, I submit that costs are strictly limited under CPR 27.14. The attendance of an advocate is not a recoverable cost, and this request should be dismissed.

17. In light of this, if no Euro Car Parks representative is physically present, their advocate must not be permitted to introduce new arguments beyond the Witness Statement, and any attempt by the advocate to cross-examine me or make oral submissions beyond the Witness Statement should be challenged as a breach of CPR 27.9. The advocate’s fee must not be awarded, as it is not a recoverable cost under CPR 27.14.

The Claimant’s Non-Compliance with the BPA Code of Practice

18. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 5 asserts that they are an accredited member of the British Parking Association (BPA) and operate in accordance with the BPA Code of Practice (CoP). However, this statement is demonstrably false, as the Claimant’s own evidence proves multiple breaches of the BPA CoP (Version 8), which was in effect at the time of the alleged contravention.

19. The Claimant’s witness further states that the BPA has a Code of Practice that its members are expected to adhere to, or otherwise face potential sanctions. This assertion is inherently untrue. BPA membership does not automatically mean compliance, and the BPA rarely enforces meaningful sanctions against its members, even when serious breaches occur. In this case, the evidence provided by the Claimant itself proves non-compliance with multiple sections of the BPA CoP.

20. The lack of compliant signage is evident from the Claimant’s own exhibits. The Claimant’s witness, Sarah Ensall, falsely claims adherence to the British Parking Association (BPA) Code of Practice (CoP) while simultaneously submitting non-compliant signage as evidence.

21. The Claimant’s evidential photos of signage at the location, found in Exhibit 2 of their Witness Statement, predominantly depict signs that contain no contractual terms whatsoever. These signs are either instructional, directional, or otherwise irrelevant to the formation of a contract with motorists. The only sign that purportedly contains any contractual terms is found at pages 46, 48 and 50 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement. However, this sign is almost impossible to read due to its poor positioning and excessive use of small print. It is mounted high on a pole, making it difficult for any driver to meaningfully engage with, particularly in low-light conditions.

22. Furthermore, the core contractual term—the parking charge amount for a breach—is buried within a wall of tiny text, in direct contravention of the requirements set out in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, which emphasised the need for prominent, clear, and legible signage. In Beavis, the Supreme Court upheld the parking charge on the basis that the £85 charge was clearly and prominently displayed on a sign that was simple, highly visible, and capable of conveying the essential contractual terms at a glance. The Claimant’s signage in this case bears no resemblance to the signage in Beavis and fails to meet the same legal standard.

23. This is further evidence of non-compliance with the BPA Code of Practice, which at Section 19.3 states:

"Signs must be conspicuous and legible, and written in intelligible language, so that they are easy to see, read and understand."

24. The Claimant’s signage is neither conspicuous nor legible, and the terms and conditions are not easy to read or understand, making it impossible for a motorist to enter into a fair and informed contractual agreement. I submit a comparison between the Claimant’s signage and the signage in the Beavis case as Exhibit [XX-01], to demonstrate the clear inadequacy of their signage and their failure to meet both contract law principles, the mandatory BPA CoP requirements and the requirement in PoFA 2(2) which states: "The reference in the definition of “parking charge” to a sum in the nature of damages is to a sum of which adequate notice was given to drivers of vehicles (when the vehicle was parked on the relevant land)."

25 The Claimant’s own exhibits contradict their claim of compliance with the BPA CoP. This demonstrates that the witness lacks direct knowledge of the facts and that their statement is unreliable, misleading, and hearsay.

26. While there are further failures of compliance with the BPA CoP, which will be addressed later in this Witness Statement, the above breaches alone are irrefutable proof that the Claimant does not adhere to the BPA CoP, rendering paragraph 5 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement wholly unreliable and untrue.

The Claimant’s Unlawful Access to DVLA Data

27. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 6 asserts that compliance with the BPA Code of Practice is essential for the Claimant to obtain Registered Keeper details from the DVLA under Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002. The witness further claims that the Claimant "complies in all regards" with the BPA Code, thereby satisfying the requirements for accessing DVLA data.

28. This statement is demonstrably false. As already established in this Witness Statement, the Claimant does not comply with the BPA Code of Practice, as evidenced by their own signage. Since full, strict compliance with the BPA Code of Practice is a fundamental condition of the Keeper At Date Of Event (KADOE) contract between private parking operators and the DVLA, the Claimant’s access to DVLA data is unlawful.

29. The KADOE contract explicitly states that an operator must adhere to the BPA Code of Practice in its entirety as a condition of being granted access to Registered Keeper data. Any failure to meet the requirements of the Code, including but not limited to inadequate signage, misleading contractual terms, or procedural breaches, invalidates an operator’s lawful basis for requesting and processing keeper details from the DVLA.

30. The evidence provided by the Claimant itself proves that its signage does not meet the requirements of the BPA Code. As such, the Claimant has unlawfully accessed my data in contravention of the KADOE contract, which constitutes a breach of the Data Protection Act 2018 and UK GDPR, as it obtained and processed my personal data without a lawful basis.

31. The claim that the Claimant "complies in all regards" with the BPA Code is therefore untrue, and the Claimant’s entitlement to obtain, retain, and use my data is in serious doubt.

32. Further breaches of the BPA Code of Practice will be detailed later in this Witness Statement, reinforcing the fact that the Claimant has no lawful right to process or use my personal data for the purposes of issuing or pursuing this claim.

The Claimant Falsely States Issue Dates

33. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 7 falsely states that the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) was "issued" on 18/12/2021. However, the Claimant’s own evidence, shown in their Exhibit 6, proves that the Notice to Keeper (NtK)—which constitutes the formal issuance of the parking charge—was in fact issued on 23/12/2021.

34. This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts, as the NtK is the formal notice that initiates enforcement action against the Registered Keeper. The Claimant’s assertion that the charge was "issued" on 18/12/2021 is demonstrably false, and it is unclear whether this is due to gross negligence or an intentional attempt to mislead the court.

35. This mendacious statement was also included in the Particulars of Claim, meaning that the Claimant has knowingly submitted incorrect information at multiple stages of these proceedings. This is a blatant breach of CPR 16.4, which requires the Claimant to provide a concise and accurate statement of the facts upon which they rely.

36. Given that the Claimant’s own documentary evidence contradicts their Witness Statement and Particulars of Claim, it is clear that the statements made by their witness are unreliable and untrustworthy. This further supports the contention that the Claimant’s case is based on procedural defects, misrepresentations, and abuse of process.

The Claimant’s Failure to Prove Landowner Authority

37. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 8 asserts that they have a valid contract with the landowner authorising them to issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs). However, the contract provided in their Exhibit 1 is so heavily redacted that it is meaningless and constitutes a clear abuse of process.

38. The document is so extensively redacted that it fails to confirm the identity of the contracting parties, the date of the agreement, the scope of authority granted, or even the names, positions, and authority of the signatories. Without this key information, the Claimant has provided no admissible evidence that they have landowner authority, which is a fundamental requirement for bringing this claim.

39. This excessive redaction contravenes CPR 31.6, which requires disclosure of documents relied upon in proceedings. The absence of an unredacted contract means there is no verifiable evidence that the Claimant has the locus standi to pursue this claim.

40. A parking operator must have clear landowner authority to issue and enforce parking charges. This was confirmed in ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd [2012] EWCA Civ 1338, where the Court of Appeal emphasised that authority must be demonstrated through an unambiguous contract. The Claimant’s contract is so heavily redacted that it is impossible to verify whether they have such authority.

41. The redacted contract does not allow the Defendant or the court to verify that the Claimant has the right to operate at the site, issue charges, or pursue legal action in its own name. The Claimant’s failure to provide an unredacted contract means there is no proof that they were authorised to act at the time of the alleged contravention.

42. The level of redaction in their Exhibit 1 is wholly unreasonable. Even security services disclose less heavily redacted documents under the Official Secrets Act. It is improper for the Claimant to expect the court to accept such an incomplete and unverifiable document as proof of their legal standing.

43. Given that the Claimant has failed to comply with CPR 31.6, Practice Direction 16, paragraph 7.5, and established case law, I submit that this claim should be dismissed due to the Claimant’s failure to provide fundamental evidence of their authority.

