please don't wear Ursula's Anderss's bikini :-\@cp8759 Thanks for the other case sent to me today. :)
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Tomorrow is the hearing : I will do my best and incorporate the collegiate views. ;) Now I wear the T shirt, I may well be recognised. Literally, not metaphorically. Plus Lotus Esprit necklace in The Spy Who Loved Me.
please don't wear Ursula's Anderss's bikini :-\@cp8759 Thanks for the other case sent to me today. :)
2240333189.
Tomorrow is the hearing : I will do my best and incorporate the collegiate views. ;) Now I wear the T shirt, I may well be recognised. Literally, not metaphorically. Plus Lotus Esprit necklace in The Spy Who Loved Me.
@cp8759 Thanks for the other case sent to me today. :)
Penalty Charge Notice: AF98910562Thanks! :)
Vehicle registration: RX64VTG
Contravention date: Saturday, 20 Jul 2024 22:32
Contravention: Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited
Street: ILFORD LANE
Location:
Status: Representation Rejected
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Penalty Charge Notice: AF98910278
Vehicle registration: RX64VTG
Contravention date: Saturday, 20 Jul 2024 23:26
Contravention: Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited
Street: ILFORD LANE
Location:
Status: Representation Rejected
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members are busy helping people and can't be expected to carry out checks on every new posters comments.Hi, in future please check a users profile before making such comments. :)Hi, any update on your appeal? I just got one on Ilford Lane!Please start your own thread. :)
That's assuming you want advice. Experience here is that almost all cases of box junctions we need to see the individual videos, so best to start a thread. Keep an eye on this case, of course.Hi, any update on your appeal? I just got one on Ilford Lane!Please start your own thread. :)
That's assuming you want advice. Experience here is that almost all cases of box junctions we need to see the individual videos, so best to start a thread. Keep an eye on this case, of course.Hi, any update on your appeal? I just got one on Ilford Lane!Please start your own thread. :)
Hi, any update on your appeal? I just got one on Ilford Lane!Please start your own thread. :)
It would strengthen this argument if we knew how many there are along the length of Ilford Lane.
It would strengthen this argument if we knew how many there are along the length of Ilford Lane. I normally look at satellite view on Google maps but I think these have been painted on since it was last updated.After these two PCNs I feel even scared to step on that damn road :'( will see if I can pop down one eve after work.
From other Redbridge cases I've seen on here, they seem to have been busy recently adding ybjs all over the place, even to junctions with minor side roads.
I've had a look at both videos. Both show a pretty textbook contravention.I see your point. They have only specified the road as “Ilford Lane” that road is a long stretch of road with several YBJs I believe. Thanks
However, I believe we've had some success in the past with Redbridge YBJ PCNs as they always just state the location as a singular street name when in reality it is at the junction of two roads. Both PCNs are in respect of different box junctions along Ilford Lane, but this road is about 1 mile long and clearly has more than box junction along it (I say clearly as you have been caught in two different ones - they must be newish as they don't feature on Googlemaps yet so I cannot say specifically how many there are).
A PCN is required by law to state the grounds on which the authority believe a penalty charge is payable. If the location is unclear, there's a reasonable case to be made the PCNs cannot be enforced.
In respect of the first one, the time of contravention is also slightly wrong. It says 2232 when you entered the box (and stopped) at 2231.
Link works!Sorry All, can anyone help with me uploading the PCN. It keeps throwing errors. I can email the pdf to someone. ThanksNormally you have to use a hosting site as per our instructions for posting that we gave for you to read.
Sorry All, can anyone help with me uploading the PCN. It keeps throwing errors. I can email the pdf to someone. ThanksNormally you have to use a hosting site as per our instructions for posting that we gave for you to read.
You'll need to use a third party site. If it's a PDF, Dropbox and Google Drive are both decent options.Not sure why the link is not working :-[
If its images, Imgur is free and doesn't require sign up.
With YBJs, you've got to "look before you leap", and never motor-on gung-ho fashion when you see a YBJ ahead. If you do get caught in the box with no way out of it, then slow right down and tootle across very slowly, hoping the traffic will move on. If it does you're OK.YBJs are not signed at all, one must just look out for the road markings. Probably all YBJs in London are CCTV enforced, because it is such a huge earner for councils.100%!
Not only that, that road is narrow and when there is start stop traffic it’s hard to see further up. If that makes sense?
YBJs are not signed at all, one must just look out for the road markings. Probably all YBJs in London are CCTV enforced, because it is such a huge earner for councils.100%!
Having viewed both videos, it seems clear to me that you seem to know absolutely nothing at all on what you must do when approaching a yellow box junction. The video for the second PCN shows your car entering the box despite there being a stationary vehicle on the other side of the box thus meaning you have no exit from the box at all, and you had to stop in the box. This is a classic example of a yellow box contravention. It is almost the same with the first video.Thanks for your response. Tbh the traffic was mad that day and I was not at all aware of the junction boxes. You are probably right my knowledge on these boxes are very limited.
So am I right ?