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General discussion => The Flame Pit => Topic started by: roythebus on September 11, 2024, 04:26:17 pm
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OK thanks. :)
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I wonder how that works with UK-registered car going to an EU country? Does the UK green card cover the car for any driver?
No.
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I wonder how that works with UK-registered car going to an EU country? Does the UK green card cover the car for any driver?
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Correct. The vehicle is covered and not the driver. Anyone can drive so long as they are not banned.
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track...
Roy, I think you're confusing us with Google.
I'm going google-eyed looking at this computer.. :)
Many thanks to John Glacier for clarifying that. Is that insurance similar to those we see on German vehicles? In Germany the vehicle is insured, not the driver!
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Just want to clear a few matters up. I live in Bulgaria from time to time and have a car there.
Firstly, there is no such thing as an insurance certificate that we would be used to. All there is is an insurance coupon with the expiry date punched out. The only information on it is the VRM and policy number. This card however is only valid in Bulgaria and is in the Bulgarian language only. For use abroad a green card is necessary and is issued free of charge every year with your insurance.I can't understand why the drivers did not produce their green card unless they were trying to avoid liability.
Also Bulgarian driving licences have the name of the town/village where the holder is. In a big town/city this would be useless in tracking someone down but in a small village that would be enough to find someone. You should really be asking them for their identity card as that contains their full address.
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I don't suppose the second Bulgarian was the first one's Great Uncle by any chance?
Cholet not!
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I don't suppose the second Bulgarian was the first one's Great Uncle by any chance?
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But you won't get the green card details Roy, because they don't need one.
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As far as my partner is aware the english speaker gave the details of the alleged offending driver.
It seems to me the insurance company don't think it's owrth chasing. the damage was the rear offside wheel arch section was scratched and knocked off, it's plastic and held on with plastic clips. A bag of clips was about a tenner and an aerosol can of Discovery black to match the OE spec is about £60. Insurance excess is £300. Wing section maybe £65. Says it all really.
Put it down to experience, make sure next time it happens to get the Green Card details. That's the problem with living almost next to the M20 and the brexit lorry park AKA Sevington Inland Border Facility.
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
There were two Bulgarian vans and two bulgarian drivers? Whose details did your partner get?
I realise we're going even farther off-topic, but ...
The English-speaking Bulgar would have to have been spectacularly stupid to give his own details. But not impossible.
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
There were two Bulgarian vans and two bulgarian drivers? Whose details did your partner get?
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track...
Roy, I think you're confusing us with Google.
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
Yes.
https://www.gov.uk/eu-eea#:~:text=Austria%2C%20Belgium%2C%20Bulgaria%2C%20Croatia,%2C%20Slovenia%2C%20Spain%20and%20Sweden.
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Is Bulgaria in the EU/EEA? I've lost track... The driver of the other Bulgarian van who spoke good english dealt with my partner, he was following the errant driver. The paperwork he gave my partner was all in Bugarian script!
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Insurance Green card not required for someone from an EU country to drive in the UK AFAIK.
Edit
The UK is part of the Green Card Free Circulation Area (GCFCA), which comprises all 30 European Economic Area (EEA) countries as well as Andorra, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Montenegro, Serbia and Switzerland. UK-based drivers do not need to carry green cards for their vehicles when travelling to these countries.
This obviously works both ways.
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Sounds like just an excuse to me. A few years ago a Spanish lorry (with Bulgarian driver) sideswiped me - all his fault. The only details I got were a copy of his driving licence* and what looked like a normal insurance certificate. Insurance company handled it all. It took an age, but they have whole departments to deal with claims against foreign insurance policies.
*A Bulgarian driving license doesn't show an address, so things slowed down somewhat because I had no address for the driver.
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AIUI they're optional.
Anyway, your partner needs to ask her insurer what clause in their Ts and Cs tells her to get the green card details. I've never seen one.
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My partner was driving her car round a roundabout at junction 11 on the M20 in Kent a month or so ago and was side-swiped by a foreign registered van. It was the other driver's fault and details were exchanged. All the details from the other driver were in Bulgarian. She has forwarded the details to her insurers who are now apparently refusing to deal with the matter as she wasn't given any Green Card details and wasn't aware that any were required. she'd assumed all the details were on the form given to her by the Bulgarian driver.
Luckily the damage wasn't serious, rear wing panel badly scraped and fell off. I bought a bag of fixings and clipped it back on.
So what is the situation regarding Green Cards in the UK with foreign drivers? My own insurance says I don't need one when abroad.