44. If the Claimant has submitted an unredacted version of the contract to the court while withholding it from me, this would constitute a clear breach of fairness and transparency in legal proceedings, violating CPR 31.14, which entitles a party to inspect a document mentioned in a statement of case.

45. The Claimant’s refusal to disclose an unredacted contract suggests either (a) the contract does not contain the necessary authority for them to issue PCNs and pursue legal action, or (b) they are attempting to restrict my ability to scrutinise the agreement, gaining an unfair procedural advantage. Either scenario is an abuse of process that should not be tolerated by the court.

46. In light of the above, I submit that the Claimant has failed to establish that it has landowner authority, has engaged in procedural misconduct, and that this claim should be dismissed in its entirety.

The Claimant’s Misuse of Case Law on Landowner Authority

47. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 9 states, "I am advised by the Claimant, that the Landowner Agreement has been extended by mutual consent of the parties." This statement is purely hearsay and provides no actual evidence that a valid contract was in force at the time of the alleged contravention.

48. The Claimant’s reliance on One Parking Solution Ltd v Wilshaw [2021] is misplaced. That case does not establish a general rule that landowner authority is irrelevant, nor does it override the requirement for a Claimant to prove its legal standing when challenged.

49. In Wilshaw, the operator’s landowner authority was not disputed. By contrast, in this case, the Claimant’s own redacted and undated contract raises serious doubts as to whether they had authority to issue PCNs at the time of the alleged contravention. The absence of an unambiguous contract distinguishes this case from Wilshaw, making the Claimant’s reliance on it inappropriate. The Claimant cannot rely on Wilshaw to bypass the need to prove its standing where it has been actively challenged

50. The Claimant cannot cite Wilshaw to bypass the fundamental requirement to prove its standing, especially when this issue has been actively challenged. Without clear, unredacted evidence of landowner authority, the claim cannot succeed.

51. As the Claimant has failed to provide admissible proof that it had the authority to operate at the site on the relevant date, no valid contract could have existed between the Claimant and the Defendant. Consequently, the claim must fail.

52. The Claimant has failed to provide clear, unredacted evidence that it had authority to operate at the site on the relevant date. Without such proof, no valid contract with the Defendant could have existed, and the claim must fail.

No Contract Was Formed Due to Signage and Machine Failures

53. I deny the Claimant’s assertions in paragraphs 11 to 16 of their Witness Statement regarding the alleged contract. I did not knowingly agree to any contract with the Claimant, nor did I breach any stated terms.

54. I attempted to pay for parking at the site but was unable to increase the duration of stay due to what I believe was a fault with the payment machine. The machines were also positioned in a poorly lit area, and at 9 PM in December, visibility was extremely poor. I could barely see what I was pressing, which made it difficult to ensure that the correct payment had been made.

55. The fundamental basis of a contract is mutual agreement, which requires a clear offer and unambiguous acceptance. Given that the signage was already incapable of forming a contract, as previously discussed, and that the payment process was hindered by external factors beyond my control, no legally binding agreement could have been formed.

56. The Claimant has provided no evidence that the payment machine was functioning correctly at the time or that it was sufficiently illuminated for drivers to reasonably interact with it. Without proof that a valid contract was entered into, the claim cannot succeed.

The Claimant’s Misrepresentation of Liability Under PoFA

57. The Claimant’s Witness Statement, under the section titled "Defendant’s Liability", covering paragraphs 17 to 20, contains further breaches of both the BPA Code of Practice (CoP) and the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012.

58. In paragraph 17, the Claimant’s witness falsely states that "Pursuant to the Contract; the Driver was liable to pay the Parking Charge within 28 days of issue." This is incorrect and contradicts both the BPA CoP and PoFA.

59. The BPA CoP, section 21.11, explicitly states that the Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not impose immediate liability on the keeper but serves three purposes:

• It invites the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charge.
• It invites the keeper to identify the driver if they were not the driver.
• It starts the 28-day period after which the keeper may become liable, but only if the operator fully complies with PoFA.

60. The BPA CoP, section 21.12, further confirms that an effective Notice to Keeper must meet the requirements of PoFA Schedule 4. The Claimant’s witness has completely misstated the legal position, as PoFA does not make the driver or keeper liable within 28 days of "issue", but instead follows the specific statutory timelines set out in Schedule 4.

61. PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 9(2)(f) states that the 28-day period begins from the day after that on which the notice is "given", not from the date of "issue".

62. PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 9(6) then defines when a notice is "given." A notice sent by post is presumed to have been delivered on the second working day after it was posted, unless the contrary is proved. For these purposes, a "working day" excludes Saturdays, Sundays, and public holidays in England and Wales.

63. This position was later reinforced in the latest BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice, section 8.1.2(e), which states that the recipient has 28 days to appeal from the date of "receipt", not from the date of "issue".

64. The Claimant’s witness, who has already demonstrated a lack of direct knowledge of the facts, is once again making false statements that contradict the statutory framework of PoFA and the BPA CoP. These errors, whether due to negligence or an intentional attempt to misrepresent the facts, render the Claimant’s Witness Statement unreliable and untrustworthy.

65. Given that the Claimant’s witness has now provided multiple contradictory and misleading statements, their entire testimony should be treated with significant doubt, and the claim itself must be called into question.

The Claimant’s Attempt to Rectify Defective Pleadings via the Witness Statement

66. The Claimant’s Witness Statement, under the sections titled "Defence" and "Amount Claimed" (paragraphs 21 to 32), attempts to retrospectively introduce new details and justifications that were absent from the original PoC. However, as already established in paragraphs 2-11 above, a Witness Statement cannot remedy defective pleadings.

67. The Claimant asserts that I was afforded a 28-day appeal period but failed to engage with it. However, my decision not to participate in a voluntary and non-statutory appeals process has no bearing on my liability. The appeals process run by unregulated private parking operators does not override legal rights, and a motorist cannot be penalised for choosing to defend themselves in court rather than engaging with an unregulated system.

68. The Claimant further argues that I had the opportunity to challenge the charge after receiving debt collection letters and a Letter of Claim. This is irrelevant. Debt collection letters are not legal determinations of liability, and ignoring them does not equate to acceptance of the claim. Furthermore, the Parking On Private Land Appeals service (POPLA), associated with BPA operators, has been widely criticised for its lack of impartiality, rendering the Claimant’s argument baseless.

69. The Claimant asserts that I breached the contract by overstaying the paid parking period. However, I have already provided evidence that my ability to comply with the alleged terms was hindered by a faulty payment machine and inadequate lighting at the time of payment. The Claimant’s WS does not address these issues or provide any evidence that the payment system was fully operational at the time.

70. The Claimant relies on their Exhibit 2 to prove contractual agreement. However, their signage fails to meet the required standards to form a legally binding contract. The charge for breach was buried in a block of small, unreadable text, failing the principle of "prominent and transparent" terms established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67. Additionally, the Claimant has not provided evidence of a compliant entrance sign, contrary to the BPA Code of Practice (v8) Section 19.2, which mandates clear entrance signage.

71. The Claimant attempts to justify the inadequacy of their PoC by referring to Practice Direction 7C, Section 5.2(1) and 5.2A. However, while these rules permit brief particulars of claim in money claims, they do not absolve the Claimant of the obligation to provide sufficient detail under CPR 16.4. The Claimant had the opportunity to submit Further and Better Particulars but chose not to do so. A defective PoC cannot be retrospectively rectified through a Witness Statement.

The £100 Charge and Additional £70 Are Unenforceable

72. The Claimant asserts that the £100 parking charge is justified under ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67. However, Beavis concerned a free stay car park, where the charge was upheld as a necessary deterrent to ensure turnover of spaces for retail customers. This rationale does not apply to a pay-and-display car park, where an operator is expected to charge in proportion to actual loss or operational costs. The Claimant has failed to provide any breakdown of its costs to justify this amount in a pay-and-display setting.

73. The Claimant further relies on signage to establish that a contract was formed, yet the signage evidence provided does not meet the required legal standards. The terms are buried in a block of small, unreadable text, and there is no evidence that an entrance sign was in place or clearly visible at the material time. The Supreme Court in Beavis made clear that contractual terms must be "prominent and transparent", yet the key terms relied upon by the Claimant fail to meet this standard.

