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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: ft_sjo on August 23, 2024, 04:07:44 pm

Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: DWMB2 on September 18, 2024, 08:33:02 pm
Winner winner, thanks for the update.

The charge may well have been issued correctly (on the face of it, the driver did breach the terms and conditions), but that doesn't mean they can recover the charge from the keeper.
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on September 18, 2024, 06:57:04 pm
Et voila.. a somewhat confusing letter, page 1 says it was issued correctly, then page they play the 'we'll let you off this one time' spiel..

Thank you to those that helped, greatly appreciated. The old boy is too!


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Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: b789 on September 12, 2024, 05:56:24 pm
They have until 20th September before their required 28 day deadline to respond is up.
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on September 12, 2024, 05:55:11 pm
Are you checking spam regularly?

Yep..
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: DWMB2 on September 12, 2024, 05:51:47 pm
Are you checking spam regularly?
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on September 12, 2024, 05:38:17 pm
No response yet to the appeal.
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: DWMB2 on August 23, 2024, 05:24:49 pm
If you can, add that email address referenced in the response to your safe senders/contacts list, to reduce the chances of it landing in spam.
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on August 23, 2024, 05:00:07 pm
Yes, Registered Keeper is the correct one to select. What you don't want to select is anything that says who was driving.

@DWMB2 Many thanks for your lightning response.
I can't promise I'll always be that quick, I was looking at another thread just as you posted  ;D

Great, thanks, appeal submitted as advised with the follow auto-response from Brittania. I'll be sure to check my 'dunk' folder  ;D :

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Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: DWMB2 on August 23, 2024, 04:48:58 pm
Yes, Registered Keeper is the correct one to select. What you don't want to select is anything that says who was driving.

@DWMB2 Many thanks for your lightning response.
I can't promise I'll always be that quick, I was looking at another thread just as you posted  ;D
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on August 23, 2024, 04:48:07 pm
@DWMB2 Many thanks for your lightning response. The appeal form does have a drop-down, is it OK to select registered keeper?
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: DWMB2 on August 23, 2024, 04:28:45 pm
Our usual recommendation for 'Plan A' is to ask the landholder, Waitrose in this case, to intervene and cancel. However, if he's struggling to lay his hands on a receipt to support an approach to them, the good news is that Britannia have failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act, and are therefore unable to hold your father liable as the keeper. You could therefore appeal along the lines of the below:

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

If appealing online, be careful there are no drop down/tick boxes that cause you to identify who was driving, and keep a close eye on your spam folder for their response. If they do not respond within 35 days, chase them. The appeal must come from whoever the notice is addressed to, so if your father is the registered keeper and you're submitting on his behalf, enter his details as the keeper.
Title: Re: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on August 23, 2024, 04:12:13 pm
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Title: Britannia Parking / Waitrose - PCN
Post by: ft_sjo on August 23, 2024, 04:07:44 pm
Hi all,

First post here - didn't realise pepipoo was no more but found the link to here via reddit.

My 82yr old Father overstayed his welcome at a Brittania-managed car park (Waitrose). It's been a long time since I last dealt with a PCN so curious if anything has changed in the past few years, but crucially do you have recommendations on how to get this PCN cancelled.

Photos attached. I am not sure if he has a proof of purchase over £10 to qualify for parking. Many thanks for your advice.

Streetmap link: https://maps.app.goo.gl/21hu81SQigLYX1DEA (https://maps.app.goo.gl/21hu81SQigLYX1DEA)