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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: thegame99 on August 25, 2024, 04:49:54 pm

Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on October 28, 2025, 06:42:02 pm
Respond to the LoC with the following to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:


Done as instructed. Thank you
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: b789 on October 27, 2025, 06:18:32 pm
Respond to the LoC with the following to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself:

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Subject: Response to your Letter of Claim Ref: [reference number]

Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of the evidence your client places reliance upon, putting it in clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a supposed firm of solicitors, one would expect you to comply with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You may wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), require the exchange of sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter refers to a “contract” yet encloses none. That omission undermines the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It is not possible to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue while you decline to furnish the very document you purport to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with para 3.1(a), I shall seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required. Accordingly, please provide:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) and any notice chain relied upon to assert PoFA 2012 liability.

2. A copy of the contract you allege exists between your client and the driver, being an actual photograph of the sign(s) in place on the material date (not a stock image), together with a site plan showing the sign locations.

3. The precise wording of the clause(s) allegedly breached.

4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner evidencing standing/authority to enforce and to litigate.

5. A breakdown of the sums claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” add-on includes VAT.


I am entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction, and I require it to meet my own obligation under paragraph 6(b).

If you fail to provide the above, I will treat that as non-compliance with the PAPDC and Pre-Action Conduct and will raise a formal complaint to the SRA regarding your conduct. I reserve the right to place this correspondence before the Court and to seek appropriate sanctions and costs (including, where appropriate, a stay and/or other case management orders).

Until your client complies and provides the requested material, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim or to consider my position. It would be premature and a waste of costs and court time to issue proceedings. Should you do so, I will seek immediate case management relief pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order compelling provision of the above.

Please note, I will not engage with any web portal; I will only respond by email or post.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on October 27, 2025, 10:01:49 am
So show it if you want advice. Which firm issued it and does it comply with the PAPDC?


Please show us.

Pls see below

https://ibb.co/jZbYG7GN

Thank you
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: DWMB2 on October 27, 2025, 09:12:45 am
Please show us.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on October 27, 2025, 07:39:22 am
File and ignore. It's a Letter of Claim from said solicitors that you need to look out for.
This advice has not changed.

Hello. Received LOC. Please advise what to do next
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: b789 on October 24, 2025, 08:06:34 pm
So show it if you want advice. Which firm issued it and does it comply with the PAPDC?
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on October 24, 2025, 08:04:02 pm
File and ignore. It's a Letter of Claim from said solicitors that you need to look out for.

Hello,

Just received a letter of claim. Please advise what to do next. Thank you
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on November 26, 2024, 06:47:03 pm
Thank you
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: DWMB2 on November 26, 2024, 03:35:21 pm
File and ignore. It's a Letter of Claim from said solicitors that you need to look out for.
This advice has not changed.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on November 26, 2024, 03:13:41 pm
Hello all,
Just received another letter demanding payment within 7 days to TNC Collections.

"Prior to the determination at the Supreme Court in the case of Parking Eye vs Beavis in 2015, there was a general misunderstanding that parking charges were not recoverable, however, Judges in this case concluded that as long as the charges were brought to the attention of the motorist and that the charges were not unreasonable, the charges were recoverable in civil law"

In view of this we require that the above amount is fully paid within the next 7 days

If it is not paid within that time legal proceedings could be commenced against you without further notice. Such claim will include an increase in the amount being claimed as interest, court fees and legal costs will be added."


Please advise.
Thank you
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on September 09, 2024, 10:29:48 am
Thank you both for the advise.
Funny they gave 7 days to pay and when I got the letter, it was already past 7 days!!!
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: b789 on September 09, 2024, 10:23:33 am
Only the parking company, Ezee Park can “instruct” solicitors to initiate “legal action”. TNC are simply debt collectors who have no skin in the game and are trying to scare you into paying out of ignorance.

If/when EzeePark want to litigate, they will instruct a firm of roboclaim solicitors to send you a Letter of Claim (LoC) which will give you 30 days to pay or respond. Anything that gives you less than 30 days to pay is not and cannot be an LoC.

THC are not solicitors.

As advised above, file and ignore.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: DWMB2 on September 09, 2024, 09:59:04 am
File and ignore. It's a Letter of Claim from said solicitors that you need to look out for.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on September 09, 2024, 08:56:21 am
Hello all,

please see new letter "intention to instruct solicitors to commence legal action"

https://ibb.co/stHg8Ts

Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: DWMB2 on August 26, 2024, 03:26:35 pm
What's more likely is that the landlord has signed a rubbish contract that prevents them from getting the parking company to cancel charges.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on August 25, 2024, 09:21:53 pm
Gotcha. I spoke to the pub owner and she's like I can't do anything. Probably taking a share lool. Thanks for the advise. I'll get back if I get another letter.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: b789 on August 25, 2024, 09:17:52 pm
Have you gone back to the pub and asked the landlord why their patrons are being invoiced by a third party for £100 a pop? Always try the landowner first.

Otherwise, as already advised, you do not communicate with vermin debt collectors who have no power to do anything.

If/when you ever get a Letter of Claim (LoC) coke back and tell us. It may never happen. The debt collectors are simply hoping that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and will pay up out of ignorance. Don’t pay.
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on August 25, 2024, 06:57:18 pm
It’s a begging letter from professional writers of begging letters! In fact you don’t reply to bottom feeders at all.

More importantly why didn’t you get the original notices? Are you the registered keeper? Is the V5c address correct (don’t assume, CHECK)?

Please modify your post inline with the instructions not to give away driver ID in this post.
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

Hi. No idea why I didnt get the original notice. Yes im the registered keeper, V5c address is correct and i was the driver.
what driver id are you referring to pls
Title: Re: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: The Rookie on August 25, 2024, 06:31:03 pm
It’s a begging letter from professional writers of begging letters! In fact you don’t reply to bottom feeders at all.

More importantly why didn’t you get the original notices? Are you the registered keeper? Is the V5c address correct (don’t assume, CHECK)?

Please modify your post inline with the instructions not to give away driver ID in this post.
https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/
Title: TNC Collections PCN x2, parked without permission from landowner, Royal Oak pub, south ockendon
Post by: thegame99 on August 25, 2024, 04:49:54 pm
Hello all,
Received not 1 but 2 PCNs from a private company asking for £170 each without any reminders. Both PCNs have same date and time stamp but different reference numbers.

This was in a pub, no lights in parking so even if there were any signs, I wouldn't have seen them. Neither did the bartender say anything.

Not my first time going to the pub either. It must be something new that they've started.

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