74. In a pay-and-display setting, a motorist must be given a fair opportunity to read and understand the contractual terms before being bound by them. The burden is on the Claimant to prove that this was the case. Given the deficiencies in the signage and the lack of clarity regarding how the charge arises, I submit that no valid contract was formed.

75. Furthermore, the Claimant has not provided evidence that the payment system was fully operational at the time. I have already presented evidence that my ability to comply with the alleged terms was hindered by a faulty payment machine and inadequate lighting. A contract cannot be enforced where compliance was made impossible due to the Claimant’s own failures.

76. In light of the above, I submit that no enforceable parking contract was formed, and the claim should be dismissed on this basis alone.

77. The Supreme Court in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67 made it clear that the parking charge itself must cover all operational costs, including enforcement. At paragraph 98, Lord Neuberger and Lord Sumption stated:

"One [purpose of the charge] was to manage the efficient use of parking space in the interests of the retail outlets, and of the users of those outlets who wish to find spaces in which to park their cars… The other purpose was to provide an income stream to enable ParkingEye to meet the costs of operating the scheme and make a profit from its services, without which those services would not be available."

78. Similarly, at paragraph 193, Lord Hodge confirmed:

"The scheme gave BAPF through ParkingEye’s weekly payments some income to cover the costs of providing and maintaining the car park. Judging by ParkingEye’s accounts, and unless the Chelmsford car park was out of the ordinary, the scheme also covered ParkingEye’s costs of operation and gave their shareholders a healthy annual profit."

79. These statements establish that all necessary operational costs—including those associated with enforcement and recovering unpaid charges—are already incorporated within the parking charge itself. The Claimant’s attempt to impose an additional £70 fee is therefore an abuse of process, as it constitutes an attempt at double recovery. This improper practice has been repeatedly struck down in multiple County Court judgments, including Excel Parking v Wilkinson [2023] and Britannia Parking v Semark-Jullien [2020].

80. The Claimant attempts to justify the additional £70 charge by citing Chaplair Ltd v Kumari [2015] EWCA Civ 798, claiming it allows contractual indemnity costs. However, this is a misrepresentation of the case. Chaplair concerned a tenancy agreement with an explicit indemnity clause, which has no relevance to a private parking contract where no such clause exists.

81. The Claimant further attempts to reserve the right to claim additional costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g), suggesting that I have acted unreasonably. However, it is the Claimant who has acted unreasonably by:

• Failing to provide adequate Particulars of Claim in breach of CPR 16.4.
• Failing to provide an unredacted contract to prove landowner authority.
• Misrepresenting PoFA compliance regarding keeper liability.
• Attempting to recover an additional £70 despite clear Supreme Court and County Court rulings to the contrary.

82. If any party has acted unreasonably, it is the Claimant in bringing a claim riddled with procedural defects, misrepresentations, and excessive charges. The attempt to inflate the claim with an unlawful £70 sum alone constitutes an abuse of process and should not be allowed.

83. Given that courts have consistently ruled against the addition of arbitrary sums such as £70, I submit that the court should strike out the added charge as an unrecoverable sum. In light of the above, I request that:

(a) The additional £70 charge be struck out as an abuse of process.
(b) The Claimant’s reliance on Chaplair v Kumari be dismissed as irrelevant.
(c) The claim, being procedurally and substantively flawed, be dismissed in its entirety.

Conclusion: The Claim Should Be Dismissed

84. The Claimant has made numerous procedural defects, failed to establish landowner authority, has submitted vague and defective Particulars of Claim, has attempted to circumvent proper procedure by relying on a Witness Statement to introduce new arguments, and has sought to recover sums that courts have consistently ruled to be an abuse of process.

85. Given the serious procedural defects, misrepresentations, and abuse of process in this case, I respectfully request that the claim be dismissed in its entirety.

Use the following image as one of your exhibits to show that the sign does not comply with the BPA CoP and the difference between the clarity in the Beavis case:

(https://i.imgur.com/oFiKwQN.jpeg)

Everything should be paginated and indexed. So, the exhibit should be on its own page with the court headers.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 11, 2025, 04:36:03 pm
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Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 11, 2025, 04:35:04 pm
Thanks for this. I've got a question about point 51 of my WS, am I admitting that I tried to pay which means that they can probably infer that I was the driver? I was planning to keep the identity unknown.

I have also located some images of the machine which I took shortly after the first PCN which may be useful.

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Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 11, 2025, 02:30:15 pm
I think your imagination is running away from you. They will not have a "lawyer". They will have some pay by the hour legal wannabe advocate that received the case either the night before or more likely, just an hour or so before the hearing. Your WS already states that they cannot introduce any evidence that hasn't already been countered in your WS.

The judge is going to consider all the points in your WS and most likely will give the advocate a hard time if they cannot answer the questions.

In case you are worried about how this all takes place, have a look at this short video:

https://youtu.be/n93eoaxhzpU?feature=shared

Don't send anything yet. I need to tidy up that WS as there is too much repetition in there.

When you go to the hearing, make sure you take two hard copies of your WS. It is not unknown for these rent-an-advocate to plead that their client never received a copy of your WS in an attempt to either delay the hearing or to pretend that you never sent yours. In that case,, you simply tell the judge that you have evidence of having sent your WS and you have also brought copies for both the judge and the claimant as this tactic is not unknown.

Make sure you make a crib sheet to highlight the points you are making.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 11, 2025, 12:05:39 pm
Hi, thanks for this. I've read it and I'm happy to sign it and send it off later this week.
My only worry is how I'm going to talk about these points in front of a judge and opposing lawyer as I'm not legally trained.

What are the chances that a solicitor actually turns up to represent ECP?
I'll give it my best shot at court but I'm not very confident.

Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 10, 2025, 07:04:41 pm
Here is a draft WS which probably needs some refinement because of some repetition. I'll let others have a look at it first and take suggestions. OP, you will have to read it and decide whether you are prepared to sign in under a statement of truth.

Quote
IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Euro Car Parks Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



WITNESS STATEMENT


I, [Defendant’s Full Name], am the Defendant in this claim and make this statement in support of my defence. The facts in this statement are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

Preliminary matter

2. The Claimant’s Particulars of Claim (PoC) and Witness Statement (WS) are both procedurally defective and should be given no weight due to their failure to comply with the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR) and the improper execution of their statements of truth.

3. The PoC fail to comply with CPR 16.4 and Practice Direction 16, paragraph 7.5. The Claimant had an obligation to fully particularise the claim at the time of issuing proceedings but failed to:

a) Set out the exact wording of the clause(s) of the terms and conditions relied upon.
(b) Adequately explain how the terms of the alleged contract were incorporated or why I am said to be in breach.
(c) Distinguish whether the claim is brought against me as the driver or the keeper.
(d) Provide a breakdown of how the total sum claimed has been calculated, including interest and alleged additional charges.

4. Despite the Claimant’s failure to adequately plead its case, the allocation judge did not order the Claimant to amend or clarify its PoC. The Claimant has since sought to introduce additional details via its Witness Statement, but this does not cure the defective PoC. A Witness Statement cannot remedy an inadequate statement of case, and this attempt to rectify procedural failings at a later stage is an abuse of process.

5. The PoC are signed by Sarah Ensall, described as the "Claimant’s legal representative", but there is no evidence that she is a solicitor or that she has the formal authorisation required under CPR 22.1 and Practice Direction 22 to sign a statement of truth on behalf of the Claimant.

6. CPR 22.1(6) and PD 22, paragraph 3.9, require that:

(a) If signed by a legal representative, they must be a solicitor or a person formally authorised by the Claimant.
(b) The signatory must be responsible for the conduct of the case.

7. Sarah Ensall is not a solicitor, and the Claimant has not provided evidence that she has explicit authorisation to sign statements of truth on behalf of Euro Car Parks. The Claimant must demonstrate that she has the required formal standing to sign the PoC. If she does not, the statement of truth is defective, and the PoC are procedurally invalid.

8. The same procedural failure applies to the Witness Statement, which is also signed by Sarah Ensall. She is not a direct witness with knowledge of the facts and has no first-hand evidence regarding the alleged parking event, the contract, or the issuance of the charge. Instead, the WS is based on hearsay, without a supporting statement from a Euro Car Parks employee who has direct knowledge of the facts.

