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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Phboi on July 31, 2024, 04:56:53 pm

Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: stamfordman on August 01, 2024, 12:51:12 pm: Council pics of signage and locations - there are no doubt restriction signs on both sides of the road on both approaches. Looks to me both drivers were speeding and oblivious to warnings and signs - it was a school safety zone before but that wasn't working so they've made a lot of roads outside schools into time-controlled restrictions.

(https://i.imgur.com/xhvQATb.png)
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: John U.K. on August 01, 2024, 11:41:57 am: Quote
Signage: https://imgur.com/a/ckemiBt

Sadly this sign could be anywhere :(

By 'in context' I meant could you get a photo of the sign in it surroundings, as you've claimed it was invisible.
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Hippocrates on August 01, 2024, 11:34:46 am: Arguments about how they deal with the representations as well as the signage. Please post up a draft regarding the signage and number of PCNs. I expect you did not realise you had travelled down this route until you received the first PCN. Was there any warning signage? Can you make a video of the route showing the height of the sign as the driver would see?
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Phboi on August 01, 2024, 10:30:42 am: What do you mean by technical appeal?
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Hippocrates on July 31, 2024, 09:28:28 pm: This will be a technical appeal. I will explain later as they tend to mess up the process when an appeal is registered. Totally disproportionate number of PCNs.
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: stamfordman on July 31, 2024, 06:53:00 pm: School street zone - sign looks clear.

(https://i.imgur.com/DF5QEwb.mp4)
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Phboi on July 31, 2024, 06:20:59 pm: Apologies,

New Letter : https://imgur.com/a/BjT67AU

Signage: https://imgur.com/a/ckemiBt

Google Maps link location:

https://www.google.com/maps/@51.4374134,-0.0016881,3a,75y,176.29h,79.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s8V98z7Bah1H6XAsOQsRDcA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?coh=205409&entry=ttu
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: John U.K. on July 31, 2024, 05:17:05 pm: Quote
Do i have any chance of an appeal based on the fact that it is impossible to see this sign when driving?
We need to a see a picture of this sign and its context.

Please post a GSV link to the location, even though I suspect it'll be out of date.
Please also re-instate reg.mark and PCN number.
Title: Re: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Phboi on July 31, 2024, 04:58:27 pm: Link to PCN:

https://imgur.com/a/ZnT8tCv
Title: PCN from Lewisham Council
Post by: Phboi on July 31, 2024, 04:56:53 pm: I have received 5 PCN from Lewisham for failing to comply with with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian only zone.

This is a new sign that the council has installed. I have always driven on this road and never got a ticket.

Do i have any chance of an appeal based on the fact that it is impossible to see this sign when driving?