9. The Witness Statement attempts to introduce new arguments and details that were absent from the PoC, including references to specific payment records, signage, and contract terms. However, this does not remedy the defective PoC and is an attempt to circumvent proper procedure.

10. The Claimant is a serial litigant represented by bulk litigation solicitors and should be fully aware of its obligations under the CPR. Despite this, it failed to properly plead its case at the outset and now seeks to correct its failings by introducing details at a later stage. This approach is unfair, unreasonable, and an abuse of process which puts me at a disadvantage and undermines the overriding objective.

11. In light of these procedural defects, I submit that:

(a) The PoC are inadequately pleaded, do not comply with CPR 16.4, and should be struck out under CPR 3.4(2)(a) as disclosing no reasonable grounds for bringing the claim.
(b) The statement of truth on both the PoC and WS is defective, as the Claimant has not demonstrated that Sarah Ensall was properly authorised to sign on their behalf.
(c) The Witness Statement should be given no weight, as it is based entirely on hearsay and does not correct the failings in the PoC.
(d) The court should consider whether the Claimant’s conduct in issuing vague claims and relying on late evidence constitutes unreasonable behaviour, warranting a costs order under CPR 27.14(2)(g).

12. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 5 asserts that they are an accredited member of the British Parking Association (BPA) and operate in accordance with the BPA Code of Practice (CoP). However, this statement is demonstrably false, as the Claimant’s own evidence proves multiple breaches of the BPA CoP (Version 8), which was in effect at the time of the alleged contravention.

13. The Claimant’s witness further states that the BPA has a Code of Practice that its members are expected to adhere to, or otherwise face potential sanctions. This assertion is inherently untrue. BPA membership does not automatically mean compliance, and the BPA rarely enforces meaningful sanctions against its members, even when serious breaches occur. In this case, the evidence provided by the Claimant itself proves non-compliance with multiple sections of the BPA CoP.

14. The signage provided by the Claimant in Exhibit 2 is incapable of forming a contract with the driver. The charge for breaching the terms is buried in a wall of tiny text on the tariff board, making it impossible to be adequately noticed by a driver. No other sign shown as evidence contains the core terms of the alleged contract, meaning no contract can be said to have been properly formed.

15. BPA CoP Section 19.1 states that operators must use signs to make it easy for drivers to find out what the terms and conditions are. The signage in Exhibit 2 fails this test. The key terms are not prominent, not readable, and are buried in small print. The Claimant has failed to ensure that the terms and conditions are brought to the driver's attention from the outset, making any alleged contract unenforceable.

16. BPA CoP Section 19.2 states that a standard form of entrance sign must be placed at the entrance to the parking area. The Claimant has provided no evidence of an entrance sign in its exhibits. Entrance signs are mandatory unless the location falls within a small list of exemptions, none of which apply in this case.

17. BPA CoP Section 19.3 states that signs containing the specific parking terms must be placed throughout the site, so that drivers are given the chance to read them at the time of parking or leaving their vehicle. The signage in Exhibit 2 does not meet this requirement. The terms are not easily visible at key decision points, not clearly legible due to small print, and buried within a long block of text. This directly violates Lord Denning’s "Red Hand Rule," which requires the most onerous terms, such as a financial penalty, to be the most prominent.

18. BPA CoP Section 19.4 states that if an operator intends to use the keeper liability provisions in Schedule 4 of PoFA 2012, the signage must give adequate notice. The Claimant's evidence fails to show that the charge for an alleged breach was brought adequately to the attention of the driver. Since PoFA requires full compliance with all relevant provisions, the failure to meet this signage requirement alone invalidates any attempt to rely on PoFA to hold the keeper liable.

19. BPA CoP Section 19.9 states that there must be at least one sign containing the terms and conditions for parking that can be viewed without needing to leave the vehicle. The Claimant’s own photographic evidence of the disabled bays confirms that no readable terms and conditions sign is visible from within a vehicle. A driver with mobility impairments would be forced to exit their vehicle to read the terms, in direct breach of this requirement.

20. The lack of compliant signage is evident from the Claimant’s own exhibits. The Claimant’s witness, Sarah Ensall, falsely claims adherence to the BPA CoP while simultaneously submitting non-compliant signage as evidence.

21 The Claimant’s own exhibits contradict their claim of compliance with the BPA CoP. This demonstrates that the witness lacks direct knowledge of the facts and that their statement is unreliable, misleading, and hearsay.

22. While there are further failures of compliance with the BPA CoP, which will be addressed later in this Witness Statement, the above breaches alone are irrefutable proof that the Claimant does not adhere to the BPA CoP, rendering paragraph 5 of the Claimant’s Witness Statement wholly unreliable and untrue.

23. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 6 asserts that compliance with the BPA Code of Practice is essential for the Claimant to obtain Registered Keeper details from the DVLA under Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002. The witness further claims that the Claimant "complies in all regards" with the BPA Code, thereby satisfying the requirements for accessing DVLA data.

24. This statement is demonstrably false. As already established in this Witness Statement, the Claimant does not comply with the BPA Code of Practice, as evidenced by their own signage. Since full, strict compliance with the BPA Code of Practice is a fundamental condition of the Keeper At Date Of Event (KADOE) contract between private parking operators and the DVLA, the Claimant’s access to DVLA data is unlawful.

25. The KADOE contract explicitly states that an operator must adhere to the BPA Code of Practice in its entirety as a condition of being granted access to Registered Keeper data. Any failure to meet the requirements of the Code, including but not limited to inadequate signage, misleading contractual terms, or procedural breaches, invalidates an operator’s lawful basis for requesting and processing keeper details from the DVLA.

26. The evidence provided by the Claimant itself proves that its signage does not meet the requirements of the BPA Code. As such, the Claimant has unlawfully accessed my data in contravention of the KADOE contract, which constitutes a breach of the Data Protection Act 2018 and UK GDPR, as it obtained and processed my personal data without a lawful basis.

27. The claim that the Claimant "complies in all regards" with the BPA Code is therefore untrue, and the Claimant’s entitlement to obtain, retain, and use my data is in serious doubt.

28. Further breaches of the BPA Code of Practice will be detailed later in this Witness Statement, reinforcing the fact that the Claimant has no lawful right to process or use my personal data for the purposes of issuing or pursuing this claim.

29. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 7 falsely states that the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) was "issued" on 18/12/2021. However, the Claimant’s own evidence, shown in Exhibit 6, proves that the Notice to Keeper (NtK)—which constitutes the formal issuance of the parking charge—was in fact issued on 23/12/2021.

30. This is a deliberate misrepresentation of the facts, as the NtK is the formal notice that initiates enforcement action against the Registered Keeper. The Claimant’s assertion that the charge was "issued" on 18/12/2021 is demonstrably false, and it is unclear whether this is due to gross negligence or an intentional attempt to mislead the court.

31. This mendacious statement was also included in the Particulars of Claim, meaning that the Claimant has knowingly submitted incorrect information at multiple stages of these proceedings. This is a blatant breach of CPR 16.4, which requires the Claimant to provide a concise and accurate statement of the facts upon which they rely.

32. Given that the Claimant’s own documentary evidence contradicts their Witness Statement and Particulars of Claim, it is clear that the statements made by their witness are unreliable and untrustworthy. This further supports the contention that the Claimant’s case is based on procedural defects, misrepresentations, and abuse of process.

33. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 8 asserts that their client has a valid contract with the landowner that authorises them to issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) at the location. However, the contract provided in Exhibit 1 is so heavily redacted that it is meaningless and constitutes a clear abuse of process.

34. The document is so extensively redacted that it fails to confirm the identity of the contracting parties, the date of the agreement, the scope of authority granted, or even the names, positions, and authority of the signatories. The absence of this key information means the Claimant has provided no admissible evidence that they have landowner authority, which is a fundamental requirement for bringing this claim.

35. This excessive redaction contravenes the principles set out in CPR 31.6, which requires disclosure of documents that are relied upon in proceedings. The Claimant has failed to provide an unredacted contract, meaning there is no verifiable evidence that they have the locus standi to pursue this claim.

36. The Claimant is required to prove that it has the necessary authority from the landowner to issue and enforce PCNs. This principle was confirmed in ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd [2012] EWCA Civ 1338, where the Court of Appeal made it clear that a parking operator must have clear landowner authority to enforce parking charges. The contract they have provided is so heavily redacted that it is impossible to verify whether they have such authority, making their evidence wholly unreliable.

37. The Claimant has failed to meet these basic requirements. The redacted contract does not allow myself or the court to verify that the Claimant has the right to operate at the site, issue charges, or pursue legal action in its own name. The Court of Appeal in ParkingEye Ltd v Somerfield Stores Ltd [2012] EWCA Civ 1338 made it clear that a parking operator must have clear landowner authority to enforce parking charges.

38. The level of redaction in Exhibit 1 is wholly unreasonable. The security services disclose less heavily redacted documents under the Official Secrets Act than what the Claimant has submitted here. It is entirely improper for the Claimant to expect the court to accept such an incomplete and unverified document as evidence of their legal standing.

39. Given that the Claimant has failed to comply with CPR 31.6, Practice Direction 16, paragraph 7.5, and the principles established in case law, I submit that this claim should be dismissed in its entirety due to the Claimant’s failure to provide fundamental evidence to support their claim.

40. If the Claimant has provided the court with an unredacted version of the contract but has only disclosed a heavily redacted version to me as the Defendant, this abuse of process is even more acute. The Claimant cannot selectively disclose evidence to the court while deliberately withholding key contractual information from the Defendant. This would be a clear breach of the principles of fairness and transparency in legal proceedings, as well as a violation of CPR 31.14, which entitles a party to inspect a document that is mentioned in a statement of case.

42. The Claimant's refusal to disclose an unredacted contract to me suggests that either (a) the contract does not contain the necessary authority for them to issue PCNs and pursue legal action, or (b) they are attempting to gain an unfair procedural advantage by restricting my ability to scrutinise the alleged agreement. Either scenario is an abuse of process that should not be tolerated by the court.

42. In light of the above, I submit that the Claimant has failed to establish that it has landowner authority, has engaged in procedural misconduct, and that this claim should be dismissed in its entirety.

43. The Claimant’s Witness Statement at paragraph 9 states, "I am advised by the Claimant, that the Landowner Agreement has been extended by mutual consent of the parties." This statement is purely hearsay and provides no actual evidence that a valid contract was in force at the time of the alleged contravention.

44. The witness admits that they have been "advised" by the Claimant, rather than asserting first-hand knowledge of the contract’s validity or duration. This further demonstrates that the witness is not a direct representative of the landowner or a party to the alleged agreement and has no authority to attest to its terms.

45. The Claimant has failed to provide any documentary evidence proving that the contract was valid on the date of the alleged contravention. The heavily redacted contract in Exhibit 1 contains no visible date, term length, renewal clauses, or signatory details, meaning the Claimant has provided no proof that it was in force at the relevant time.

46. The absence of any dated, signed, and verifiable evidence showing that the contract was active at the time of the alleged contravention means the Claimant has failed to establish its legal standing to issue or enforce PCNs at this site. Without such proof, the claim cannot succeed.

47. In the claimants witness statement at paragraph 9, the Claimant’s reliance on One Parking Solution Ltd v Wilshaw [2021] is misleading. That case does not establish a general rule that landowner authority is irrelevant, nor does it override the requirement for a Claimant to prove its legal standing when challenged.

48. In Wilshaw, the operator’s landowner authority was not disputed, whereas in this case, the Claimant’s own redacted and undated contract raises serious doubts about whether they had authority to issue PCNs at the time of the alleged contravention. The Claimant cannot rely on Wilshaw to bypass the need to prove its standing where it has been actively challenged.

49. The Claimant has failed to provide clear, unredacted evidence that it had authority to operate at the site on the relevant date. Without such proof, no valid contract with the Defendant could have existed, and the claim must fail.

50. I deny the Claimant’s assertions in paragraphs 11 to 16 of their Witness Statement regarding the alleged contract. I did not knowingly agree to any contract with the Claimant, nor did I breach any stated terms.

51. I attempted to pay for parking at the site but was unable to increase the duration of stay due to what I believe was a fault with the payment machine. The machines were also positioned in a poorly lit area, and at 9 PM in December, visibility was extremely poor. I could barely see what I was pressing, which made it difficult to ensure that the correct payment had been made.

52. The fundamental basis of a contract is mutual agreement, which requires a clear offer and unambiguous acceptance. Given that the signage was already incapable of forming a contract, as previously discussed, and that the payment process was hindered by external factors beyond my control, no legally binding agreement could have been formed.

53. The Claimant has provided no evidence that the payment machine was functioning correctly at the time or that it was sufficiently illuminated for drivers to reasonably interact with it. Without proof that a valid contract was entered into, the claim cannot succeed.

54. The Claimant’s Witness Statement, under the section titled "Defendant’s Liability", covering paragraphs 17 to 20, contains further breaches of both the BPA Code of Practice (CoP) and the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012.

55. In paragraph 17, the Claimant’s witness falsely states that "Pursuant to the Contract; the Driver was liable to pay the Parking Charge within 28 days of issue." This is incorrect and contradicts both the BPA CoP and PoFA.

56. The BPA CoP, section 21.11, explicitly states that the Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not impose immediate liability on the keeper but serves three purposes:

• It invites the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charge.
• It invites the keeper to identify the driver if they were not the driver.
• It starts the 28-day period after which the keeper may become liable, but only if the operator fully complies with PoFA.

57. The BPA CoP, section 21.12, further confirms that an effective Notice to Keeper must meet the requirements of PoFA Schedule 4. The Claimant’s witness has completely misstated the legal position, as PoFA does not make the driver or keeper liable within 28 days of "issue", but instead follows the specific statutory timelines set out in Schedule 4.

58. PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 9(2)(f) states that the 28-day period begins from the day after that on which the notice is "given", not from the date of issue.

59. PoFA Schedule 4, Paragraph 9(6) then defines when a notice is "given." A notice sent by post is presumed to have been delivered on the second working day after it was posted, unless the contrary is proved. For these purposes, a "working day" excludes Saturdays, Sundays, and public holidays in England and Wales.

60. This position was later reinforced in the latest BPA/IPC Private Parking Single Code of Practice, section 8.1.2(e), which states that the recipient has 28 days to appeal from the date of "receipt", not from the date of issue.

61. The Claimant’s witness, who has already demonstrated a lack of direct knowledge of the facts, is once again making false statements that contradict the statutory framework of PoFA and the BPA CoP. These errors, whether due to negligence or an intentional attempt to misrepresent the facts, render the Claimant’s Witness Statement unreliable and untrustworthy.

62. Given that the Claimant’s witness has now provided multiple contradictory and misleading statements, their entire testimony should be treated with significant doubt, and the claim itself must be called into question.

63. The Claimant’s Witness Statement, under the sections titled "Defence" and "Amount Claimed", covering paragraphs 21 to 32, contains procedural failings, misrepresentations of case law, and an unjustified attempt to add additional charges.

64. The Claimant asserts that I was afforded a 28-day appeal period but failed to engage with it. However, my decision not to engage in a process I had no legal obligation to undertake has no bearing on my liability. The appeals process run by private parking operators is not a legal requirement and does not override my legal rights.

65. The Claimant further argues that I had the opportunity to challenge the charge after receiving debt collection letters and a Letter of Claim. This is irrelevant. The Claimant cannot rely on the Defendant’s refusal to engage with what is widely known to be an unregulated and biased appeals process as an admission of liability. The Independent Appeals Service (IAS), the appeal body associated with IPC operators, has been criticised for its lack of impartiality, and even POPLA, the BPA’s appeals service, is limited in its remit. The fact that an individual chooses to defend a claim in court rather than engaging with an unregulated, self-serving system is not an admission of liability.

66. The Claimant asserts that I breached the contract by overstaying the paid parking period. However, as previously stated, I made a reasonable attempt to comply with the alleged terms but was prevented from doing so due to a faulty payment machine and inadequate lighting at the time of payment. If a parking operator provides a system that does not function properly and prevents customers from paying the required fee, liability cannot be imposed on the motorist.

67. The Claimant relies on Exhibit 2 to prove that I entered into a contract. However, I have already demonstrated that their signage fails to meet the standards required to form a legally binding contract. The terms of the contract were not sufficiently brought to the driver’s attention, and the charge for breach was buried in a block of small, unreadable text, breaching the principles of "prominent and transparent" contract terms as established in ParkingEye Ltd v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67. Additionally, the Claimant has failed to provide evidence of a compliant entrance sign, in direct breach of BPA Code of Practice (v8) Section 19.2, which requires that clear entrance signs be in place to notify motorists that a parking contract is in effect.

68. The Claimant attempts to justify the inadequacy of their Particulars of Claim (PoC) by referring to Practice Direction 7C, Section 5.2(1) and 5.2A. However, while these rules allow for brief particulars of claim in money claims, they do not exempt the Claimant from the requirements of CPR 16.4. The Claimant had the opportunity to submit further and better particulars after the Defence was filed but chose not to do so. The burden is on the Claimant to ensure their PoC are compliant from the outset. I, as the Defendant, am not obligated to correct the Claimant’s defective pleadings, nor does a failure to make an application to strike out prevent me from relying on the PoC’s deficiencies in their Defence.

69. The Claimant asserts that the £100 parking charge is justified under Beavis as falling within an accepted range of charges. However, Beavis involved a free stay car park, where the charge was upheld as a deterrent. In a pay-and-display car park, the operator is expected to charge in proportion to actual loss or operational costs. The Claimant has provided no breakdown of their costs to justify this amount in a pay-and-display setting.

70. The Claimant then attempts to justify an additional £70 charge as a contractual cost, citing signage terms that allegedly state that extra charges will be incurred if payment is not made. However, there is no such provision in the signage evidence provided by the Claimant. The terms are buried in a block of small, unreadable text, which does not meet the "prominent and transparent" standard set out in Beavis.

71. The Claimant asserts that debt recovery costs are separate from operational costs and are therefore recoverable. However, the Supreme Court in Beavis made it clear that the parking charge itself must cover all operational costs, including debt recovery. At paragraph 98 of Beavis, Lord Neuberger and Lord Sumption stated:

"The charge has to be large enough to provide an incentive to comply but not so large as to be unconscionable. It also covers the cost of running the scheme, including the cost of chasing late payments."

72. Similarly, at paragraph 193, Lord Hodge confirmed:

"The amount payable under the scheme includes the cost of operating the scheme and recovering the charges from those who refuse to pay. That is in the nature of a scheme which charges a deterrent sum, rather than a sum based exclusively on loss suffered."

73. These statements confirm that debt recovery costs are already included in the parking charge itself and should not be added separately. The Claimant’s attempt to impose an extra £70 is an abuse of process, as it seeks to recover an amount that has already been accounted for in the initial parking charge.

74. The Claimant attempts to justify the additional £70 charge by citing Chaplair Ltd v Kumari [2015] EWCA Civ 798, claiming it allows contractual indemnity costs. However, this is a misrepresentation of the case. Chaplair involved a tenancy agreement with an explicit indemnity clause, which is entirely distinct from a private parking charge.

75. Parking charge cases do not follow Chaplair, but rather Beavis, which does not permit additional charges beyond the core parking charge. This has been confirmed in Excel Parking v Wilkinson [2023] and Britannia Parking v Semark-Jullien [2020], where the courts have struck out such additional charges as an abuse of process.

76. The Claimant further attempts to reserve the right to claim additional costs under CPR 27.14(2)(g), suggesting that the Defendant has acted unreasonably. However, it is the Claimant who has acted unreasonably by:

• Failing to provide adequate Particulars of Claim in breach of CPR 16.4.
• Failing to provide an unredacted contract to prove landowner authority.
• Misrepresenting PoFA compliance regarding keeper liability.
• Falsely asserting that additional costs are recoverable despite clear Supreme Court and County Court judgments ruling otherwise.

77. If any party has acted unreasonably, it is the Claimant in bringing a claim riddled with procedural defects, misrepresentations, and excessive charges. The abuse of process in attempting to add the £70 charge alone is grounds for the court to dismiss the claim or strike out the additional sum.

78. Given that the Supreme Court in Beavis has already determined that debt recovery costs are incorporated into the parking charge, and given that lower courts have repeatedly ruled that the addition of arbitrary sums such as £70 is an abuse of process, I submit that the court should strike out the added charge as an unrecoverable sum.

79. In light of the above, I submit that:

(a) The additional £70 charge must be struck out as an abuse of process.
(b) The Claimant’s attempt to rely on Chaplair v Kumari is wholly irrelevant.
(c) The claim is procedurally and substantively flawed, and the court is invited to dismiss it in its entirety.

80. The Claimant’s Witness Statement concludes with an assertion that my Defence is "entirely without merit" and requests that it be struck out. This is a baseless and presumptive statement that disregards the multiple procedural failings, misrepresentations, and legal deficiencies in the Claimant’s case that I have demonstrated throughout this Witness Statement.

81. The Claimant’s witness, Sarah Jennifer Helena Ensall, states that she "may not be able to attend the hearing" and that an advocate will attend on her behalf under CPR 27.9. However, this is a misuse of CPR 27.9, which specifically governs hearings where neither the party nor their representative appears in person. CPR 27.9(1) states that if a party does not attend a hearing, they may rely on their written representations only if they have given notice to the court and to me no later than seven days before the hearing and have filed and served all documents on which they intend to rely.

82. The key limitation of CPR 27.9 is that the party choosing not to attend is restricted to relying on their written statement and may not introduce new arguments or evidence via an advocate. If no representative of Euro Car Parks is physically present, I submit that their advocate must not be allowed to make submissions or introduce any further arguments beyond the contents of the Witness Statement. The advocate cannot cross-examine me or argue points beyond what is already written. If an advocate attempts to introduce new material, I will object on the basis that this breaches CPR 27.9.

83. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the witness has any direct knowledge of the alleged contravention, and the Witness Statement itself consists largely of hearsay. If the Claimant does not produce a genuinely informed representative who can be cross-examined, then I submit that the court should give little to no weight to the Witness Statement and dismiss the claim.

84. The Claimant also seeks to recover the advocate’s fee for attending the hearing, which is another procedural overreach. Given that this is a small claims track case, I submit that costs are strictly limited under CPR 27.14. The attendance of an advocate is not a recoverable cost, and this request should be dismissed.

85. In light of this, if no Euro Car Parks representative is physically present, their advocate must not be permitted to introduce new arguments beyond the Witness Statement, and any attempt by the advocate to cross-examine me or make oral submissions beyond the Witness Statement should be challenged as a breach of CPR 27.9. The advocate’s fee must not be awarded, as it is not a recoverable cost under CPR 27.14. Given the serious procedural defects, misrepresentations, and abuse of process in this case, I respectfully request that the claim be dismissed in its entirety.

b]Statement of truth[/b]

I believe that the facts stated in this witness statement are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: DWMB2 on March 10, 2025, 02:09:32 pm
The landowner agreement they have provided is so heavily redacted as to essentially be meaningless.

They have redacted the name and address of the landowner, all the signatories, and the vast majority of the terms.

They have also seemingly redacted the period of duration of the contract, so it is not clear if it was even in force at the time of the parking event.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 10, 2025, 12:54:51 pm
That’s good. I will have a read and get back to you here.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 10, 2025, 12:38:41 pm
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/21xxbollsh37cp5g7glth/Witness-Statement-pag-output-1.pdf?rlkey=jfopnihptxph3aikj74i7dwxe&st=refpz4tm&dl=0

Hopefully this works...
Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 10, 2025, 12:14:03 pm
I suggest you redact your personal details and then host it on Dropbox or Google Drive
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 10, 2025, 10:58:40 am
Hi, I have received the WS from DCBLegal. Should I forward it here or send it by direct message. It has quite a lot confidential info.

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 06, 2025, 10:57:10 pm
I have prepared a WS that can be submitted at the very last moment if you don't receive a copy of the claimants WS first. However, because the draft order was not actioned, for whatever reason, it is not possible to provide a substantive WS except to argue the CPR 16.4 failures of the claimant in their PoC.

Rather than make it publicly available on here, I will keep it to one side for now. If, in the meantime you receive a copy of the claimants WS/bundle before the 14th March, then show that to us and I will adapt your WS accordingly.

This will likely all be very last minute and even if your WS is a day or so late, it is not likely to cause too many problems as this is the small claims track. However, we want to try and avoid any breach of the order if possible. Let the claimant make those breaches and then use them as part of your armoury.

So, for now, wait until you receive the claimants WS and then show us. If nothing is received by Wednesday 12th March, remind me here again.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 06, 2025, 10:50:21 am
Gentle reminder.
Thanks for your help with this.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on March 04, 2025, 01:21:30 pm
I am on the road at the moment and will need to get in front of a computer as I cannot do all this on a phone or iPad. Feel free to remind me after tomorrow when I will reach my destination.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on March 03, 2025, 11:27:23 am
So I phoned the court up this morning to check if the trial has been paid and the bloke on the call has said that the trial fee was paid on on 21st Feb so looks like I'm heading to court?

Do I need to start preparing my WS? I am quite surprised that the fee was paid and now feeling quite anxious about court. Is there still a possibility that they could discontinue?

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on February 10, 2025, 01:50:45 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on February 10, 2025, 01:45:49 pm
Ah sorry! Hearing date is 28th March. On the second page it states:
Each part must deliver to the other party and to the court office copies of all documents on which that party intends to rely at the hearing no later than 14 days before the hearing.

So worst case is that the trial fee gets paid and I have until 14th March to send my WS?

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on February 10, 2025, 01:25:39 pm
Why have you redacted the date of the hearing!!! I now have to assume that the hearing is not before the 28th March and that somewhere in the rest of the order you have been ordered to submit your WS no later than 14 days before the hearing date.

So, if you have not received a Notice of Discontinuation (NoD) form 279 by the 28th February, you will need to call the court on that date and confirm whether the claimant has discontinued and failed to send you a copy of the N279 and double check that the hearing on the (whatever date you redacted!) has been vacated.

If, in the very unlikely event that the hearing fee has been paid, then you will have time to prepare the WS with our assistance.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on February 10, 2025, 11:59:03 am
I received this in the post over the weekend and seems as though this case is approaching its conclusion...

I am right in thinking that I would only need to send a WS statement if they pay the £27 trial fee? Should I prepare a WS now or wait until 28th Feb to see if it has been paid and then prepare?

Worst case scenario, when's the deadline for sending my WS?

Many thanks

(https://i.imgur.com/mFS5jar.jpeg)[/img]
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on January 07, 2025, 04:25:28 pm
Ignore DCB Legal. Block their calls. All they want to do is try and persuade you to settle. If you ignore them, they will eventually discontinue the claim. I'd bet the claim amount that they will discontinue.

What you are now waiting for is a letter from the CNBC telling you that your case has been transferred to your local county court and you will receive directions from that court in due course. Most local county courts are backlogged and it can take months before you get a hearing date. However, the claim is going to be reviewed by a case management judge at some point and hopefully they will issue the draft order on the claimant or simply strike the claim out.

Wait and see.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on January 07, 2025, 03:53:30 pm
Just a quick update on this case,

I sent my DQ off and have since been receiving calls from the rats at DCB Legal which I have ignored. Then had a mediation appointment last week where I offered nothing and stated that I'm not prepared to settle etc.

Any idea what's likely to happen next and estimated timeframes for this?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on November 04, 2024, 06:20:33 pm
No. Just leave it.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on November 04, 2024, 06:19:27 pm
I've sent the DQ off and received an auto response from both emails.

When filling the form I only ticked 'defendant' and not 'first defendant' (at the start and end of the DQ). Should I resend it with an amendment or leave as is?

Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on November 04, 2024, 12:48:56 pm
Just send it as a pdf attachment in a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. As with the defence, you should receive an auto-response which confirms receipt.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on November 04, 2024, 12:45:09 pm
MCOL has now updated to 'DQ sent to you on 04/11/2024'. I've filled my DQ out and ready to send off. Is there anything else that needs to be attached or just the DQ PDF for now?

Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on November 01, 2024, 03:45:36 pm
No, you won't get anything now until your N180DQ has been sent. You are safe in the knowledge that your defence was recorded.

Download your own N180DQ and fill that in but don't send it until you see that one has been sent to you in the MCOL. After that, MCOL will not be needed anymore once it is transferred to a court local to you.

The N180, when you send it must be as a PDF attachment by email to dq.cnbc@justice.gov and you also address the same email to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Again, the claim number must be in the email subject and just mention in thermal body that the SQ for the case is attached.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on November 01, 2024, 03:03:17 pm
Sorry think I may have caused some confusion. So the last update in MCOL was defence received on 02/10/2024. I had received an automactic reply from CNBC to acknowledge my defence.

I am under the impression that MCOL will update to show something like 'claimant has responded' or something similar?

I've uploaded an image but I never know if it actually shows properly.
Thanks

(https://i.imgur.com/I2PFPjr.png)
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on November 01, 2024, 02:46:36 pm
When you sent your defence, did you receive an auto-response from the CNBC? Your MCOL should have been updated by now. It may be advisable to phone the CNBC and ask them why your MCOL has not been updated even though you submitted your defence a while ago and you received a letter confirming receipt from the CNBC .

There have been a few cases recently where the CNBC have screwed up and lost defences even though an auto-response was sent and default CCJs were entered. The CNCB will rectify this but it leads to extra work and time to get their screw ups sorted. It may be worthwhile calling the CNBC to confirm that they haven't mislaid your defence because MCOL hasn't been updated.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on November 01, 2024, 11:14:33 am
Hello folks, so as predicted, I have received a letter in the post from DCBLegal that they have have reviewed my defence and intend to proceed with claim (along with the other usual BS).

What are the next steps? Having read other threads I believe it's the DQ?

MCOL is yet to update that they have responded to my defence.

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on October 25, 2024, 07:13:46 pm
Patience. They have 28 days to respond but you don’t know when the CNBC sent a copy of your defence to them.

Keep checking your MCOL history and when you see that your DQ has been sent you can download one and complete it online.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on October 25, 2024, 06:37:06 pm
(https://www.ftla.uk/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Bimg%5Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtDzHYAq.jpeg&hash=57487163d7415a6c0efb7997419bfcc0f1270414)[/img]

Hi, just need some confirmation to make sure that I haven't missed a step in this process.

So on 30/09/2024 I submitted my defence and received this letter a few days later from the County Court.
MCOL was also updated to show that my defence was received on 02/10/2024.

However, since then, I have not received any letters or communication from anybody about this case which I've found puzzling. MCOL has not updated since 02/10/2024 either with the latest update being that my defence had been received.

Is there anything else that I need to do apart from wait?
If all I need to do is wait, what's the cut-off point for them to respond? (Letter states 28 days but unsure when it starts from)
In case I have missed any letters in the post, would MCOL update automatically if they wanted to proceed?
Is this unusual or expected from DCBLegal?

Thanks all
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 30, 2024, 04:31:21 pm
Thanks I've sent my defence and draft order off now and have received the automatic reply. I was having a look at my claim on MCOL and I've just realised that I've ticked the 'I intend to contest court jurisdiction'. Will this cause any problems?

Hopefully not.

You could take the following steps to correct the mistake:

Notify the Court in Writing: Send a letter by email to the CNCBC at dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk explaining the error you made in the N180 DQ. Include the correct information and clearly state which answer needs to be amended.

Resubmit the Corrected Form: Along with the letter, attach a corrected version of the N180 form (clearly marked as "Amended" at the top). Ensure the court claim number and parties’ names are included on both the letter and the form.

Send a Copy to the Other Party: Make sure to send a copy of the amended N180 DQ to the claimant or their solicitor, in line with the standard procedure.

Keep Records: Retain copies of all correspondence and the corrected form for your records and confirmation of receipt (if sent by email).

If in doubt about the process, you can contact the CNBC by phone to confirm they have received your correction and ask if further steps are necessary.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 30, 2024, 03:40:53 pm
Thanks I've sent my defence and draft order off now and have received the automatic reply. I was having a look at my claim on MCOL and I've just realised that I've ticked the 'I intend to contest court jurisdiction'. Will this cause any problems?

Thanks
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 18, 2024, 04:05:41 pm
Here is the defence and draft order that will go with it. Only the defence will need editing with the claimant and your names, the claim number and then signed by typing your name and dating it at the bottom.

Quote
IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]
BETWEEN:

[Claimant's Full Name]

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]

Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies any liability for this claim.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.


3.The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The reason stated in the PoC is not factually correct. A PandD/permit was purchased and did cover the date and time of parking;

(b) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.5;

(c) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(d) The PoC do not set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(e) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(f) The PoC do not state exactly how the claim for statutory interest is calculated;

(g) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(h) The PoC states that the Claimant is suing the defendant as the driver or the keeper. The claimant obviously knows whether the defendant is being sued as the driver or the keeper and should not be permitted to plead alternative causes of action.

4. The Defendant has attached to this defence a copy of an order made at another court which the allocating judge ought to make at this stage so that the Defendant can then know and understand the case which they face and can then respond properly to the claim.


Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order:

Quote
Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the Particulars of Claim and the defence

AND the court being of the view that there is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the Particulars of Claim do not comply with CPR 16.4.

It is Ordered that:

1. Unless the Claimant do, within 14 days of service of this order, file and serve at court a further Particulars of Claim supported by a statement of truth which complies with CPR 16.4 and which sets out:

(i) the precise and concise factual allegations it makes against the Defendant; and

(ii) the factual or legal [or both] basis of its claim; and

(iii) the evidence relied on that the Defendant was the driver; and

(iv) the evidence relied on that all the requirements of PoFA 14(2)(a) were complied with; and

(v) exactly how its claim is calculated (if there is a claim for a fixed sum)

then the claim shall be struck out.

2. For the avoidance of doubt the further Particulars of Claim must:

(a) refer to and have attached to them (clearly marked "A") a copy of the contract (or contracts) between the claimant and defendant relied on.

(b) set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is (or are) relied on.

(c) have attached to them (clearly marked "B") a copy of each of the PCNs which forms the basis of this claim.

(d) must state by what method each of the PCNs was first brought to the attention of the defendant. For example, attaching it to the defendant's vehicle.

(e) in respect of each alleged breach of contract, set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

(f) in respect of each alleged breach of contract, set out (i) the full postal address of where the breach took place and (ii) the precise date and time of the alleged breach and (iii) exactly how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was incurred.

(g) in respect of each alleged breach of contract, must state whether the defendant is sued as the driver of the vehicle or the keeper or the hirer of the vehicle.

(h) not plead that the defendant is sued in the alternative as the driver of the vehicle or as the keeper of the vehicle.

(i) state clearly whether the claim is brought under the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, and specify whether the defendant is pursued as the hirer or keeper of the vehicle. If the defendant is pursued as the hirer, the claimant must provide evidence of compliance with PoFA, including copies of the Notice to Hirer, the Notice to Keeper, and the relevant documents mandated in PoFA paragraph 14(2)(a).

(j) must explain the factual or legal (or both) basis of the claim for damages.

(k) set out a precise calculation of the claim for statutory interest up to the date of issue to include the date interest started running.

3. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by an application on notice which must be filed at this Court no more than 5 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.

Once you have made the required edits in the defence, save them both as PDF files and attach them to an email addressed to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject and in the body of the email just state that attached is the Defence and accompanying Draft Order for [claimant] v [defendant] Claim No.: [claim number].

When sent, make sure that you receive an auto response from the CNBC which should be almost immediate and certainly within a few minutes. If not, try again and if still no luck, use a different email agent.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 18, 2024, 03:19:32 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/VFhhnCg.jpeg)

Hopefully this works. I could attach images fine last week.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 18, 2024, 02:11:22 pm
You image of the PoC is no longer available. I need to see the PoC in order to make sure the Defence is applicable.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 18, 2024, 02:03:31 pm
Hi, I was wondering if you have had any time to draft a defence that I could use? Of course there's no real rush as I have until Oct 8th to submit one and I'm more than happy to wait.

(Apologies for asking, I'm a little bit in the dark at the moment and I'm very grateful for the responses received so far).

Happy to provide more info if required.

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 14, 2024, 01:04:43 pm
Unfortunately, none of those reviews are relevant to any defence. They also show how widespread peoples ignorance of the law and their rights is. Everyone referring to the PCNs as "fines" and rushing to pay the at the "mugs discount" rate.

You will be fighting this properly.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 14, 2024, 12:13:16 pm
Hi,I've done a bit of digging and have found quite a few reviews from people who have experienced the same issues I faced in my original post.

The car park is Walsall Waterfront car park and attached links here:

https://en.parkopedia.co.uk/parking/carpark/walsall_waterfront_leisure/ws2/walsall/?arriving=202409141200&leaving=202409141400#google_vignette


https://g.co/kgs/U5pbUBN

(Hopefully they work)

I'm unsure if any of this can be used to form part of a defence at this moment, but I found it quite interesting.

I'm happy to follow the guidance that you set out.

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 13, 2024, 06:33:47 pm
Good. I will come up with a short defence where you only need to add your name, the claimants name, the claim number and then sign by typing your name and date. It will also include a draft order for the judge to make on the claimant.

It will be prepared over the weekend.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 13, 2024, 06:24:46 pm
Yeah I can see it now and have downloaded a PDF copy just in case.
Thank you
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Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 13, 2024, 05:57:23 pm
If you completed the AoS using MCOL, then it will show in your MCOL history in a few days. When you submitted it, what did the system tell you? Did you use the option to print or save a copy of your AoS as a PDF?

Did you follow the instructions as per the PDF?

(https://i.imgur.com/8OOJFI3.jpeg)
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 13, 2024, 05:31:01 pm
Hi, just a quick follow up on the completed AOS.
Was I supposed to receive any confirmation that the AOS has been completed? And do I need to do anything else now apart from forming a defence?

Thank you
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 12, 2024, 04:55:52 pm
Hi, thanks for helping out. Followed the instructions in the information pack and have now completed my AOS. Any idea what the next step are?
Once again, any help is greatly appreciated.
THANKS!!
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 11, 2024, 07:27:56 pm
That's better. With an issue date of 5th September, you have until Tuesday 24th September to submit your Acknowledgement of Service (AoS). To submit your AoS, follow the information in the PDF in this link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

There is nothing to be gained by delaying the AoS. Once your AoS has been submitted, you will then have until 4pm on Tuesday 8th October to submit your defence.

Your defence will be submitted as a pdf attachment to an email. Do not use the MCOL website to file your defence.

Let us know when you've submitted your AoS and we will give you a template for the defence.

For information, if you follow the advice, there is a 99% chance that this will eventually be discontinued before any hearing ever takes place.
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 11, 2024, 07:09:26 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/ijWGbrG.jpeg)
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 11, 2024, 07:05:55 pm
Nothing visible. Please read this thread for advice on how to post images:

READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/)
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 11, 2024, 07:00:03 pm
Image attached but have no idea if it's attached as intended.
Thanks

(https://imgur.com/a/3HNUMa4)
Title: Re: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: b789 on September 11, 2024, 06:34:36 pm
Please post a redacted copy of the Claim form. We need to see the "issue date", the claimant and solicitor (DCB Legal?) and the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Just redact the claim number, your personal details, the VRM of the vehicle, the PCN number (if it's on there) and the MCOL password.

If you're unsure how to post images, please have a read of the "Read this first" thread.

Once you've shown us the claim form and we know the issue date we can give you the advice you need for the next steps.
Title: Euro Car Parks- DCB Legal- Help/advise needed
Post by: Abu246 on September 11, 2024, 06:27:47 pm
Hi there,
I underpaid my parking at a local ECP cark park in December 2021. I believe the machine was faulty (as I could not increase the duration of stay). They were also placed in a poorly lit area (it was 9PM in December) so I could barely see what I was pressing.

Anyway, since then I have received numerous threatening letters from several debt collectors and since March 2024, DCB Legal.
I have taken no action and ignored all letters so far. I received a letter of claim in Aug 2024 from them and still decided to ignore.
The amount that has been demanded has risen from £100-£170-£283.

A few days ago I received a CCJ claim form from a county court in Northampton. This letter is looking more 'serious' and have read online that I should NOT ignore this letter.

What would you guys recommend in this scenario?

Thank you for any help/advice!!